Caraway: "In My Opinion, Skyline Won That Game, and All of the Players are Champions."

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This is not the first time Dwaine Caraway has stood up for Skyline High School. Three years ago, back when the Dallas ISD first toyed with tinkering with its magnets, the District Four council member -- and Roosevelt grad -- went to the board of trustees and demanded they keep their hands off Skyline, lest he consider campaigning against the '08 bond program. The trustees backed off.

Now, this: Last night, City Hall forwarded a message from Caraway concerning the outcome of the Skyline-Southlake Carroll Class 5A Division 1 playoff game, decided in large part by the refs' call that Southlake's late-game onside kick had indeed gone 10 yards and not a mere nine. By now you're well aware that Southlake and the DISD filed a formal complaint with the University Interscholastic League Monday night; local news earlier this week, it's national news this morning.

Caraway writes that he was there; he saw the whole thing, the fourth quarter of injustice. "I can confidently say that the level of officiating was absolutely below the standards of what is required for such an important game," he writes. "In the final minutes, there were several blatantly blown calls, which completely changed the outcome of the game." He demands an investigation. He demands you demand an investigation. I demand you jump for high school football's Zapruder film, and for the former mayor's entire missive.

Councilmember Caraway Calls for University Interscholastic League to Investigate Referees Call at the Skyline High School vs. Southlake Carroll Football Game

I, Dwaine R. Caraway, am calling upon the University Interscholastic League (UIL) to investigate referee's calls that cost the Skyline High School football team an opportunity to compete in the state championship game.

Having been present at the game and after carefully reviewing the film of the matchup between Skyline and Southlake Carroll, I can confidently say that the level of officiating was absolutely below the standards of what is required for such an important game. In the final minutes, there were several blatantly blown calls, which completely changed the outcome of the game.

One of those calls occurred with just a few minutes left in the game when Skyline was ahead. Southlake Carroll made an onside kick to try to take the lead kicking the ball from the 40 yard line. The rules say the ball must travel 10 yards. The referee said the ball crossed the plane of the 48 yard line. In this case, I believe, the referee made the wrong call by ruling that Southlake Carroll's player fell on the 49 yard line. In another case, the flag thrown for pass interference was not even close.

These bad calls make me question the motives of the officiating crew. I understand that mistakes happen, but for a group of officials to decide the outcome of that game, rather than allowing the players to do so is completely unacceptable. High School athletics are part of our children's curriculum and the lesson that Skyline learned on Friday was that no matter how hard you work and how well you perform, someone can break the rules and take it all away from you.

I am asking the public to encourage the Director of the UIL to investigate this matter so that a future group of students aren't subjected to what our Skyline students were on Friday. In my opinion, Skyline won that game and all of the players are champions. It is unfortunate that a few bad calls took away their dream. The UIL can restore faith in these young people by doing the right thing which is to review the film of the game and publicly report and explain their findings.


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WOB
WOB

The ball clearly went beyond the 50 yard line (which means the ball went further than the 10 yards required) and then a backward bounce, was grabbed while in the air by a SLC player who then came down on the SLC 49-yard line.  The rule says that the ball has to travel at least 10 yards ... no comment about where the ball finally comes to rest/is downed.  Ref's call was legit.  No bias here ... I don't follow either team and really didn't know who won this game until I saw this clip.

Theprguy
Theprguy

Duane Caraway is not qualified to judge a football game. At best, he's qualified to work as a hamburger bun factory sprinkling caraway seeds on the bread.

Toddle65
Toddle65

Like the goal line, the ball only has to break the plane of the 50 yard line.  It appears to me the SLC player looks to pull the ball from the Skyline side of the 50 as his momentum is carrying him towards SLC's side...perhaps all this controversy does indicate the inconclusiveness of the video.  "After further review, plan stands as ruled on the field..."

Urbandweller2003
Urbandweller2003

There are 43 schools listed as failing in DISD. There was not an uproar from the communities affected. We should be very careful about asking for an investigation............

Armando Santos
Armando Santos

Councilmember Caraway, I was at the game and have seen the available videos/replays. I am confident that it was a good call. You sound like sourgrapes!Armando Santos

Kingtj9230
Kingtj9230

First of I would like to say that lost in this is the missed call when kenny hill was hit from behind. When he was hit the ball came out and he was no where close to throwing the ball yet the teds said that he was. Then a pass interference when a Southlake's reciever feet got tangled with a Skyline db as they were going for the ball. I also want people to stop saying they blew the call because they knew exactly what they were doing.It's no way a ref can be standing on the 50 looking at the play and say that ball went the required ten yards.

Real world city politics
Real world city politics

How long before we find Caraway baby mommas, dog fighting rings, and crack addiction not to mention fraud.  Keep up the rhetoric.  It is only a matter of time before he is uncovered.

40acres
40acres

Southlake has a city tax especially dedicated to training foxes to disrupt state football playoff games in the last 45 seconds. I had respect for Skyline completely going into this game and actually felt pretty good about them seemingly winning the game despite the fact that my own son plays for SLC. All of this sour grape garbage that is being talked just shows how pitiful people can be. The entire world looking at this situation is disgusted by the actions of the Skyline principal. I am just a normal guy who lives in Southlake, pays my taxes, "gives back" at work, and an equal opportunity employer. Now I stand accused of "paying" referees and freaking releasing foxes. Perhaps ignorance is bliss, however I will never know.

