Tomorrow, LULAC to Tell Council How It Feels About "Unconstitutional" Redistricting Map

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What's that? You want another redistricting item? Well, then, you are so in luck. Anna too, since she's got some place to be at 9 tomorrow morning.

The city has not yet sent to the Department of Justice the new map of council districts approved by the council -- just barely -- on October 5. Arlicia Herron, in the Redistricting Office, says it will be "going within the next two weeks," and that changes can't and won't be made to it between now and then. Which, as Anna noted last week, isn't stopping some Hispanic leaders from demanding the map be reworked yet again to make room for five Latino districts, given that 42 percent of the city's population is Hispanic. (Though, as civil rights attorney Mike Daniel recently insisted, "The growth of the Hispanic population is significantly noncitizens and noncitizens of voting age.")

Right now, the map appears to have four Latino districts -- though Domingo Garcia, the former council member turned redistricting commissioner, insists there are but two. Which brings us to this: Tomorrow at 9 a.m., representatives from the League of United Latin American Citizens and the Latino Redistricting Task Force are scheduled to show up at Dallas City Hall for what's being billed as a "urgent Dallas redistricting meeting." From the invite we received:
Fellow LULACers and concerned citizens,

On 10/05/11 the city of Dallas adopted a map that clearly undermines and dilutes the Hispanic vote. This, by definition, is gerrymandering and it is unconstitutional.

As the League of United Latin Americans, we need to speak up on this issue and be the voice of our community. There are 50% more white-majority districts (6) than Hispanic-majority districts (4) in the new approved city council map. This is in a city where the Hispanic population is 47% larger than the white, non-Hispanic population.

The city of Dallas needs to understand that this is NOT okay and that the constituency of Dallas will not stand for it. Our Voice Counts, Our Vote Counts, and We Matter!

Please come to this meeting; it is essential that we show up in force. ... The Dallas City Council must reflect Dallas. That is the law!
Mayor Mike Rawlings's chief of staff, Paula Blackmon, confirms there are several speakers signed up to address the council tomorrow about redistricting. "We welcome individuals who want to express their views in front of the city council," she says. "It's an open meeting, and we'd like to hear from them." Not gonna have much of a choice, sounds like.
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Jnickell60
Jnickell60

The first problem seems to be that a majority of Hispanic voting age Dallas residents are not eligible to vote because they are not US citizens. The second problem seems to be that that Hispanic age voting residents eligible to vote don't bother to vote. When the Medranos can buy an election simply by packing a quorum into a single residence, there just may be an Hispanic voter participation problem. 

Jpotrammell
Jpotrammell

I hope they win the fight. They will end up with less representation than they have now. They would end up with almost everyone but maybe one with Hispanic voters being the minority in the districts.This will just dilute the voting strenghth they have now. Even the hispanic memebers of the city council right now know that. This is just LULAC wanting media attention. If you look at the numbers and the voting patterns, it will not work. It would be hard if every single Hispanic voter voted and that won't happen. This is just crap. This is a warm up to trying to get a Hispanic US house district. One thing I can say is that Elba seems to care more about the people in her old district and her new county commisoner district than  Domingo did as a council memeber and in Austin. He just want the media attention and trying to out do Roberto Alonzo. Like I've said before, Dallas needs new leadership in the hispanic community. They need a hispanic Ron Kirk. Some one who can get a diverse group to vote for them. I remeber when Domingo Garcia ran for Mayor. When the newspaper poll him geting about 30% with Ron Kirk polled 40% and Jordan got 30%. When the election came Garcia got 10%. Why? Because when you poll, that is not who is actually voting

Omar Jimenez
Omar Jimenez

"Though, as civil rights attorney Mike Daniel recently insisted, "The growth of the Hispanic population is significantly noncitizens and noncitizens of voting age."

So, did you ask them? How do you know? Do they just look like there illegals?

bbetzen
bbetzen

Mike Daniel, and many others, have insisted, "The growth of the Hispanic population is significantly noncitizens and noncitizens of voting age."  If their insistence is correct, and it may well be, then why would it bother them to have a district that is both compact and majority Hispanic, even with as much as 70% voting age population Hispanic?  Those who cannot vote, if they are really in the percentages that some people claim, then will have no effect on electing the candidate of their choice. Redistricting is about guaranteeing equal voting rights.  Until you are able to vote, and exercise that power, it is not an issue. 

Those who want to avoid having many districts in Dallas that are majority Hispanic are required to use gerrymandering, which is discouraged by redistricting guidelines. Texas has a history of using many methods to thwort minority voting.  (See http://www.maldef.org/resource...  Other more common methogs include gerrymandering and other manipulations in the redistricting process, and most recently voter ID laws. 

If the Dallas population was reflected in the ethnic majority distribution in the 14 districts there would be 4 white majority districts, 4 black majority districts and 6 majority Hispanic districts. In the most compact map that made it to appear before the City Council, Mayor Rawling's submission of wPlan03c, we had a map with Voting Age Population counts that provided 4 majority white districts, 3 majority black districts, and 5 majority Hispanic districts. There were also two coalition districts, one of which was majority Hispanic, and the other which was majority white, but could be amended to be majority black.    Would those districts vote for candidates of the same ethnic group?  Probably not due to many who are unable to vote.  But that is a separate issue, and the one that is settled at the voting booth where it should be.

