Sometimes 1 Percent is Enough. If, That Is, You're Willing to Stand Up.

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Hey, one last shout out here for the Occupy Dallas people who camped at City Hall. I know you took a lot of grief from people who didn't understand why you were doing what you were doing, including me a little bit at one point. I hope you took note of the president's speech yesterday in Kansas.

He talked about Republicans who think the best answer to the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression is to wage class warfare on the middle class:
"I am here to say they are wrong," President Obama told the crowd. "I'm here in Kansas to reaffirm my deep conviction that we're greater together than we are on our own.

"I believe that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, when everyone does their fair share, when everyone plays by the same rules. These aren't Democratic values or Republican values. These aren't 1 percent values or 99 percent values. They're American values. And we have to reclaim them."
You heard your name in there, right, Occupiers? The 99 and 1 percent theme is yours, and it looks as if it may become the single most important one in the upcoming elections.
And how did you put it there? Did you raise $500 million and form a Super Pac? Did you hire a high-dollar ad agency to do lying mind-fuck ads about the president the way Mitt Romney did?

No, man. You marched and you camped. You got out there in your glorious funkiness, with your guitars and your tents. You did it with the magic power of standing up.

It's on the agenda now, at the top of the agenda, and you did it. You forced history not merely to take note of you but to turn a corner. You out-powered the money.

Hey, we don't know the end of this story. Never count the money out. Money doesn't get tired, and money doesn't give up. But you didn't give up, either, until you got rousted.
Anyway, this is nothing but an expression of awe and respect.

Hey, did you see the story in the Times today about the protestors in Nice, France, calling for a "Robin Hood tax" -- a 1 percent on stock transactions to fund safety-net programs? Something to think about.

Like you need me to tell you what to think about. No, listen, here on out, you don't follow me. I follow you.

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WW
WW

EFFECTS OF : "Gross private domestic investment" 1.5% of 1.8% !!!!!_________________________________________________________

GDP details ( 2011 July-through-September quarter )

The downward revision to gross domestic product in the third quarter was largely due to:weaker consumer spending..

OFFSETTING "upward revisions" of BUSINESS INVESTMENT. .Upward revisions :

Business investments contributed 1.5 percentage points to growth. ( out of the 1.8% TOTAL !! )

.Business fixed investments increased at a 15.7% annual pace, revised up from 14.8% earlier.Investments in equipment and software rose 16.2%,while investments in structures increased14.4%..Note: Article may be pay-walled..." Third-quarter GDP growth cut to 1.8% from 2.0% "

Lesser health-care spending than previously thought behind revision

By Greg Robb, MarketWatch

Dec. 22, 2011, 9:03 a.m. ES.http://www.marketwatch.com/sto....

WW
WW

."All over the world, the protesters of 2011 share a belief that their countries' political systems and economies have grown dysfunctional and corrupt — sham democracies rigged to favor the rich and powerful and prevent significant change."

.Person Of The Year - 2011 : " THE PROTESTER"Time Magazine.http://www.time.com/time/speci....

WW
WW

FILE NOT FOUND !!!!!!!

Looks like the link " times out" on my previous post concerning :

"Spending Habits of TOP 10 % "(presented by the IRS ) "

So here it is in a different format...http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/ar....( Drill down on " All Top Wealthholders by Size of Net Worth " )

You can convert it to PDF  with this utility.http://www.convertfiles.com/.

WW
WW

The data in my previous post was from 2004.."Gross private domestic investment" has fallen off sharply since then..As you can see in the link below..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F....My idea would be that, instead of raising the taxes on the rich,that they invest in our country..

INVESTMENT (possible return)  vs. TAXATION ( no return  )

I think Obama's "job idea" relies on taxing the rich to accomplish it ..thus failing,  due to no return..

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

Has Occupy even decided what their cohesive message and goal is yet?

"We want jobs! We want money! Yeah!"

Okay.

They're like a 6 year old given $10 in a candy store allowed to pick out whatever they want. It all sounds great, but he/she can't make up their mind on what to actually get because they're so overwhelmed by it all.

