Ron Paul Supporters Prove, Once and For All, That Meetup is Still Good For Something

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Honk if you find politically motivated honking sort of annoying.
Driving home last night, I saw a few lonely sign wavers on the north side of Northwest Highway. "Bring our troops home now," the signs urged, and I thought: Hey. That's nice. A totally depoliticized protest of our country's ongoing wars, just some guys who, on a comfortable Tuesday evening, felt the urge to voice their displeasure with our sending kids to get their faces blown off and to return home to an unfamiliar world where they suffer through PSTD, unemployment and trading cha-cha tips with Nancy Grace, unimaginable scenarios all of them.

But, no. Just as I was about to honk in support of their efforts, I noticed the sign-wielders across the street, the ones asking me to honk for Ron Paul: Texas congressman, Presidential hopeful, TSA assault victim. I thought it was odd to see them near NorthPark Center, since they usually like to congregate near the Federal Reserve building on Woodall Rodgers. Maybe they heard Richard Fisher had plans to catch an early showing of I Don't Know How She Does It.

Anyway, I pulled over and heard all about the media's "black out" of candidates who don't fit the narrative, which would have seemed so wacky and endearing if it weren't sorta true. They also told me they used meetup.com to throw together last night's rally, which I assume is because they think Facebook is an arm of the government?

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Mavdog
Mavdog

There are few articles that stir up a hornet's nest like penning one on Ron Paul.

While devotion to a politician is rarely taken to the level the Paulistas achieve, and as a poltical minded person I can respect and even admire the exuberance, it is also laughable to read the predictable responses from the Paulistas, declaring their candidate is only about "liberty", railing about the Fed, the gold standard and crys for Ludwig von Mises to be followed.

Frankly Ron Paul is just that uncle that wasn't quite right but had just enough clarity to every once in awhile say things that were interesting. However, everyone in the fmaily knew to keep a watch on the ole uncle so that he didn't have the chance to get his hands on something that would possibly do harm to him or to others.

Yeah, that's Ron Paul. You can admire his dedication, his sincerity, the fact that he isn't out for personal enrichment and is truly a patriot. But at the same time Ron Paul needs to be kept away from being put into a position where he could do some real and serious harm to all of us.

mrwiizrd
mrwiizrd

We're using money we don't have, to murder people we don't know, for reasons we don't understand.

 

And you're telling me that Ron Paul would put a stop to that and getting my jewels handled up on by creepy blue and white clad Nazi's at the airport?

 

You bet your ass he's getting my vote.

Paul
Paul

This is great. People voicing their political views in public.

However, what is really great is the ones who were trying to get kicked out of the gene pool by standing on the curb, leaning out into 45+ mph traffic, waving their signs.

And if you honked that just encouraged them to lean out even farther.

Michele
Michele

Hey Joe, Thanks for the article.  Actually there were 20 Ron Paul supporters holding signs. That is about 20 more than you will ever see holding signs for the other candidates.  We believe in Ron Paul because he has voted for personal liberty for 30 years. He does not change according to what is popular.  My main purpose for getting up off the sofa to stand on the street corner was to encourage those that drive by to google Ron Paul see his stand on the issue, see why we are so passionate about him that we will stand on a street corner and hopefully join the R evol ution.   From your remarks you should join!  Yes..we were out there protesting the ongoing undeclared wars.  Is there another candidate in either party that is against us being the worlds police?  Against us spreading democracy by killing civilians?Freedom is popular...join the r EVOL ution

Erik
Erik

Pointless

JeffnDallas
JeffnDallas

Joe, I was one of those out there and run three professional networking groups in Uptown, thanks to Meetup.com so that online community is alive and well, however "I" found out about this event ala Facebook as well.

Kinda blows your theory, buddy, since we're on there too...lol.

I actually wish more candidates WERE advocating bringing the troops home, saving lives and some $2 billion per day, as we'd GLADLY have them out there waving with us...but they're not.  Only "one candidate" is...Ron Paul.

So if you support the "policy" the question is will you support the one and only candidate who agrees with you?

