Downtown Neimans Now a Little Less Festive After Protestors Throw Fake Blood on Windows

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Photos by Leslie Minora
A few minutes ago, Occupy Dallas posted to its Facebook page a note that two of its former members -- which is to say, the group of protesters who split the camp before Dallas Police broke it up last week -- were arrested for decorating the downtown Neiman Marcus with a little fake blood. We're trying to confirm the arrests with DPD, but as you can see from Leslie's freshly snapped photo, yup, some of its holiday windows are now a little less festive.

Ginger Reeder, veep of corporate communications for Neimans, reminds us today: Every Friday after Thanksgiving, animal-rights activists pay a visit to Neimans locations across the country. This year was no different, except this time, in downtown Dallas, they were joined by members of OccupyNOW, who posted to their Facebook page this morning the heads-up that they were celebrating "National Buy Nothing Day with Animal Connections of Texas [by protesting] at Neiman Marcus for Fur Free Friday on behalf of the 5th grievance of OWS."

Update at 1:35 p.m.: DPD spokesman Sherri Jeffrey confirms that "two people were arrested for criminal mischief," but that police "can't confirm their affiliation with anything." Sgt. Steve Toth told Leslie that the incident occurred at around 11 this morning, and that animal-rights protestors have disavowed their association with the act of vandalism; they told the officer that "this was probably done in a moment of desperation" by the Occupiers who'd hitched a ride.

Update: According to the police report, the two men involved -- 21-year-old named Matthew Markovitch and 19-year-old Zechariah Thomas Vasquez -- did around $3,000 worth of damage.

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Says Reeder, "it's been a while" since someone decided to redecorate a storefront -- "three, four years," give or take. "But we've had that happen before -- not just in Dallas, but all over the country." Updates forthcoming. Meanwhile, Occupy Dallas has taken its protest to NorthPark Center, where some of its members are "holding signs to encourage shoppers to spend money at local businesses and support their community."
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Scretch
Scretch

Sorry i'm not buying the hype. It's all staged to incite BULL SHIT. I care not about a corporation's window. Really.

JOSHUA
JOSHUA

......"Who KNOWS what EVIL lurks in the MINDS of men?....the Shadow Knows!" lamont cranston rip

JOSHUA
JOSHUA

Yuk...how declasse....fake blood thrown on the windows is SO like putting out plastic flowers at a cemetery...doesn't any of this crowd of clowns understand that NEIMAN's is not about FAKE, other than its customers.

Bill
Bill

these freaks tossing fake blood at fur wearers should stop by a biker bar sometime and see all the leather- and i'd like to see these puzzies try something there.

RTGolden
RTGolden

Whatever happened to Bing Crosby and Peace on Earth and all that crap?  The people on here hate each other worse now, in the season of giving, than they have all year.  Between this story and these comments, and the black friday idiocy, I say to hell with Christmas.  Bah Humbug.

Catbird
Catbird

There sure seem to be some unstable posters on this page...

Matthew Markovitch
Matthew Markovitch

Every single day that we sit by and just hope that people listen to us is one day too many.  Because we let these bull shit immoral/evil corporations exist, is the only reason they continue to exist.  We need to get sensitized and realize that blaring off your voice isn't enough.  If your children were being torchered by these people I'm sure tommorow you would show up to thier headquarters with your guns holding people up demanding they stop thier immoral activity.  Until we physicaly make our way into thier stores and homes and physically drag out the Corporate leaders and beat the hell out of them or "worse", they will continue to give us bull shit lip service to make us happy and make us go home while they do whatever the fuck they want.  Sorry act protestors, the only thing your doing to make a difference is you make people think something is being done when you complain and not do anything about it.  So stop complaining behind your computers like six year olds and get out there, grow numbers bigger than the police can stop and forcfully do what needs to be done to stop evil from occuring.  until you do that, nothing will ever change. 

yawn
yawn

YEAH! We are the .0000000000000000099%!!!

vegetard
vegetard

forcfully do what needs to be done to stop evil from occuring.  until you do that, nothing will ever change."

Well, then do it tough guy...what are you waiting for??

Rangers100
Rangers100

OK.  What do you think of the Joe Nathan signing?  Do you think the Rangers should attempt to re-sign CJ Wilson?