I'm all for corporate tax reform to force the ExxonMobils of the US to pay their fair share of income taxes, but is that even what Occupy is after?

I sure as shit don't know if it is. That's their problem. And I'm right in their wheelhouse of someone who should be on board with them.

Phelps
Phelps

Overall a successful, peaceful protest. Violence and destruction of property was kept to a minimum. How exactly is that true when pretty much every camp had some sort of theft spree and sexual assault, while the Tea Party has been going for three years with the only assault being one of its attendees (not even a member, just a vendor) being attacked by SEIU goons?

Albert
Albert

"It's on the agenda now, at the top of the agenda, and you did it. You forced history not merely to take note of you but to turn a corner. You out-powered the money."

If you form a mob and start taking over public and private spaces, hold marches, shut down ports and attack private establishments at the behest of union activists, you are going to get news coverage.

That is the Great Success of the anti-capitalist movement, they got news coverage! Now people are talking about #Occupy!.

And the more they got, the lower their polled approval dropped. America may be full of people with Marxist ideology, but it is a small percentage.

Using Obama's speech as an example of the tail wagging the dog is a ludicrous - he's been giving the same class-war speech for two years, and the unions who hold great power over the white house followed through with organized action.

The movement was a joke and a lie. And it's gone, except for the occupation of foreclosed homes (Marxists are not into property rights), shipping port shutdowns (Marxists do not like the mechanics of capitalism), and leftists congratulating leftists for... doing something.

The rest of us stopped paying attention months ago.

Albert
Albert

"Overall a successful, peaceful protest. Violence and destruction of property was kept to a minimum."http://bigjournalism.com/jjmno...

"One thing interesting about the Occupy movement is the lack of a formal structure or leader at the local or national level."

There are videos of union leaders explaining the exact strategy employed by the anti-capitalist movement. #Occupy was no surprise at all to those who had ben watching.

"Their protests struck a cord beyond the US. It appears to have spread to Europe."

Socialists and anti-capitalists were rioting in Europe well before #Occupy.

"This lack of structure also makes it difficult to be co-opted."

LOL, they were co-opted before the first tent was pitched - they just don't know it.

Albert
Albert

You have it backwards. the anti-capitalist movement was inspired by Obama and his ever-present strawmen, false choices and lies.

At least we can call him a Socialist now, great speech.

Bmarvel
Bmarvel

"Their protests struck a cord beyond the US. It appears to have spread to Europe."That's not how I read it. It seems pretty clear that the issues that set off the Occupy movement did not "spread" from the United States but rather arose world-wide almost simultaneously. This is one of those sea-change moments in history -- in this case accelerated by the new media.  We witnessed it in the 1960s -- I did, at least; it started in the 1950s -- and it has happened before whenever conditions are right. One of the triggers is that ordinary people feel put-upon and powerless. The system, whatever it is, seems remote, out of reach, unresponsive, corrupt. As always, there are those who are the last to catch on. (You can read some of their comments here.) Will Occupy play a big part as this unrolls? It's much too early to tell. I'm pessimistic.  But it's pretty clear that the forces that are drawing this thing forward are not going to go away anytime soon, regardless of who wins the next couple of elections. This is systemic, too deep for an election or two to fix.There's a peculiar irony in the fact that the Tea Party is another response to the same situation. Occupy and the Tea Party may not look alike and they certainly don't agree on what's wrong or how to fix it, but they're brothers and sisters under the skin.        

Mike3647
Mike3647

What a nice fucking dreamworld you must live in.  In my dreamworld people fend for themselves and don't whine about being owed stuff.

J. Erik Jonsson
J. Erik Jonsson

JS, you're an invaluable resource on local corruption ... er, politics.  However you'd describe your beat.  You're awesome at it.  But, man, are you ever out of your depth on national politics and economic issues.  Occupy is going to be a trivia bowl answer inside of 5 years.  Frankly, the Mummia folks have been more effective.

camarillobrillo
camarillobrillo

As I gazed across the faces in the crowd,I spotted nurses,teachers,bakers walking proud,Speaking of ideas which they all hold dear,Gives me hope in the future years,That as a Nation we aren't quite done yet,Soldiers in the trenches fighting for a set,A set of values benefitting all,I tip my hat to each and everyone,Who had the nerve who had the gall!