Liberty2012
Liberty2012

Ron Paul is proof that the message of liberty cannot be silenced by big government or the lamestream media. Supporters will use every outlet possible, including Meetup, to spread the message because everyone else wants his message silenced.

In Dr Paul's words, "freedom is popular." Not big government handouts, but freedom.

Ace Knapp
Ace Knapp

Use to be a republican, but I was tired of cutting deals and rolling over to take it in the rear by the democrats time and time again....."Bipartisanship is gasoline on the torch of tyranny" - AK

Ace Knapp
Ace Knapp

Good job PATRIOTS! Thomas Jefferson would be proud! RON PAUL 2012! WE ARE MAKING SERIOUS HEADWAY!

Anonymous
Anonymous

It's beyond me why this bugs you so much. Ron Paul has a lot of positions I really disagree with but he's not a pussy like most politicians who try to hide behind anything that might go against popular opinion.

Chris Danger
Chris Danger

I wont go into my talking points where I compare Paul to a crazier right-tilting version of Dennis Kucinich but i'll say it this way: You dont want this guy or other tea-baggers in power. Want your personal rights stripped away and made to live an Ayn Rand existance, vote this power hungry little man in...At least I know what im getting w/ our current president...

Electrictoothsyndrome
Electrictoothsyndrome

Pretty feeble attempt to belittle a group of passionate young people who, thank Christ, are at least motivated enough to forgo smoking weed and playing video games to exercise their Constitutional right of free sPeech and free assembly.

The article kinda makes just look like some kind of driveling smartass.

Irish Spring
Irish Spring

Joe, you're going to raise the ire of Ron Paul's minions with this article. Tread lightly!

As you know, one President Paul is in power, we will have to carry around our sacks of gold and silver. And who will be laughing then? I shall laugh haughtily, for I have already invested in a sack company! Take that Obama!

TimCov
TimCov

No, Facebook just keeps altering its interface to the point that it has become almost completely unusable. I predict they will end up going the way of myspace if they keep this up.

was libertarian, then grew up
was libertarian, then grew up

these perspective-less kids who find it so emotionally appealing to get big gov out of their bongs don't realize they will be the first residents in the miles of disease filled tent cities that will spring up once all services are gone and their neato tattoo sleeves keep them from ever getting a job.  oh well, they will in short time realize that weed being illegal isn't worthy of being the deciding factor in voting behavior and will be able to laugh at thier past selves over cocktails in their tax subsidized lofts. 

RonPaulSupporter
RonPaulSupporter

Uhhh, it doesn't really make sense to call Ron Paul's position on the wars overseas as a "politicization" of the issue. It's not like consistently upholding that position over the last several decades has been a key to "political" success.

Why bother writing this kind of sarcastic crap? Go back and read Orwell or E.B. White on the english language, and then cut out your cleverest lines before you publish. You just sound silly.

Tom L (No, Not That L)
Tom L (No, Not That L)

Oh, go ahead. Honk for him. It's not like he's ever going to win the nomination or anything.

Jay Hawk
Jay Hawk

Is adding spaces and CAPS to "revolution" part of the revolution? If so, I'm OUT.

JeffnDallas
JeffnDallas

Riiiiiiiiiiight.  Remember when "candidate Obama" said on his first day as President he would IMMEDIATELY begin the withdrawl of "all soliders" in Iraq and Afghanistan?  And he even followed that statement with, "and you can take THAT to the bank!"

Clip 1: http://youtu.be/p12cAclNCRUClip 2: http://youtu.be/DBEZ6GU73jo

Are you "sure" you know what you're getting with now "President" (vs. "candidate") Obama?

Brian
Brian

"You dont want this guy or other tea-baggers in power. Want your personal rights stripped away and made to live an Ayn Rand existance"

You clearly do not understand:1.  Ayn Rand2. Ron Paul3. The tea party movement.

Unless by "personal rights" you mean big government hand outs.

