PETA Asked the State Fair of Texas For a Booth. Wanna Guess How Big Tex Responded?

• PETA is a twisted, uneducated, pathetic group that spouts off untruths about the greatest industry in our country, agriculture. Those that continue to complain about agriculture should not do it with a full mouth whether with vegetables or meat. 4-H is the greatest youth organization in this country and I am a 4th generation member proud of my families participation.

• its been a few years since i was in Ag economics, couldnt remember an exact number, just wanted to express that it was small.

• So eating salad and drinking soy milk could make men more effeminate?  Sounds about right!

• Review Staff,  A 500 gram non-implanted beef steak has 1.4 nanograms of estrogen. A nanogram is one-billionth of a gram. 500 grams of implanted beef have 1.9 nanograms of estrogen.  Yes, the implanted beef has more but if you are worried about the estrogen in food, be sure that you don't eat peas, wheat germ, soy, milk - just to name a few. A 500 gram serving of peas has about 2000 nanograms of estrogen; wheatgerm 2000;  soybean oil 1,000,000; milk 65; cabbage 10,000.  Concerned about estrogen in your diet? Beef, implanted or not, is a good choice.

• Also, If a dairy cow is sick and given antibiotics, she's removed from the system for a long time, getting milked elsewhere, and her milk not going into the bulk tank for the general public

• How many people do YOU know that eat bacon EVERYDAY? Like NORMAL people, me and everyone I know only eat it on special occasions.

• So you never cook your veggies. How many people do you know that  eat RAW POTATOES? Raw Corn, Straight off the cob? (it's actually really good, straight off the stalk) And speaking of natural state, do you eat the husks? Because that's how you'd eat it if it was all natural. How many kids grow up ONLY eating cooked carrots? Or without peeling them or washing them straight out of the garden, the NATURAL WAY? Or the same with a cucumber. or Eating the orange peel because that's NATURAL?  or a RAW onion? Or a RAW Butternut squash, without peeling it. Clearly, All natural is the way to go.

• Do your research and talk to your local farmers before you start slandering the meat industry.

• Yeah, I see they still haven't replied. So, PeTA. Your plan to set all animals free, with no control of the populations, oh yeah sounds fantastic. Now, instead of having animals fenced in, we can have them run free in the middle of the road. So we'll have a 1500+ lb bull in the middle of the road (can't castrate 'em- good. 'cause bulls are so much easier to handle than steers.) against your tiny smart car. Yeah you let me know how that goes when the bull wins. There would be so much over population that they would end up staving to death. I personally would rather see them treated well and raised for beef than starved slowly to death. But I'm the one accused of animal cruelty. And before you start flapping your jaw about the hormones, I personally know that one of the only butchers in Connecticut raises his own beef without hormones, and yeah, its grass fed. And I watch him do it. As far as coking it goes, who doesn' t eat cooked potatoes? How many people do you know that eat raw corn straight from the cob? How many kids only liked cooked carrots, peas, and green beans? I eat all those raw, the exception being raw potatoes. And if we're being all natural, go eaat wheat right out of the field. My next point is that we can't kill animals for food, but other animals can? Finally, the whole thing against 4H? For one, not all 4H groups have something or anything to do with animals. There are computer groups, archery, rifle, sewing, and woodworking. And others I've probably forgotten like mechanics. Last night there was an award given for the exhibitor who had the most different livestock exhibits: the winner had beef cows, pigs and goats. My best friend has beef and dairy. Another family has chickens and dairy cows. Anothwr has dairy and sheep. My best friend's little sister has beef, dairy and rabbits. So before they accuse us of favoring or singling out animals, they should 1.look at what I just said and 2. Think about how if people had several of each animal, they'd have to be like Noah. I myself have a goat and 2 cows. But lets put all the farmers and ranchers out of business, as well as the butchers, hunters and farm supply stores. So I dare you to respond to this.

• Settle down Review Staff, I realize 'exactly' what I said, and I was hoping a reader or 2 may find the witticism mildly amusing. You clearly did, but if you persist with your apparent misinterpretation, I shall be forced to exercise my right, liberty, and freedom to purchase objectionable books and burn them in my driveway!

• Why couldn't you reply to any of my posts review staff? I like a good argument, but your lack of acknowledgement, admits defeat in my opinion. Oh and try using some of your own knowledge, instead of regurgitating something you have seen on the internet. Judging by the length of your replies, you should atleast have some sort of rebuttle statement in this debate, im just waiting to here your off the wall view on some of my statements.

• A much more effective and useful booth would be one promoting basic pet healthcare, and spay/neuter. You'd be shocked at the stupidity of people out there, who don't even know to vaccinate against parvo or give heartworm preventative.

• Dear Review Staff: The US Constitution, among other items, describes the relationship between and among the federal government, the various states and individual citizens. The right to free speech described in the 1st Amendment is a prohibition against the government restraining the opinions and statements uttered by a citizen. The 1st Amendment does not apply between two citizens.  The Observer, if it so desired, could remove all of your posts and your 1st Amendment rights would not be infringed.  Similarly, the State Fair of Texas has absolutely and complete control over who, what, and how any vendor can do at the State Fair. Please go review your junior high civics textbook. Sincerely; Paul

• Review Staff's posts here could be used as a near complete study of the argumentive fallacies. Argumentum Verbosium Argumentum Ad Hominem Argumentum Ad Ignorantium I could go on ... and on.