Batman22
Batman22

Nobody mentions the missed face mask call on the Skyline kick off on Southlake's Ray Crockett. After he broken away from the flagrant facemask, he then fumble which Skyline recovered. That lead to a Skyline score. Skyline would not have scored if the penalty had been properly called! People it's a damn football game get over it! DISD needs to focus on making sure their kids can read and write!

wooohhhfootball
wooohhhfootball

That letter is seriously the most ignorant thing ever written. The game was not rigged and the refs obviously did not want southlake to win. They didn't decide the outcome...the onside kick was not what determined our win, the last TD was. The skyline defense could have stopped us but failed to do so at a crucial time. THAT is how we WON the game. We worked just as hard and performed just a well as skyline. How about you work on improving your academics and test scores instead of continually bitching about the game.

Tim
Tim

This is the same Dwaine Caraway who gave Michael Vick a key to the city?  Very credible source.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument.  The video replay shows the refs got the call right.  

fred
fred

I hate Skyline and I hate Southlake. But you gotta feel for Skyline here.  And I see how race can be brought up since the Southlake folks pay big bucks to be in a school system that is almost as white as HP.

Rooster
Rooster

All the problems this city has, and this clown is worried about high school football...

Rb2121
Rb2121

The ball traveled ten yards.  Does not matter where he is tackled. 

cp
cp

It's really nice for the kids to know that the administration and the alumni club are going to the mat for them. If that doesn't instill more school pride than a won football game, then I don't know what will. 

wrestling fan
wrestling fan

Boy, you people sure seem angry, but that's the point of this blog, right? Negative, negative, negative.

Why not do a story on the Head wrestling coach who has been at Skyline for 35 years and just surpassed his 500th win.  The character and sportsmanship he has built in that program is second to none. 

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

If your game comes down to an onside kick referee decision, you probably effed up somewhere along the way.

Kevin Kirby
Kevin Kirby

Bring in Michael Vick to rule on the call. You know:

FORTHECHILDREN

phe_75034
phe_75034

You're teaching the kids a fine lesson here, Dwaine. If it doesn't go your way, complain really loudly, vaguely suggest racist motives, and demand investigations. You know, all the stuff that works so well in real life.

Was the right call made? I don't know. I don't really care.

The lesson we should all take from this episode is that sometimes you work your ass off, you compete as hard as you can, but, despite all that, a bad break can keep you from your goal.

That's a pretty good life lesson.

Kevin
Kevin

I was at the game and the call was correct... The ball went past 10 yds and was then tipped backwards to a Southlake player.  This guy is unreal.

Facebook User
Facebook User

More of the same from the left - equality of outcome, not opportunity. You can't win if you can't lose... Sometimes you lose.

Fletch
Fletch

The ball went the full 10 yards.  The SLC player that caught it just happened to be short of the 50-yard line and reached across his body to catch it in mid-air.  It doesn't matter where he landed.

I'm certainly no fan of Southlake and I generally root for anyone they're playing against, but this was the right call.  Skyline doesn't have grounds to contest this call unless the ball happened to inadvertently hit a player before it traveled 10 yards.  I can't tell for sure, but I don't think that happened either.  Filing a formal complaint with evidence this shaky just makes DISD look foolish.

just sayin'
just sayin'

In the spirit of Caraway, I would like to demand that there be a formal investigation into Ron Kulpa's blown call at first in Game 3 of the World Series.

CJAZ
CJAZ

Lost in all of this discussion is that fact that the linesman who made the call had the best view of the play - better than any video angle I've seen.

Montemalone
Montemalone

"no matter how hard you work and how well you perform, someone can break the rules and take it all away from you."

Welcome to the world, Dwayne.

BillyBillyBilly
BillyBillyBilly

And if you look at all available video angles, the ball clearly crossed midfield before crossing back in the grasp of the recovering player.  So video replay would confirm the call on the field. Once it crossed midfield, it doesn't matter that it crossed back.

thefncrow
thefncrow

There's still a good case to be made for that ball going 10 yards.  Yes, the player ends up with the ball around the 49 and a half, but he grabs the ball by reaching out in front of him and pulling it back in.  It's just the ball that has to travel 10 yards, and it appears to do so.

Even if you assume that the footage in the WFAA report was available to the refs on the field in some hypothetical instant replay scenario, I'd say the most likely result you would get is "There is not conclusive evidence to overturn the call".

The most ridiculous part of all this, though, is the Southlake guy calling for instant replay.  You know why instant replay works in the NFL and college?  Because the TV crews are out and are capturing the game from a ton of different angles.  You, on the other hand, are playing high school football and you're often lucky to have a game when there might exist more than 1 camera at field level.  Most often you just have someone filming the game from a single angle for cable access. 