Bmarvel
Bmarvel

I kind of like it that they are hibernating until next spring, catching their breath, as suggested by co-founder Kalle Lasn. Time to take stock of how far they've come and figure out where the movement goes next.  The camp-outs have run their course, but the message has not even begun to sink in. (See james' comment, above.) Much to do. But i disagree that the barrier in the road is big money. As always, the real threat will come from within. It's built into all such movements: What cops and court orders, dogs and mace can't accomplish, loss of focus and inertia can. The past is littered with failed political movements that have split and split again, frittering away their energy, or have been hijacked by some action or another. Only a few have stayed the course. 

claytonauger
claytonauger

Amen.

"They always saytime changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself"

Andy Warhol

Phelps
Phelps

I know you took a lot of grief from people who didn't understand why you were doing what you were doing, including me a little bit at one point. 

They took a lot of grief from themselves?

And Jim -- you are completely off your rocker.  You missed the point in a huge, Maureen Dowd level way.  You omitted the paragraph before the one you quoted -- where Obama engaged in his own class warfare:

Now, in the midst of this debate, there are some who seem to be suffering from a kind of collective amnesia.  After all that’s happened, after the worst economic crisis, the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, they want to return to the same practices that got us into this mess.  In fact, they want to go back to the same policies that stacked the deck against middle-class Americans for way too many years.  And their philosophy is simple:  We are better off when everybody is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules.

RTGolden
RTGolden

Perhaps this esteemed, vaunted bastion of progressive American journalistic excellence could give a shout out to the real 1% of this country deserving a shout out.  Less than 1% of the current US population has served or is serving in the military during the recent conflicts.  These are the 1% who are on call 24/7, to pick up and leave their families, their homes, their lives and go off to defend whatever public opinion, moneyed interest or plain, simple bloodlust happens to be fashionable at the time.  And when the pressing need is replaced in the public's eye by the release of the next Zelda incarnation or a band of people protesting corporate malfeasance while tweeting and skyping over the products of those corporations, those service men and women are still over there, living and fighting and dying.  For many of them, they're doing this on a salary that is so low they qualify for many poverty assistance programs, though they are too humble to take them.Even Occupy Dallas, to their credit, stood aside and let the Veteran's have their day in Dallas.  I didn't agree with nor understand a lot of what OD was trying to do, but I will remember their respect for those who sacrifice so much for us.

Bmarvel
Bmarvel

 Anyone who doubts that this is a worldwide phenomenon just isn't paying attention.

Albert
Albert

Here is a comprehensive list of OWS incidents nationally, criminal and otherwise. There are currently over 400 entries.

It is from a Brietbart website, so it will not be accepted as factual by our friends on the left - but all information is supported.

http://bigjournalism.com/jjmno...

VeniVidiDejaVu
VeniVidiDejaVu

Your ONLY exposure to Marxism is Groucho, otherwise you would understand that there is nothing Marxist about the USA. There is SOME socialism in ALL democracies, including Republican and Democrat stances, or they would not work. You are uneducated and choose to lip-sync to Limbaugh-Palin-Bachmann rap, without any knowledge whatever of the claptrap you spout. At least you forgot to say the key wingnut words "teleprompter", "agenda", and "birth certificate", so I guess you get SOME credit even it it is just for forgetfulness.

Finally, I fully support your hatred of unions. I am sure that you will want to eschew all of your association with union inspired privilege, including giving up paid holidays, 5 day work weeks, eight hour work days, benefits, and the rest. Show you are mad as hell at unions and give those things up!!

Phelps
Phelps

1. Get news coverage2. ???3. Profit!

camarillobrillo
camarillobrillo

Why must you keep placing your beloved mentor, Karl Marx, into every discussion? Just admit you love the man and move on. It's not healthy to obsess so much over one person. You Commies crack me up!

camarillobrillo
camarillobrillo

Why do you keep infecting us Americans with your Commie propaganda?

camarillobrillo
camarillobrillo

I don't wanna hear another word come out of your Commie pie-hole!