• curb-stomping baby lambs, that is the funniest thing I have read all day. I wish PETA all the best but just like anything, you have to blend in or stay on the fringe.  Just the way things work right now in our little piece of the world.

• Of course he won't reply ... a case of eats, shoots; and, leaves. There are very few unprocessed foods which humans can digest.  These are mostly fruits, but not all. Cooking increases the digestibility of foods by breaking down complex proteins and carbohydrates.  Additionally, cooking also destroys harmful bacteria and parasites.

• The review staff sounds like it's tun by peta. My peta stands foe People Eating Tasty Animals.

• And here I has been thinking that PETA stood for People Eating Tasty Animals ooppss

• How about the appalling use of 4-H's motto as their slogan? That is beyond offensive. If they truly knew anything about 4-H and what it stands for, they would never even attempt something this low-handed. It's hard to give credit to an organization & their beliefs when they don't bother to do factual research and attack a wonderful organization like 4-H with absurd propaganda. 

• So, how many of you actually raise animals for a living? Not all ranchers and farmers or big factory farms are evil.  PETA and the other anti-animal groups only show the ones that are in the wrong.  Have you seen them try to find or show a film about a grower that respects their animals?  NO cause they don't want you to see that.  This is our livelyhood, why would we mistreat animals and make them sick, if we intend to sell them for a profit.  The controversy over antibotics in meat is way overdone.  If your child gets sick, do you take them to the dr and get meds to help them feel better?  99% of you said yes.  You do this because you love them, you don't want them to hurt.  Same with those of us who raise animals for consumption. If you have questions about farmers or ranchers and their practices, go visit one.  Call your local Farm Bureau and ask for some contacts to call and some information, from the people that grow the food you eat, instead of relying on someone who probably thinks their food comes from the grocery store. THINK PEOPLE!!!

• "Natural beef contains approximatly 1.4ng estrogens, implanted with the most potent growth implants increases to nearly 2.3ng per lb. "Natural cabbage: over 3000, natural parsley, over 4000, soybeans....sky's the limit. Normal estrogen production in a human male: over 40,000ng per day. Normal estrogen in non-gravid woman: 2,000,000. Pregnant woman: 4,000,000-8,000,000ng/day. If this is the best argument you have, you need to go back to 5th grade science class.

• Review staff wrote: oh wait, I didnt read any of it so I don't know what he wrote. But I know by the length of it he or she has never been laid. Oh, saw an article where oral sex now surpasses cigarettes for the leading cause of throat cancer in men. Dang. I'm going to continue eating beef, pork, fish and chicken as long as I live. Oh, and I hunt and have passed that down to my kids who will pass it down to their kids and so on.

• Did you know there is more hormones in birth control pills then what is implanted into a steer?? I bet you didn't! Did you know when they implant a steer with a growth hormone that animal cannot enter the food supply right Away? Bet you didn't!! People it is not the meat that is causing problems with obesity, it is portion sizes and what people are drinking and eating with their meals!! Quit attacking America's farmers and ranchers!! They are trying to make a living just like you! They aren't harming you, and if they do not cAre for their livestock correctly they do not get a premium for their product!! Leave American Agriculture alone!! Without it we would be a third world country is that what you want?? Apparently!!

• The moral of the story is, kids, raise your own cattle, feel them only organic grass, love them, pet them, and kill them quickly. Enjoy that steak guilt free cause now no one can bitch about it!

• Review Staff, From reading your posts, I can see you love to hear yourself talk rather than actually listening to other people's points and try to make a valid discussion over the matter. Anyway, I have some things I'd like to point out to you that don't involve skewed research and extreme situations: 1. We as humans are omnivores...do you know what that means? Yes, we are meant to eat both meats and greens. We even have the teeth to prove it. 2. As an educated person with a BS in Nutrition, I'm here to tell you that we DO need meat in our diets...just not a lot. Without complete proteins, our body becomes deficient in certain amino acids...not good. 3. I don't appreciate your slander about "meat heads". I eat meat, and I am by no means unintelligent. Calling people names or stereotyping them is rather immature. Shame on you. 4. I am a fourth generation rancher. We treat our animals as well as we treat our own family. For some people, that is not the case sadly. However, there is a higher incidence of violence regarding humans harming other humans. I think you need to focus your attention to the bigger problem that is present. 5. This whole throat-slitting and live-skinning thing is ridiculous...you would be making more of an impact to take action against the individual company which performed these horrible acts rather than trying to bash the rest of us. 6. There are low people in this world that don't think twice about harming their animals...but a LARGE MAJORITY of ranchers/farmers make every effort to make sure their animals live a comfortable life. As far as people eating animals, would you rather us perform the act of slaying animals like people did in the old days (bow and arrow/long range rifle)? I don't think so. At least we have means of making sure they don't suffer now. 7. Oh and about the whole raw meat to prove you like meat for what it is: Why would we eat meat raw when we can grill it to a nice medium-rare with a little salt and pepper? You don't eat raw vegetables constantly...pot calling the kettle black? Grilling also brings out the flavor of the meat when it has a good amount of marbling to it. 8. Oh wait, it causes obesity...so does every processed product. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that obesity in the US is mainly attributed to over-consumption of refined grains and sugars because they are cheap, tasty, and convenient (and calorie DENSE due to saturated fat and a ton of sugar). Meat is definitely not cheap or convenient to prepare for the most part...and you can choose healthy cuts! Start reading some legit nutritional studies and consider socioeconomic statuses. I hope you have a wonderful day.