Gary Doan
Gary Doan

Exactly what 'personal rights' do you you believe he'd strip away?  Is your argument about 'at least I know what I'm getting w/ our current President' meant to imply that the rights Obama has stripped away are preferable because they're 'known'?  Doesn't a voting record that spans over thirty years that consistently upholds rights against growth of government power do more to show what 'you'd be getting' than a single term of President Obama that has delivered, in many cases, the opposite of what he ran on?  Does your label of 'power hungry', outside of the campaign for Presidency that all Presidents begin with, coincide in any way with what his platform is?  Doesn't Ron's pledge never to legislate through executive order or to never take us to war without a declaration by our congress show a candidate who wants to shrink the size of executive power?

Guesty McGuestguest
Guesty McGuestguest

"At least I know what im getting w/ our current president..."

This cracks me up.  It reminds me of an otherwise very sharp person who recently initiated a defense of Obama with "I think he means well."

Can we please draft Hillary, with the proviso that Bill would have to spend the entire four years in South America?

MattL1
MattL1

It's not an article.  It's a blog post.  Lighten up, will ya?

Rufrignkidnme
Rufrignkidnme

Specifically what Paul advocates is legalizing competing currency.  Even though the Constitution points out that states may issue gold and silver coins, the Fed will arrest you if you try to spend it.. you have to pay capital gains on them.  So, say you could if you wanted carry gold or silver coins but it would be much more likely that you passed some sort of paper currency that was redeemable in gold or silver; Then you could use your paper backed paper or your gold backed paper... the danger for the establishment there is that what ppl would choose.

It's okay, you can put your head in those sacks when you realize how wrong you are to oppose liberty.

JeffnDallas
JeffnDallas

Irish, you obviously have not read up on what exactly Ron Paul is advocating.  It's not carrying around gold and silver coins, but simply having our monetary system "backed" by something tangible that does not give the Federal Reserve the ability to print money out of thin air and therefore devalue the currency that we "do use."  We had this standard until Nixon, Ron is just calling for a return to "sane" monetary practice where your dollar actually represents something other than a promisory note.

DallasJarrod
DallasJarrod

I hadn't consider sack companies for investing. Great idea!He doesn't want you to have to carry around gold. He just wants our money to be backed by something other than our promise to pay income taxes. If that's gold and/or silver, then so be it. However, it'll still be paper, but it'll be paper that can be traded in for something of real value. The point being that the Federal Reserve won't be able to create as much money out of thin air as they possibly can, then give it to corporations, domestic and foreign banks and central banks, and the wives of billionaires, all of which is proven to have happened, thanks to Bloomberg.

Gary Doan
Gary Doan

The argument for commodity-backed money is that the federal reserve is allowed to not only devalue our currency, but the recipients chosen disproportionately distributes newly minted money to the politically connected and well off and produces what is known as the Cantillion effect which increases income disparity, right?  Regardless of the merits of the arguments I just presented, let's look at practical reality here.  Whether he wanted to or not, a President Paul would not have it within his power to replace paper money with solely metal, and whether or not he could achieve any sort of return to a fixed gold or silver backing of the dollar can easily be doubted as well.  But for those who believe in the above argument, there are certain steps that would need to be taken before their goals could be achieved, and the very first step almost in-arguably would be a true audit of the fed.  Even for those who believe that a return to something like a gold standard or even Bretton Woods is a 'kooky' concept not deserving of any real consideration, how could merely auditing the fed for the purposes of congressional oversight be a negative thing?  In the past few years, the fed has printed more money to distribute to politically connected banks, both domestic and foreign, than was distributed through both tarps, and did so without the knowledge or consent of congress.  Regardless of the merits of solid metal money, the gold standard, or even Bretton Woods, what rational argument exists against giving our elected representatives information via an audit on what decisions the fed makes in increasing the money supply and who it is distributed to?

jwalker09
jwalker09

was libertarian - Yeah and once you figure out it's the government dealing the drugs you'll change your opinion

Perry Moore
Perry Moore

Maybe these young activists will turn out like their parents--PM dope smokers and AM workers, struggling to support an ever growing list of indolent human refuge that deserves to live in whatever conditions they choose to tolerate. I know that we don't raise our children very well, but neither does the Village.