Plfarmer
Plfarmer

If you would like, I will notify the police and fire departments that you now will fend for yourself.Also, notes can go out to FAA, FDA, and EPA, that if you get sick because of the malfeasance of others, you will not whine. But, it's the f-bomb that really stands out as the best part of your argument.

Bmarvel
Bmarvel

Perhaps, 3647, you can tell the rest of us where the folks in your dream world are finding all those good-paying jobs, the ones that allow them to own homes, support their families, set aside money for their children's college, and live out their old age in dignity and the knowledge that a serious illness isn't going to take it all away. And since they're not whining I guess we can assume they're not of the Tea Party.   

Jim Schutze
Jim Schutze

You must recognize the seamless quality of my wisdom.

Phelps
Phelps

As a gazed across the faces in the campI spotted commies, rapists, hippies hawking hemp,spouting ideology from an empty head,shitting on the memories of millions dead.While they rage, through all the sobstwenty five million do their jobs,going to work and paying taxeswhile ere' of these infants just relaxes.They do their work, collecting their checksand ignore all these true 1% wrecks.

Bill Lumbergh
Bill Lumbergh

A political party counts as a class now? I don't think attacking Republicans for their policy counts as class warfare. Otherwise that would make any politician perpetually guilty of class warfare.

claytonauger
claytonauger

My gosh, a larger percentage of Occupy folks nationally WERE veterans. It's the lack of class mixing in the armed forces or some kind of national service everyone is required to participate in that is one more contributing cause to class inequality and the tolerance for it.

Albert
Albert

"Your ONLY exposure to Marxism is Groucho, otherwise you would understand that there is nothing Marxist about the USA."

I have been assured of this many times by Marxists, most of whom do not realize they are Marxists. It sets the tone for the angry lecture.

"There is SOME socialism in ALL democracies..."

That is true. In the US, most Federal dollars are directed at social/entitlement spending.

Even more  in socialized European countries. It's not working out very well, as you may have noticed. They are collapsing as a result.

"Finally, I fully support your hatred of unions."

I do not hate unions. I am against public-employee unions, which are a money-laundering operation for the Democrat party.

I do not agree with union tactics, and #Occupy is a union operation which has been planned for at least two years.

"I am sure that you will want to eschew all of your association with union inspired privilege, including giving up paid holidays, 5 day work weeks, eight hour work days, benefits, and the rest. Show you are mad as hell at unions and give those things up!!"

I have never been in a union, and the benefits you cite have been codified by government or adopted by private enterprise. I have never needed a union. Only a small percentage of American workers are union members, I'm one of the majority.

Do you know who does not support unions? Union members. In the states where mandatory deductions of union dues from paychecks has been stopped, up to ninety percent of union members stop paying dues.

Albert
Albert

That sums it up, thread winner.

Albert
Albert

You're American?

VeniVidiDejaVu
VeniVidiDejaVu

No, he's just a Parry Parrot that has a few meaningless and unsupportable phrases burned into his rote memory. Every night he has his mommy come down to the basement and check his closet to make sure there are no unionists, socialists, Marxists, or Democrats hiding behind his shirts.

Phelps
Phelps

Right, you want to take money in taxes but not give any benefits to the people actually paying them.

Spoken like a true socialist.

Albert
Albert

"Perhaps, 3647, you can tell the rest of us where the folks in your dream world are finding all those good-paying jobs"Government.

Paul Burrough
Paul Burrough

If you can't find a decent work, create it.  I've been self-employed for 7 years, for no reason other than I couldn't find a decent job.  Owned a home for about 6 years now.  Didn't (really) go to college.  All-in-all, i'm a VERY ordinary guy.  At some undisclosed point, i realized that the outcome of my personal affairs would be determined by whether or not I accepted the responsibility that rested squarely (and exclusively) upon my own shoulders.  Why is this concept so complex for some?