• Sorry, its been a few years since i was in Ag economics, couldnt remember an exact number, just wanted to express that it was small.

• I see they deleted my reply, Too real for you?

• For the most part, we do raise animals humanely, PETA searches for extreme cases to display, and belive me, the cases they show are stopped almost immediately. Believe me the slaughter process is as humane as possible. They also argue against antibiotics, but animals get sick, just like us, where would we be without antibiotics, i know when u get sick, u run  to the doctor to get well, shouldnt we do the same for our sick animals.

•  I agree with your reply!  People always think that injecting the cattle with hormones is what makes the producer more money, WRONG!!  We inject them with supplements to produce more meat since farmers are feeding more people each year.  These supplements do cost money, they just don't get them for free.  The farmer's share of a dollar is only 15% (learned in an economics class) so making them weigh more doesn't mean more money!!  At least what is being injected in the cattle is hormones that our body can process easier than the synthetics being used to help preserve other foods.

• If we didn't eat because it might cause cancer, we couldnt eat at all. U are an idiot. P.S. Have u noticed that through the years, theres been all kinds of new cancers and new diseases that come about, for which we dont have a cure. Once you increase the lifespan of the average human. Thats one more person there to allow for overpopulation. When an area becomes overpopulated with animals, a new disease is formed that comes through and cleans out the population. That is all cancer, aids, etc is, its a way for god to keep our population in check. Survival of the fittest has been the way of life on this planet.

• Everything causes cancer nowadays, havent u figured that out yet?

• I only skimmed through your post, but someone who raises cattle gets only about 5 cents of every dollar u spend on steak at the store. So, get your facts straight before u think we are trying to steal your money. Its more than likely a more honest living than whatever u do. The hormones used increase efficiency, which is something every business needs. In the past 2 decades, each American farmer, has gone from producing food for 52 people a year, to producing for 126 people a year, so yes, we need more efficient beef production. U may argue that putting hormones in the animal is killing us as humans, but, i would rather eat hormones that are naturally produced by the human body, than some of the chemicals used to preserve your precious vegetables. Quit complaining, and live a normal life. I sometimes think, yall live the way you do because u simply like to argue, because thats what you end up doing everyday about your uninformed way of life 

• Ok, obviously you are a Vegan. Congrats, you have achieved dumbass status. Oh poor animals, we kill them for meat. Question, do u believe in God? If so, u must have a screwed up interpretation of how your supposed to live. People are just another species on earth, why should we have to follow any other standards then any other species that God put on this planet. A coyote, bear, alligator, lion, etc. is going to track down and kill its food while its still concious and fighting for its life, we are at least decent enough to kill the brain with a stun gun. So stop complaining about every little thing u self righteous waste of human flesh, a starving kid in africa would be happy to get food, and never think twice about how it got to his plate. Why dont u stop complaining about minute aspects of life and start worrying about the big things. Another question, if being a vegetarian is so healthy, why do they look so pale and sick? And if we aren't suppose to eat meat, then why do u have to take pills and try so hard to find other sources of protein to keep u alive without it? Food for thought, and don't even try to argue, u can't win this one.

• Guess what?  Every single vegan dies.

• "review staff" won't reply to that.  They don't want to be reminded that without our ancestors took a evolutionary leap with the eating of cooked meat.  This increased caloric intake of cooked proteins directly led to the increased growth of the human brain. Richard Wrangham of Harvard University argues that cooking of foods may have triggered brain expansion by allowing foods to become more digestible and in effect allow humans to absorb more calories. Wrangham has also suggested that eating cooked food is more "natural" for the human digestive system, because he thinks that the human digestive system may have evolved to deal with cooked foods, and that cooking explains the increase in hominid brain sizes, smaller digestive tract, smaller teeth and jaws and decrease in sexual dimorphism that occurred roughly 1.8 million years ago. He also argues that raw meat and vegetables could not have provided the necessary calories to support the normal hunter–gatherer lifestyle

• The only issue is that in America, we consume about 9 billion chickens a year and about 52 million head of cattle. This is just in the US.  Remember, we also export to meet the food demand worldwide. How do you expect to keep up with the demand without these conditions?  There isn't enough free range. Not even close. In Texas this year, we had the worst drought conditions in our history. If everything was free range, drought would stricken our supply. That is PETA's fatal flaw. Unless they promote a wholly vegan lifestyle, they are foolish to rail against the treatment of these animals when they do not know what it takes to stock a food supply that is safe for consumption and is affordable. Now, if all of the US took on a vegan lifestyle, there would be massive shortages on fruits and vegetables worldwide. People would starve. They already do when there is a simple corn shortage due to climatological issues and the US burning 25% of our corn production in ethanol. There is a fundamental ignorance in their stance. I get that spouting animal rights is in vogue. While it may be fashionable for the less informed, it is still rooted in the ignorance of what is required to sustain the human race. 