Matthew Markovitch
Matthew Markovitch

now that the protest actually got people attention,  We can now talk about the bull shit fur trade, the electric probing up animals asses and skinning them alive,  the hellish conditions they keep the animals in and the obvious immoral nature of this company.  I'm ashamed of the animal activists who are against this.  You think standing peacefully in front of a privatly owned corporation is really going to do anything?  you need to send a message to these people that it won't be tolerated anymore.      On a side note.  the people who were arrested, were wrongfully arrested.  they were only arrested because they were splashed with red blood. 

Rangers100
Rangers100

You sound like you're still pretty torn up about Games 6 and 7.  I'm right there with you, bro.  Still hurting.  :-(

S.
S.

I can't believe the unwillingness of the posters here to call a crime a crime.  It doesn't matter if it is Ross Dress for Less or Neiman Marcus.  Defiling private property is a crime and should be treated as such. 

I have a question for the animal rights folks here:  Is it worse to slaughter an animal for it's fur, or is it worse to slaughter a baby by causing it to be born breech, stick a scalpel into it's skull and suck the brain out, just so women's "rights" are protected?  And don't give me the crap about "how is this related?"  I'm bringing this up because the animal rights protestors that I've met don't give a crap about a humans, just animals.  Go ahead and flame me if you will, I have thick skin and don't care.  Everything I've said here is the truth and not just my opinion.  I love animals too, but animals are not born with a soul and human beings are...no matter how small or how grown. 

Guest
Guest

I noted that it was a crime that the very same police force wouldn't enforce against the people who did similar to my parent's house. (Just like how the police won't enforce trespassing laws when it comes to my property, but they were sure as heck at the ready to defend Bank of America's property from trespassers).

So, it's effectively only sometimes an actual crime. I don't know for sure at what level vandalism becomes an actual crime.

Diane Birdwell
Diane Birdwell

Are you talking about DPD? Well, because they have gone after people--kids--for tagging in my area. That is vandalism. They have gone after a lot of what many people consider petty or small-time, because we asked for it. Broken window scenario, if you know what that is.

Not blaming your parents, but you can INSIST that if your property was damaged or you were somehow violated, you can insist on a police report being filed. Yea, it is low priority, but more stats gets us more patrols. More patrols gets us more enforcement.

Diane Birdwell
Diane Birdwell

They shouldn't. I understand your frustration--- but, I have a feeling that the jerk down your street did not want to get caught, whereas, these peopel did. You couuld throw something and run, but I bet they wanted to get busted in an attempt to be heard....

Back to DPD. I am sorry that they blew off your parents. Depends on how much energy and effort it was worth to MAKE a cop do his job--in that, vandalism cases mounting up can indicate a new gang group forming up..... just sayin....

Hope it never happens again, but if it dioes, call the watch commander to make sure a report is made... 

Guest
Guest

It was a few years ago, but it was DPD. Parents tried to file a report, noting that they saw it was the asshole kid who lived down the street. DPD wouldn't take it. Step-Dad pushed. They hung up on him.

And I will note that Neiman's apparently didn't have to push very hard to get these people arrested for their vandalism. Why should my stepfather have to push any officer to do the same for him?

Erin hanes
Erin hanes

I was there. It was an act of civil disobedience. The protesters who threw the blood (which was actually red sugar water) knew there would be consequences for their actions. They did what needed to be done to open peoples eyes. I resent your over-generalizations about animal rights protesters. I spend so much of my time working to help other people, giving money when I have none to spare, donating new clothes to our local outreach center, shaving my head to raise money for the St. Baldrick's foundation. I don't mean to brag or sound conceited, but do not make me, and my fellow activists out to be some kind of heartless monsters. 

Diane Birdwell
Diane Birdwell

Civil disobedience? Man, you guys need to got to school and learn history. Civil disobedience is NOT vandalizing property. It means to DEFY UNJUST LAWS!! God, what is wrong with this generation? Are they just plain stupid?

I don't care if it was sugar-water or acid, it is not their property. If they want to lodge a protest, scaring kids on their way to Santa is not it.

Please give me their home addresses of their parents, so I can throw some sugar-water at their houses for not raising a person who knows how to protest. Geesh.

Diane Birdwell
Diane Birdwell

"National Buy Nothing Day with Animal Connections of Texas [by protesting] at Neiman Marcus for Fur Free Friday on behalf of the 5th grievance of OWS."