Gary Doan
Gary Doan

I'm assuming the 'neato tattoo sleeves' comment was about me, seeing as how I was the only one there with full sleeves, and so I felt the need to defend myself.  First off, I haven't smoked weed in over a decade nor has legalizing drugs ever been a motivating factor in support for any political candidate.  In this election, support for basic civil liberties and a rethinking of foreign policy have been my major concerns.  Obama has turned his back on his former supporters by not following through on his pledge to close Gitmo in his first year, and to bring our troops home.  Instead, he's claimed the right to assassinate even American citizens if he deems them to be terrorists, without access to things like charges or trials, and expanded our involvement overseas to things like bombing Libya, Somalia, and Yemen.  He's continued Bush's practices of rendition, and has signaled support for this year's Defense Authorization act which would make it legal for the Department of Justice to hold even American citizens caught on US soil without charge or trial and indefinitely, a power not claimed by our government since the closing of the Japanese internment camps.  Second off, Ron Paul gained my support not because I find him 'emotionally appealing', but because he appealed to my reason.  As far as the major 'government services' you imply are so helpful, it's important to distinguish between types of service.  Social Security currently pays out more money than it takes in.  That's just simple math that shows it's unsustainable.  You may, at this point, bring up the trust fund.  Well, the trust fund has been invested in t-bills, which is basically loaning congress money in exchange for an i.o.u. promise for them to pay it back at some future date.  The money is already spent.  Ron Paul has introduced a bill called the 'Social Security Preservation Act' every year for nearly a decade, which would move the money in the trust fund from t-bills to fixed-rate c.d.s, preventing congress from spending money that's supposed to be held for seniors.  It's never left committee, because Congress likes spending money but doesn't like raising taxes to fund that spending.  As far as government 'services' go, that's the largest one, and if you think Congress should be allowed to borrow the trust fund dry, then don't accuse me of being persuaded by emotion rather than reason.  Either motivating factor comes to the same conclusion.

Daniel Richmond
Daniel Richmond

Won't be a problem once we cut out the war machine pork, eliminate the drug trade exclusive for thugs and make the corporations accountable for their actions.

Dr Sardonicus
Dr Sardonicus

And a very specific invitation toward the referenced Orwell material is extended to you.

Cpl_Rico
Cpl_Rico

I'll honk and I'll vote for him. I vote on principle like Rep. Paul.

John2247
John2247

Ayn Rand - fiction writer who is treated as a visionary by some.  Took full advantage of her Medicare benefits (aka Government Health Care) under her name O'Conner when she was diagnosed with lung cancer.

JeffnDallas
JeffnDallas

Gary, you missed one word in your (impressive) response to Joe's blog...

"SNAP!"

Irish Spring
Irish Spring

Daniel, you got 2 of Paul's positions right. Unfortunately he is a Republican and thinks the fasict corporatist take over of government is fine.

Rufrignkidnme
Rufrignkidnme

Check again Irish spring.. He strongly oposes cronyism and corporatism and has done so for a very long time.  here is one of many you can find yourself if you can stop listening to what others are telling you long enough to look into it your self.  Search youtube "ron paul corporatism"    here's one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...  another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...  .. there is tons of this with him speaking the message.  No reason to be ignorant... stop slipping.

Gary Doan
Gary Doan

Irish, you're right in implying most Republicans pay lip service to capitalism and vote for corporatism instead once they achieve power, same as the majority of Democrats on the second point.  You're wrong in implying that they're a monolithic group and that no exceptions can be found, or that Ron Paul is not such an exception.  The famous sign on his desk that reads 'Don't steal; the government hates competition' is there to dissuade corporations from lobbying for favors, and his voting record and lack of amendments promoting any specific corporations or industries show him to be much less influenced by corporatism than not only the majority of Republicans, but the majority of Democrats as well.  If you don't think Democrats are corporatists, simply research Solyndra, AIG, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, every recipient of tarp, almost every drug company, and if you're still not convinced, let me know and I'll provide more examples.

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