• So you're saying PeTA didn't kill all those animals? They didn't have employees arrested for dumping dead animals in garbage cans? They didn't buy a meat freezer to store more dead animals that they euthanized?

• Feel free to actually visit a slaughter facility, a cattle farm, or a cattle sale barn before saying "torturous treatment."

• Review Staff, you are so ignorant. Yes I will admit some animal's are mistreated when they are being raised at certain facilities...but not all of them. If you want to make such a HUGE impact then take your ridiculous rants elsewhere...no one gives a shit about your comments...Why don't you worry about the thousands of kids that are being abused and mistreated in the UNITED STATES...that seems more important to me I guess

• The same only more crazy.

• I don't understand why ppl want to villanize the meat industry. Peta and similar groups like to bring only the negative and worst cases possible to the light. Very few farms actually use the practices show in those videos. The farmers livelyhood is dorectly related to the well being of their animals, the last thing they want is to abuse them.

• And I love bee poop! Better to eat shit than to be a shithead. Guess whay i fertilize your veggies with......you got it Einstein, its cow shit. Idiot.

• Dear Review Staff, It's good to see you're very passionate about your cause, but if you really are looking educate people by having them actually READ your missives, you might want to make them less than 9000 words each. Please don't shoot the messenger. Hugs and kisses, Rooster

• You're right.  To subject them to such conditions would be barbaric.

• What do you have against chickens?

• I love animals.....they're delicious !

• Somewhere back in the paleolithic times, my ancestors learned to cook and we have been improving the method ever since.  Cooking is something that our ancestors learned in order to increase the digestibility of all foods.  Our digestive systems have adapted to this. Eating nothing but meat would be a poor diet choice.  As omnivores, humans are capable of eating both animals and vegetables.  A balanced diet providing the nutrition which our bodies needs is very important. From you antagonistic tone, am I correct that you are a strict vegan and will not be satisfied until everyone else is? If you are a vegan, I presume that you practice what you preach and that you eat all of your vegetables uncooked without any seasonings. By the way, raw meat is pretty tasty but cooking it makes it tastier.  It is something that I learned in my SERE training. I would contend that all of the spices and seasonings you describe were actually developed by meat eaters. In the periods before refrigeration, meat that was beginning to spoil would be highly seasoned in order to disguise the near rotted taste.  If you look at a globe you will see that highly spiced cuisines tend to come from warmer climates. I guess one difference is, is that I post with my real name and I am not so sure about yours. The other difference is that I have no problems with your dietary choices.  I trust that you do obtain enough protein in  your diet, especially for the amino acids which our bodies cannot synthesize, especially lysine.  This can be done by making sure that you eat enough corn and beans. I agree with that animals should not be abused as they are raised for our consumption.  I do not see any reason to take you up on your demand. If PETA is so bent on protecting animals, how do you square that with the thousands of animals that PETA has killed in Virginia? I hope that you have a happy life.

• Crickets...

• So I take it that PETA's stance is that they are anti-abortion/pro-life. Correct?

• Review Staff, are you mentally challenged? I think you might be. Your rants are quite south of sanity. I wish the Observer would ban this troll. 

• Anyone want to stuff Review Staff into a cage full of antibotically enhanced chickens? 