What a load of crap. I am pro-animal rights, but what in hell, what in bloody hell, has THAT got to do with anything involving bank loans and bail-outs?

It is like whack-a-mole protesting. Focus, people, focus.

Guest
Guest

I remember when a bunch of kids threw stuff at my parent's house (damaging a window and some paint) and the police came and arrested them right away.

Oh wait, the police just said that "boys will be boys" and said there's nothing they could do.

Are the police trying to prove some of Occupy Whatever's points (that corporations and businesses have a different set of laws than the rest of us)?

JasonW
JasonW

Why not do this to the Apple Store. Apple makes a lot more money than Neimans. Damn hippies. Does Neimans sell Hippie-Be-Gone spray?

Guest
Guest

Probably because Apple discontinued the fur-covered iPod a few years ago.

Ali_stjohn
Ali_stjohn

This is a picture, a window, into the frustration of people. Why would someone do it? It's not about fur necessarily and good point on neiman Marcus sticking with Dallas and keeping it going when everyone pulled out of downtown years ago. This is an example of what happens when people start to lose control. Someone was bound to do it. No one seems to be listening. There are many more statements like this to come. Will it change anything? Will it give people their power back...? What happened in the London rots... This is a small offense in a big game. Wonder what is next.

TruthSucksSometimes
TruthSucksSometimes

"What happened in the London riots?"

A bunch of blacks rioted because the cops shot a black violent thug.

Anon
Anon

"There are many more statements like this to come."

I hope so...protesting is hard work and the I love the statements, especially these two:

  1. Occupiers in NYC were "terrorizing" children walking to school because the children witnessed them in what they called a "scary parade."

and now

  2.  Occupiers in Dallas were "intimidating" grandmas and their grandchildren visiting Santa at Neiman Marcus.

Just too classic.

Shame on violence
Shame on violence

The manager was outside bravely staring done violent, threatening low lives who were doing their best to intimidate grandparents and children who were there to see Santa. Screaming epithets and vandalism somehow does not seem to be a good way to help anyone understand a different point of view. Whatever NM sells is only what its customers clamor for.  Why are these people protesting about furs when we will see liquor stores sell a consumable that kills lots of humans...why are they not protesting meth dealers who ruin an incredible number of lives.  If these people want to make a difference with animals, volunteer at the animal shelter and contribute to efforts to spay and neuter.  Or for that matter, why don't they walk on to the Bridge and help feed the homeless.  Or maybe keep walking over to Salvation Army or Genesis Woman's Shelter and help out with women and children who have been abused. NM is an easy target because they put themselves out there...as someone pointed out, NM could have left downtown when every other business did.  But they did not...downtown would be no where near the edge of revitalization that it is if not for NM's dogged determination to sustain downtown.  Whether $3000 or $3, who cares?  Thuggery and intimidation have no place in this world.  Protest peacefully, become a volunteer and contribute with your time and money.  That's how you make a real difference.  Shame on the thugs and all of you mocking the work of so many good people.!!

animal lover
animal lover

You are frighteningly naive and ignorant.  The two individuals vandalizing property were not there to protest the cruelty and sickening torture/murder of animals stripped of their skin so that some ugly fur hag woman can adorn herself in it.  The people that WERE there to protest the atrocities that animals endure have already spent tremendous amounts of time volunteering at animal shelters and donating their money and crying their tears and spending hours/months/years of their lives and begging for help in an effort to aid the animals they support.  It never fails that those that DO support animal causes are criticized by ignorant do-nothings that scream about how we should all be helping people instead of animals.  It is the anthem of those who have spent not one penny OR one hour or expended an ounce of effort to help either.

Diane Birdwell
Diane Birdwell

I help animals in all sorts of ways. I also think that wearing fur, gathered in the cruel ways we all know about, is wrong...But to throw fake blood on a shop window is pointless, silly and yet again, shows the severe disconnect between some protesters and life in the real world. I wish N-M would not sell fur coats, but destroying their property makes one a criminal, not a rights advocate. Learn the difference.

animal lover
animal lover

Diane - you failed to comprehend my comment.  It clearly differentiates between the two individuals there to vandalize private property for their own agenda - versus the dedicated animal rights people that were bravely speaking out against cruelty and violence endured by helpless beings at the hands of our fellow humans.  Learn the difference. 