There's also someone from each side recording the game from the skybox to get a wide angle on the field, but a shot from that high up and far away isn't going to help in instant replay challenges.

highschoolfootballofficial
highschoolfootballofficial

You are correct.  The ball broke the plane of the 50 yard line, therefore any Team A player (kicking team) can legally touch the ball.  The ball was legally possessed by the Team A player.  Where he lands on the field after possession is inconsequential.  The call was correct.

40acres
40acres

ray crockett "fumbled" a kick return after his forearm and elbow hit the ground, with the hit including a face mask.  you seem to forget that.  keep crying, sobbing, and whining.  you lost.  you lost the game.  you lost the game.  you lost the game.  you lost the game. you lost the game. you lost the game.  you lost the game. you lost the game.

Batman22
Batman22

Race is brought up because people are idiots! Southlake has black players and coaches! It is socio-economic! Southlake has what everybody else wants, but unfortunately most are not willing to work hard and sacrifice to get it. Rather the are looking for a hand out!

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

I would question who they are going to the mat for?  Is it really the kids or is it for themselves, bc this story has become more about the immaturity of adults overreacting filing protests than the fact that at least skyline made it this far and had a great season. 

Batman22
Batman22

Why not talk about DISD's stellar academic record? DISD may be the best school district in the entire country! The councilman is an idiot! Can he not figure out something more important to do?

Cliffhanger
Cliffhanger

Really. Skyline has a lot to be proud of on-field and off. But it's not this blog that is calling attention to something negative. It's some idiots who care more about a football game than educating kids--including extracurriculars like sports, music, drama, art, etc.

Todd
Todd

Like x 10.

Guest
Guest

On the other hand, aren't we potentially teaching the Southlake kids a bad lesson, too (assuming that the call was blown)?

"You didn't earn your success, but you get it anyway."

That's pretty much what all those protests around the country/world have been against.

Chris Danger
Chris Danger

Isnt that what he, JWP and the rest of the So. Dallas Poverty Mafia have been doing for years, which is to say steal, cheat and hustle people accordingly. Instead of bitching about a lost football game, why not turn this into a true learning opportunity for these kids. One about being the "bigger man" in a loss and practice good sportsmanship..

Daniel Tosh
Daniel Tosh

It actually can matter if it crossed back, but only before touching any player, ref or the ground.  A strong gust of wind could push the ball back and land inside the Skyline restraining line (the 10 yard distance) and it wouldn't be a live ball - yet.  That's one of the rules.  Of course, it went 10 yards and was touched by "any player", so, live ball. Good call. And it doesn't matter at all where the player lands (as long as he is in-bounds). Nice of Caraway to read the rules before firing off a complaint.

thefncrow
thefncrow

D'oh.  Said "Southlake guy" when I mean "Skyline guy". 

40acres
40acres

Did you see that play?  I did.  Did you?  I've been to many high school football games, referees make mistakes.  I don't pay them to miss calls in our favor.  You are convinced that we "pay" referees to make bad calls.  Think about how ridiculous that is.  Join the human race.

Cliffhanger
Cliffhanger

Umm, no. Having ditched the real Highland Park for the Cliff, there's no way I'd live in the 3rd rate version of HP.

40acres
40acres

Does SLC win the state championship EVERY YEAR??????????????????

Just because they are competitive every ignorant douchebag in the world feels the need to cry injustice.  I love it because it simply confirms what WE ALL KNOW.  If the "haves" wanted it over the "have nots" SLC would win the championship EVERY SINGLE YEAR; YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.  But they do not.  Sometimes they win, sometimes they don't.  When we don't nobody says squat about it, when we win we are accused of cheating, etc.  I despise ignorance.

netarrantparent
netarrantparent

How did the "Southlake Kids" not earn the "success"?  They were down 24-14 with 2:26 left in the game drove 70 yards to score and cut the lead to 24-21 with 1:07 left in the game.  Recover an onside kick that video shows travelled 10 yards and then drive 50 yards in 3 plays to take a 28-24 lead.

phe_75034
phe_75034

No, the Occupy protests were NOT about "You didn't earn your success, but you get it anyway". They were about "You, Mr./Ms. Capitan-of-Industry,  earned (or inherited) your success, so now the rules no longer apply to you".

Amazing to me how many people STILL don't get it.

As for the call in question - blown or not, I think the lesson is "shit happens".

40acres
40acres

I cannot tell you just exactly how happy we are to have beat your team.  I cannot explain to you just exactly how good it feels.  It is really amazing.  I am sorry you have never won a state championship.  It truly is an amazing achievement.

40acres
40acres

People are in fact leaving HP and SL in DROVES to move to Oak Cliff.  You may have started a mass migration.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

fuck off, i'm not writing a fucking english paper for finals, it's a blog for christs sake, nice original name

Guest
Guest

I said "assuming the call was blown"

So, you know, assuming the call was blown, then it didn't travel 10 yards, etc.

Guest
Guest

I would think that one of the big rules is that you have to win the game to win the game. If that doesn't apply, then that's effectively saying the rules don't apply to you. You got something you didn't earn, and even though you didn't earn it, you get to keep it.

(Again, ASSUMING THE CALL WAS BLOWN. I can't tell one way or another from the video, so I'm not saying it was or wasn't).

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