• SCIENCE: EATING MEAT MAY TURN MEN EFFEMINATE Steak contains ladies' estrogen. Men who eat steak may gradually grow more effeminate over time. Meat farmers inject hormones into cows used for human meat, except they're the Feminine kind. Men who eat meat, begin to turn more effeminate. Obtaining a paunch/pooch stomach, sloped rounded feminine shoulders, and males with wide hips. Go look around at a Barbeque next time. Take a look at all the men. Take note of how many have a fat ballooned out paunch stomach, growing worse the older they are. Didn't know this?? Take a look: EVERYONE GO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS NOW: http://www.pfizer.co.za/runtime/popcontentrun.aspx?pageidref=2536 Know what that is? That's a livestock farmer supply source where meat farmers have been buying a product called SYNOVEX-S. Cattle and Beef farmers obtain that and implant it into cattle meat before you eat it, in order to plump it up so that they obtain more money when they sell it, because cattle farmers get paid by weight. Thus if they can bloat up the meat, they can get more money from You when you pay for their meat at the supermarket. Know what's in it? 17-BETA-ESTRADIOL IMPLANTS FOR BEEF CATTLE Know what that is? That's feminine estrogen. The mammalian kind, not the plant kind phytoestrogen that cannot affect you, but actual female estrogen, the kind that a pre-menopausal woman excretes in her period. That's part of the juice in your 'big juicy steak" that you've been sipping. If you've been eating steak and meat, you've been eating this. This is women's estrogen. Estradiol Benzoate. You can clearly see it written in the contents of the package on that page, and you see the picture on the package of heads of cattle. This means it's a veterinary cattle implant that is used on Beef Cattle. 99% of all steak in the US, (including Texas) is soaked with this. Don't believe it? Go take a look. See it for yourself. Put "SYNOVEX-S ESTRADIOL CATTLESTORE" into google and go see what comes up. This means that a Man who has been eating meat and steak has been eating ladies' menstrual pad fluids and you can think about that with every forkfull of meat from here on that you put in your mouth. It's rife with effeminizing hormones. This is why at barbeques you see many men, the older they get, obtaining what's called Gynecomastia, or little man-boobs. Meat eaters get them. Its a result of eating steak. Oh, and by the way, if someone tries to say they eat 'grassfed' beef thinking that doesn't have it, sorry, but grassfed doesn't mean that. Grassfed beef means they feed it grass AND FEMALE HORMONES TOO. The only steak that doesn't have it must be labeled "ORGANIC". By Law. But here's the thing. If you ever see someone say "I only eat organic meat!" thinking they just won, actually they just lost. Less than 1% of all meat in the US is organic. 99% of all meat is not, including grassfed, free-range, etc, that may all have lady-juice in it. So, if a person admits that the only type of meat they eat, is merely the organic type, what they've just done, is admitted that 99% of all meat is UNFIT for them to eat. They've just conceded that they applaud a diet, wherein 99% of it they themselves consider unfit for consumption. What kind of diet is that, where 99% of it is regarded unfit for human consumption. This is what the user will be admitting the instant they say they only eat grassfed, or organic meat. It's not a win. It's a loss. You have to forgive "It's What's for Dinner" he may be getting "all emotional" due to all the feminine hormones inside him right now. FEMALE MENSTRUAL HORMONES: IT'S WHAT WAS IN HIS DINNER.

• "It's What's For Dinner" concedes that he's a Sausage lover. And enjoys the taste of wieners in the mouth. Afterall, that's what a Meat Eater is, by definition. Someone who enjoys meat in the mouth, as he admits.

•  Drtyoldmn burped: "This is America; the fair is free to ban, or at least muzzle, anyone they want!" --HAHAHA! Freedom to BAN. You know what's even funnier? That this user probably doesn't even realize that he just posted an OXYMORON and debunked himself in his own sentence. This is hilarious. Everybody Frame this and save it. He just went around tooting his horn like he's some fake patriotic american for liberty and justice for all, and then exposed himself as against what america and the constitution stand for, as a Soviet or Chinese style fascist that just advocated banning and censorship. The thing is, he probably doesn't even realize it. That's the funniest thing. There must be something in his water. Or the meat he's been eatin'. It must be the reason why the term MEAT-HEAD refers to someone not as smart. This is AMERICA! Where we have the LIBERTY & FREEDOM TO BAN & MUZZLE YOU! ---hahahaha. Drtyoldmn exposed himself.

• Smb38 burped: "If god didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat." - OH! According to Smb38 he says GOD wants us to eat human children! Babies are also made out of meat.  So thanks for posting your saying there, it now means, that according to your meat-based logic, you believe that God says you should kill and eat butchered human infant meat. Afterall, according to YOU, if god didn't want you to, he wouldn't have created babies composed out of meat. You win Extremist Biblical Freak of the site award. Saying god told you it's ok to cut up babies because they are also made out of meat so that makes it ok. To all others: If you see anyone ever caught posting that line (seen before, old) simply reply exposing them as having just condoned frying human babies justified by god, and that person and whatever else they try to pull will be exposed as discredited as an extemist conjuring up religion and telling people that god told them to commit infanticide. Anyone caught posting that line that Smb38 posted just said god ok'd them to kill and eat human infants.

• Fuck. Guess I'll be dead soon from all the cancer and disease, so might as well chow down. In the mean time, we should find a way to raise food animals in a way that minimizes suffering. I don't want all those stress hormones released into my steak, which I don't eat well done.