Le Freak
Le Freak

live amongst animals if you love them so much, a pack of hungry rabid wolves preferably.

Mwootto
Mwootto

"The manager was outside bravely staring done violent, threatening low lives who were doing their best to intimidate grandparents and children who were there to see Santa." Classic.

Anon
Anon

I laughed so hard too.  Those were my thoughts exactly...classic.  I almost want to post that quote on my facebook page.  I wish I could like a comment more than once.

Side-Swipe
Side-Swipe

This is a bunch of BS! Why would you spend $3,000 to clean a window? Hell I would have done it for $10. For those who bash the Occupy movement either OD or ON! come see me personally and I'll set you straight.

FredrickMD
FredrickMD

You wouldn't get your lazy ass out of the house for $10 much less actually WORK. Period.

cp
cp

See above. Why do you assume they knew what the substance was? Used to be paint and that's not supposed to be just washed down the gutters. 

Anon
Anon

Heard it was sugar water.

Oak Cliff Townie
Oak Cliff Townie

Okay If They were cleaning the window because it was part of a days work it would cost a Less than a real buck and a half.But if they are cleaning Our window because someone Tossed what ever on it they can cost it out at what ever they want to ..

Rangers100
Rangers100

"Wall Street" I get, but can someome remind me what Dallas did wrong such that it needs to be occupied?

Albert
Albert

Dallasites continue shopping when #occupy has imposed a mandatory ban on economic activity, that's what dallas is doing wrong.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think this is silly, and the occupiers should get back to protesting the banks.  But I hope the press is not going to let Neiman Marcus get away with claiming it costs $3,000 to hose off a window.  That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

Anon
Anon

Well, I used to work for Neimans and they made their corporate people buy their own pens and pencils - that's how cheap they are to their employees!  So I won't be surprised if they claim an obnoxious amount for cleanup.

cp
cp

It's believable. Looks like there's a manager out there helping. Then all that crap went onto the sidewalks and streets, and you know NM likes to be good stewards of their flagship block, so they probably spent some money cleaning that up too. And who knows if they even knew what it was, for all they knew it was paint, so they might have done their due diligence and did the right thing by having an industrial cleaning service out too to dispose of some unknown chemical the right way. Plus it could have impeded some sales on Black Friday, although I think they're being honest on that one because nothing at NM costs under $3,000.    

Anon
Anon

What do they do when a bird cr*ps on the sidewalk?

Devlin McGwya
Devlin McGwya

Bird crap? Man, don't you know that's a $500 cleanup AT LEAST? I mean, obviously.. I know I spend at least that when a bird craps on my window, rather than going to the car wash. *Sarcasm*

Adam Strange
Adam Strange

Oh grow a aet of balls Dallas. I was there. it was red sugar water. Thank your stars that it wasn't the Animal Liberation Front, Animal Defense League, Animal Equality, Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, Compasion over Killing, Foxwatch, Justice Department, Mercy for Animals, or those assholes over at PETA. It takes 40 raccon dogs to make one fur coat. Dog is unsually used for leather goods, not cows. These animals are ANALLY electricuted to preserve their skins. And all you can talk about is the supposed $3,000 Neiman Carcuss is alleging they spent on having one mis-treated mexican to hit the window with a water hose. Every year animal rights activist protest outside of Neiman Marcus and every year they set record sales on the skins of our canine brothers. Who ever claims to be for animal rights and complains about the actions taken today is not an animal lover. They are just more people how think protesting is an excuse to party and hook up.

Devlin McGwya
Devlin McGwya

Well said. The fur trade is pretty sick, even when compared to slaughter houses and other acts of animal cruelty. If you want proof (And proof is something I think should be something people ask for under any circumstances of these kinds, it's only reasonable to want to see and judge for yourself, even if you're pretty certain what you're hearing, or reading is true.) then just look up dog skinning, fur factories, and things along those lines. I think you can even find quite a few horrific videos even on YouTube. I've spoken to some people who are under the impression that the anal electrocution and skinning dogs alive are rare events in these trades, when they're horrifically "normal" behavior within said trade, and that bothers me for many reasons, not the least of which being the fact that many people are so naive when it comes to these matters.

Ben792mm
Ben792mm

I totally agree - thank you.

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