Such a critical issue should not be settled by a demographer drawing district lines.  The demographer should only work on meeting the guidelines that were so expertly passed at the beginning of the year by the Dallas City Council.

Let the person redistricting not attempt to manipulate the power of the voting booth!

Maddox
Maddox

Given that no one (including Bill) has been able to create a map that creates 5 Hispanic districts and 4 African American majority districts, I think that Bill is being rather intellectually dishonest about being the propaganda minister in chief for Garcia's newest push here. Unfortunately for Donna Halstead's friend Domingo, he got lazy towards the end and let Jasso handle the final push in getting the map through council. She failed.

In comments he made to the Dallas Morning News, Garcia claimed that District 2 is "in danger" as well because the Greenway Parks neighborhood is in District 2. However, given that Greenway Parks is in District 2 under the commission approved map that Garcia took a leading role in getting through, Domingo is being patently untruthful. If the District 2 in the Commission approved map had Greenway Parks, had a Hispanic VAP of 53%, and was considered safe by Garcia, then why isn't the District 2 in the City Council adopted map, which has a Hispanic VAP of 56% and seems to be Medrano approved, good enough for Domingo?

In the end, Garcia let the ball drop, and he let Jasso try to get the bill through council without talking to any people from the North. However, in looking at the 2007 election returns from the 3rd District, Hernandez came within a hair of beating Neumann. Given that the new 3rd District is drawn to be a coalition district that leans towards African Americans, I think that Hispanics could win this seat if they ran a gay friendly candidate from Oak Cliff that would be a strong contrast to Hill. Of course, candidates win only if their supporters turnout to vote. I'm sure that Jasso is aware of that in District 1 as well.

bbetzen
bbetzen

Maddox,Please read my post more carefully.  I spoke of 3 majority black districts which also happen to average 63% black voting age population and will certainly have a high probability of lasting the next decade.  Three such black districts are not in the approved map which has three majority black districts that will certainly not survive the next 5 years, one of which is probably already gone, if the population movement of the past decade has continued. (The way the black community is being unjustly treated by the "approved map" to be sent to the Department of Justice is explained in more detail at http://dallasredistricting2011... .)

The fourth black district I spoke of is from a coalition district wherein the majority group would be black, about 35% or better.  I never spoke of four black majority districts.  It is not possible to make such a map wherein there is any chance even two of the four districts will last the next 5 years as a black majority district.  Population movement must be planned for. 

The best predictor is the past decade. Where did blacks move this past decade?  They moved out of the 4 black majority districts we had in 2001.  About 16,700 moved out, and over 9,100 moved into the 6 majority anglo districts to the north.  We now have growing black and Hispanic communities in North Dallas that are fragmented between as many as 3 white districts.  Therefore, due to the fragmentation, they have not yet formed a "winnable" majority due to the imposed fragmentation.  That is what they call gerrymandering.

Hasanmary
Hasanmary

You are inflating your numbers again, 4,000.  Give me a break.

bbetzen
bbetzen

A strong voting block of 4,000 can carry almost every city council election on any side of Dallas. Are you saying that is not correct?  Kessler and Stephens Park is one such block.  (In my opinion they have also produced one of the most active and honest current City Council Members who will justly represent everyone in Dallas, but certainly his district.)   

Are you saying that with the approved map that there will be any more than one, maybe two, black majority population districts remaining by the end of 5 years?  You know well that the black community in Dallas is as unjustly treated by the map that passed as were the Hispanic community.   Please point out any errors to the "Redistricting map an injustice to Blacks" article at http://dallasredistricting2011...

Hasanmary
Hasanmary

You want blacks to win a district that is 35% black but in the same breath, you say that hispanics can't win a district that is 74% VAP and 56% registered.  It appears to me that you have no real concern for black representation.  I agree with Maddox that you are being dishonest.

LatinoAmerican
LatinoAmerican

Newt Gingrich just said in the GOP debate tonight, "most hispanics in America are not immigrants, most hispanics in this country are born here." What say ye Mike Daniels? Where did you get your data Mike Daniels? 

lorlee
lorlee

probably by actually going out and looking at what is on the ground.  I actually live in a tri-racial neighborhood and can attest to what Mike says.  While there are a large number of Hispanics in my neighborhood, they are either not legal or under 18.

lorlee
lorlee

No, I actually know my neighbors, have worked the elections, walked door to door registering people.  And you?

Dumbfounded
Dumbfounded

Right on DuckDuck, she just made the dumbest comment I have ever fucking heard. 

DuckDuckGoose
DuckDuckGoose

lorlee, you've actually asked to see their green cards or birth certificates?  Is that part of the "welcome to the neighborhood" hospitality your neighbors get?

Matthew Gunter
Matthew Gunter

Gerrymandering is unconstitutional?

Traditional maybe, but not unconstitutional.

Conflicted
Conflicted

Its interesting to note: In my opinion, it appears Mike Daniels used to be a "Civil Rights" Attorney!  Now he seems to be a "City Hall" and "DHA" Attorney! If true, what caused the change? Interesting???

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