•  Blowmwobama wrote: "Fuck PETA, I'm going to Whataburger. Sure I may live a couple of years less than a vegan, but at least i'll die a happy man. Oh....and fuck Obama." Wow! You must REALLY LIKE Obama! Because wanting to have sex with someone means you have to be really attacted to them physically, and you just said you want to F--- him. You also clearly said "F--- PETA" too, so you admit that you like PETA too! Wow. And your name is "Blowmwobama" meaning that you indicate that you want to Blow Obama. Wow, you admitted you were a Sausage Lover, and as we know by definition, being a Meat Eater means you love wieners in your mouth, but wow, you're one heck of a hot-dog taster to actually want Blow another man. (Hey, not that there's anything wrong with that, for you, where we know only 2 things may come from Texas, but hey, not everyone's cup of tea. That's on you and announcing your love of meat.) And the fact that you announced that if only you could blow and f-- another man, you will die a happy man, well, not too sure about that, but remember, HIV/AIDS originated from meat-eaters, and with today's modern hospitals, it doesn't mean that you get to live it up, then drop dead a happy man, what happens is, you get anus cancer, perhaps diabetes, hiv/aids, and such, and you remain Alive... Yes, that's right. You don't die, you are kept alive, sometimes for years, maybe even the last decades of your life, wasting away, all atrophied, in a wheelchair, with oxygen tanks and a colostomy bag holding your own urine and fecal matter, while others are living it up. oh, no, you don't die sooner. This is the 21st century, mate. You remain alive. Infected. With arms all withering away, and IV bags, and hair falling out, and financially drained due to hospital bills, and smelling like a sick person in a hospital, and you survive like that for days, and months, and years, as you spend the remaining decades of your life unable to move. But hey, at least you admitted you're a meat-eater now and want to express your love to another man and you let it out in the open that you're a sausage lover. That must be a relief for ya. Good luck with that.

•  Montemalone wrote: "I like meat.I eat meat." - The taste is from plants. And Meat's linked to cancer." Good guy "Montemalone" wrote: "we have a moral responsibility to do what is in our power to minimize any suffering". - This is good. Keep doing that. This makes you very honorable. However, remember that this is not only about animals. This is about humans. Science now shows that this: "I like meat.I eat meat." causes Human damage. By doing this, you are inflicting damage on yourself. In addition, if you go round advocating it to your wife, child, family, etc, you are unwittingly contributing to their potential suffering, not (only) animals. If you as yet just realised the aspect that it's pretty good for you to care about the suffering part, that's good. But if you haven't realised yet, just how concrete and extensive the evidence is linking red meat to diabetes, diseases, human death, sicknesses, contagion, and cancer, then start to have a look. NEWS: "Eating Charred, Well-done Meat May Increase Pancreatic Cancer Risk" - CANCER.ORG NEWS: "Processed meats linked with stomach cancer" - PHYSORG NEWS: "Certain meat components may increase bladder cancer risk" - MEDXPRESS NEWS: "Processed Meat Linked To Bladder Cancer" - American Institute For Cancer Research NEWS: "Bacon, Sausage, Deli, Processed Red Meat Linked To Higher Risk Of Heart Disease, Diabetes" - MEDICALNEWSTODAY NEWS: "Studies show processed meat a real health risk" - Reuters News Service NEWS: "Vegetarians may be at lower risk of heart disease, diabetes and stroke" - MEDICALNEWSTODAY NEWS: "Red Meat Linked To Liver Cancer" - FYI NEWS: "Crab Meat products recalled after potentially dangerous bacteria found" - CNN NEWS: "Heme Iron From Red Meat may Increase Blood Pressure" - MediNEWS.Direct NEWS: "Red meat doubles rheumatoid arthritis risk" - MEDNEWSTODAY NEWS: "Vegetarians Less Likely To Develop Blood-Cancer Than Meat Eaters" - Leukemia NEWS: "Red meat increases risk of death from cancer" - The Globe and Mail Didn't realise this? Go verify it for yourself. Go put "Meat Cancer" into any search engine and look what comes up. Also, don't mistakenly think that this is all from Peta, Peta has nothing to do with the Globe & Mail, or the CDC, or CNN, etc other than maybe pointing their finger to all of these and saying See? And wanting to do this at some Fair in Texas or something. This is all confirmed research by science, not any case of 'everything causes cancer' because as you see, up in there are ones showing that the plant-based diets did Not cause it. And as far as "liking" it, the case is that most of the flavors are due to plant based flavors coming from seasonings, spices, and cooking it, not the actual meat itself, otherwise eating it raw unflavored would be even more delicious and it's not. What youre remembering is the flavors that all originated from plants. Plus the fact that there is no essential nutrient only found in meat that humans require, means that you can not only care about and avoid animal suffering, but every person advocating eating less animals and more plants actually cares about HUMANS! If you never realised just how thick the connection is, between meat and human cancer and sicknesses, just go take a glimpse for yourself. Go and type "Meat throat cancer" into google. "Meat Colon Cancer". Look it up. Don't take Peta's or anyone elses word for it, go look for yourself: "Meat Pancreatic Cancer". Go right now and put "Meat Diabetes" into search anywhere you want and see what comes up. You'll be surprised. Consider it.

•  NEWS: "BACON LINKED TO CANCER OF THE ANUS" What you're missing is simply a combination of the generic tastes of something salty, the texture of anything crisp, plus fat. Research: "Eating just one sausage or three slices of bacon a day, about 1.8 ounces, may increase the risk of bowel cancer, health organizations have warned." "Scientists say the safest amount of processed meat, which also includes lunch meat, to eat is NONE at all, it is reported by the U.K.'s Daily Record." Now...how much do you 'miss bacon', which is now shown to end up leading to anus-cancer. Miss it? Just think of the smell of cancer of the anus. Keep to your original good healthy stuff and keep doing what you're doing.