Iwearblack
Iwearblack

Seamless, as in not sewn together?

Phelps
Phelps

First he carefully worded his speech to dehumanize his opponents (the continual use of "they") and then specifically claimed that they were opposed to the middle class.

I'm sorry, that's a shot in class warfare.  The Middle Class vs. "Them".  

In addition to all that, to cement it into class warfare, it's not even a fair characterization.  It's a caricature.  You're not going to find a plank in the Republican platform that says "we are better off when everyone is left to fend for themselves."  That's about the same as saying that Democrats' philosophy is simple: They want to tax you at 100% and spend all your money on themselves.

Plfarmer
Plfarmer

What the...You forgot zigost killer and faggot.Read the post-he was the one that didn't want to be part of the community.And why do you think he pays taxes?

Bmarvel
Bmarvel

Paul,How do we define the just society, the equitable political and economic system? Is it the system that forces its citizens to "do whatever it takes," to work three jobs in a Darwinian scramble for the basic necessities?Because we're not talking about iPads and Xboxes and homes in the 'burbs here. We're talking about people who are losing their homes, their livlihood, who are working three jobs, husband and wife, and come home too tired to supervise their childrens' homework, who sometimes do not have a warm bed because they are a month or two behind in their electric bill. I know of such people. Is an efficiency -- ever try to raise two children in an efficiency? -- or a bus pass -- ever try to get to a job in the 'burbs on a bus? -- the best our society can hope for, while the top one percent struggle to find new ways of spending their  accumulating millions?I've had a little experience myself with happiness, and the conditions that make it possible. My Polish grandfather raised a large family on his earnings in a smelter (aided by the occasional boxes of groceries handed out by the union). His sons and daughters became mail carriers, clerks, and a vice president of Douglas Aircraft. And while the vice president did better than his siblings, they all did pretty well because the system worked for them. They called it, naively, the American Dream. The system would not work now, for reasons that are apparent to anyone whose eyes are open, and the dream is fading.If this is okay with you, if you want to be an apologist for the system as it has evolved, or just want to shrug and say "do whatever it takes," then you are part of the problem, not the solution. And those who see their possibilities diminish year by year, when hard-pressed enough, WILL eventually "do what it takes." And what it takes, I'm guessing, will be none to your liking.

Paul Burrough
Paul Burrough

You're right.  Self-employment isn't feasible for many.  But the same ethos which makes one successful whilst terminally self-employed apply in the very same ways to those either in search of work or currently punching a clock: do whatever it takes.  Work 3 menial jobs; day and night - whatever it takes.

No one of us is entitled to an iPad, Xbox, late-model car or house in the 'burbs.  If we work hard, the economy allows for it and it's something we want, well, go for it.  If not, simplify. Be thankful for a warm bed and something to eat.  Anyone...and i mean ANYONE can find enough work to keep the roof of an efficiency over their head and a bus pass in their pocket. I've been on both ends of the spectrum...and I know from experience that happiness can be found in both places.

Bmarvel
Bmarvel

I too am self-employed. But realistically that's not an option for most of the 13.3 million (or whatever figure you care to use) who are currently without jobs and looking. It sounds a little like "We all wash each others' cars and take in each others' laundry" economics. Anyone who has spent any time in the third world has seen it in operation Thousands and thousands of marginal little shops, women doing piece-work, guys pedaling through narrow streets with bundles of firewood on their backs, kids gathering sacks of coal down by the railroad tracks. Is this your vision of the United States? Who does the real work of society, then -- teaching kids, nursing the sick, building roads?

Phelps
Phelps

So the test now is we can take something from someone else as long as they don't "need" it?  How very communist of you.

Brian
Brian

Let's see, the Republicans blocked the President's jobs bill which would be paid for by ending tax cuts for the wealthy.  Who exactly is practicing class warfare?

It's the Republicans that have declared war on the middle class (at the cost of our country's economic health) in order to defend tax cuts for people that don't need them.  Finally the rest of the country is waking up and ready to fight back.

camarillobrillo
camarillobrillo

If you don't love America...then get out! and take your Marxist ideas with ya!

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