• Paul wrote: "I am a member of PETA ... People Eating Tasty Animals ... 8-D" PROVE IT. For 1 year, eat only raw uncooked meat. You just wrote "Tasty Animals", which means you just claimed that animals are tasty in their natural state, and you eat it. So prove it. Eat nothing other than meat, from animals, in its natural state, which means unflavored, no seasonings(from plants), no salt & pepper, no barbeque sauces (from plants), no ketchup, no buns, no onion, no A-1 steak sauces, no worcestershire sauces, no jalapenos, no cheeses, no grilling (flavor comes from wood, a plant), no coatings, breading, etc. Otherwise, you accept that virtually everything in things that make them Tasty is due to vegans. Herbs, Seasonings, Spices, BBQ, sauces, etc are all flavorings whose source is vegetarian or vegan. So for you to prove what you just wrote, you need to eat uncooked, unseasoned, raw, cold pieces of organs, liver, meat, and uncooked skin. Get a video camera and document yourself for 1 year, eating nothing but raw plain uncooked meat out of the package. Prove it. Interested to see how that works out. Bet says 10 to 1 he won't do it, will come up with excuses, say it was just a joke, etc, and will back out. Let's see as he backs out.

• ChrisU wrote: "give them a booth between the Midway freak shows."--Oh, so you mean like the FREAK SHOW where a guy eats meat, eats the head off a chicken. Known technically in circus-freak lingo as a "Geek". Aha. Good call on bringing up that Eating an Animal is what's most regarded by people as consisting of a Freak Show. Look it up. The word "geek" originated as someone in a circus who ate the heads off animals in a Freak Show. A behavior that people regard as being committed only by someone who is a Freak.

• False. Observations confirm that carnivores in the wild miss, more often than they succeed. In fact, a meat eating animal hunting has a failure rate of upwards of 90%. This is exemplified for example, in a cheetah, which manages from 1 out of 10, to as few as 3 out of a whopping 100 attempts to snare some prey. And the herbivore gazelle which can run nearly as fast, won 90+ percent of the time. By this measure, the meat-eating carnivore is a 90+% Failure. Also note that those that eat other animals are called "Predators", in the true sense of the word. These are often adults who purposely try to attack those that are weaker, including children. The meat eater often chases down and kills newborns and the babies. Hence the word predator. As for yummy, meat in its natural state tastes horrible, to humans. This can be easily shown by a meat eater putting seasonings, herbs, spices, and barbeque sauces onto meat before eating it. In other words, a meat eater admits every day that meat tastes bad and insufficient, and verifies that vegan plant items are needed to make it taste better. Any person seen putting Barbeque sauce onto meat is proving that meat by itself doesn't taste good, and sauce, made from tomatoes, spices, etc which are all vegan, are needed to make it taste good. Anyone seen bragging about Barbequed Steak also admits vegan items taste better. They're putting meat onto charcoal. Charcoal comes from wood. Wood is a plant. Plants are vegan. Barbequeers admit that meat is insufficient in itself, and the great taste of barbeque is because of the flavor coming from plants. That's Hickory charcoal, hickory smoked flavors used to primp up the bland taste of sausage, and Mesquite, yet another result showing that virtually all the best tastes in the world come from plants. Not meat. Anyone found bragging about KFC admits vegan items taste better than meat. Huh? How? Because KFC is either grilled (wood), or breaded (made from plants), and to top it all off, that great delectable smell is from the "Colonel's Secret Recipe of 11 herbs and spices!" Herbs are from plants. Spices are from plants. The entire claim to fame of these chicken places is not 11 varieties of chicken meat! It's all about the flavor owed to vegans-plants. From eaters of steak using A-1 steak sauce, to eaters of hamburgers needing a bun, onion inside the patty itself, salt & pepper, etc, it all shows that the meat itself does not taste 'yummy' and meat eaters themselves need vegan things before it's even regarded as anything anyone wants to eat. Also... Humans need to "cook" red meat before they consider it eligible to be edible. No other animal cooks its meat before eating it. You don't see actual lions wearing lacey aprons standing around a barbeque grill like men. Thus, this shows that meat-eating is unnatural. Natural is defined as something primarily seen in Nature. Something that is only done by man is called "Artificial". Animals don't cook. Therefore, every instance of eating cooked meat in a meat diet is Un-Natural, by definition. Meat in its true natural state is uncooked. Raw. And with no salt, and unseasoned. For example, eating the meat uncooked directly out of that yellow-styrofoam package at the supermarket.  Or, the taste of a raw flappy piece of bacon, cold, uncooked, out of the package. Or biting into the skull of a cat, and eating the teeth, eyes, and getting all the hair and fur balls in your mouth as you digest it. Or, roadkill, rotten discarded carcass full of maggots. That's what the natural taste of meat is, in its natural state. . Try seeing if the majority of humans across the population consider that delectable. Try it! Prove that humans naturally crave meat and it tastes great in its natural form. Without any seasonings, sauces, spices, salt, and without being cooked. Offer up some strips of cold flappy bacon to your daughter, if you're right, that should be the most delectable thing ever! Serve some season-less raw meat to your wife, or son, or mother-in-law. Have a party and offer it up. See how that works out. Hey, if meat is 'yummy' then it should be a huge hit, people scrambling voraciously for it, and for the blood. No one should be heard going "Eww" or "WTF?". This should be natural. See what happens. No one should be repulsed by it or even averse. Otherwise, you've just demonstrated that most of the delicious tastes around the world are owed to vegans. Try it.

• ts burped: "I prefer to eat my animals after they've been grass feed and allowed to run free on the range, then I treat them like garbage" NEWS: "GRASS-FED BEEF FOUND TO CONTAIN CLASS1 CARCINOGEN & FEMALE SEX HORMONES" ALL Meat, when cooked, including grass-fed, organic, free-range, unprocessed, hormone-free, and locally produced has been found to contain effeminizing hormones and has been linked to rectal cancer. "PhIP, a carcinogen that has a potent hormonal alter-ego. It can mimic the biological activity of estrogen, the primary female sex hormone." All meat when cooked produces a compund called Heterocyclic Amines. Sorry vegans! You can't get it. It's only produced by Meat and Animal Products. No amount of cooking, grilling, barbequing, or burning, will create heterocyclic amines in plants or vegetables. Only meat eaters can have this. Heterocyclic Amines are classified as a CLASS 1 Carcinogen. And 1 specific one called PHIP, in meat, has the effect on male tissue the same as ladies' estrogen. Male meat-eaters who love sausage, grilling, and are Barbequeers, ingest not only this compound in meat which can net them cancer on the rear-end, but men who are lovers of sausage and mouth-watering meat also get a little feminized along the way. PHIP in steak gradually effeminizes a man's tissues. It's analogous to a man nibbling at a woman's birth control pill. Those "juices" dripping out of every bite of "big juicy steak" are soaked with compounds similar to ladies' menstrual fluid. Didn't know this? Don't believe it? Go look for yourself: Put this into Google search: "TROUBLING MEATY ESTROGEN" - just like that, put that into search and go look what it says. http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/9018/title/Food_for_Thought__Troubling_Meaty_Estrogen "Researchers find that a chemical that forms in cooked meat, especially charred portions, is a potent mimic of estrogen, the primary female sex hormone". Oops! ts. This might be a very emotional time for you. You may need some alone time. Also, the point here, is that this is in ALL meat. It does not matter if it's grass fed. If you were hoping to avoid hormones, chemicals, and recombinant BOVINE GROWTH HORMONE by saying you eat grass fed meat...oops! Turns out grassfed meat contains it. This even applies to organic beef. This also applies to steak. And it's not just processed meat, this is unprocessed meat, dripping with female hormones. It doesn't matter if you think you killed it ethically, humanely, or let it run free. It'll still give you cancer of the butt, and you can't runaway from the finding that eating meat which contains PHIP can make a man over time grow more and more effeminized. OOPS, SO MUCH FOR GRASS FED MEAT.

• THE "IF IT HAPPENS IN NATURE ITS OK" ARGUMENT - LONG DEBUNKED. Bob questioned: "So it's OK for non-human animals to eat other animals, but it is not OK for human animals to eat other animals?" - Lions kill and eat their own young. Therefore, according to the logic of Bob, a man who kills and eats his own child should not be tried, but celebrated! Bob would hence argue in defense of the child eater: "It's ok for lions to eat their young? but it is not OK for human animals to eat their own young??" Sorry, but BOB posted a long-flawed argument that has been debunked for quite some time. It's known as a logical fallacy, and cannot be used. If you ever see anyone post this line, simply use the above information to post against them, and that argument is debunked. Mind you, this one is debunked even before the fact that meat has been linked to human death, and that Bob's pitching for that. You see, Bob maybe has not seen yet, that science has shown that doing what he just said is linked to all-cause death. Here's the News... 1. NEWS: "Eating Red And Processed Meat Associated With Increased Risk Of Death" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090323161109.htm "March 24, 2009 — Individuals who eat more red meat and processed meat appear to have a modestly increased risk of death from all causes and also from cancer." 2. "Dietary Fat in Meat Linked To Human Pancreatic Cancer" - SCIENCEDAILY "June 27, 2009 — High intake of dietary fats from red meat and dairy products was associated with an increased risk of pancreatic cancer." 3. DATA: "Vegetable Diet May Reduce Risk Of Prostate Cancer" "June 4, 2009 — Results show that a diet low in fat and LOW in red meat but high in fruits and vegetables is beneficial in the prevention of prostate cancer." 4. Charred Meat May Increase Risk Of Pancreatic Cancer - SCIENCE "April 22, 2009 — Meat cooked at high temperatures to the point of burning and charring may increase the risk of pancreatic cancer" 5. Diet Affects Diversity Of Microbes In Human Gut, And In Turn, Colon Cancer Risk - STUDY "April 2, 2009 — A typical Western diet, rich in meat and fats and low in complex carbohydrates, is a recipe for colon cancer" 6. Retail Meat Linked to Urinary Tract Infections: Strong New Evidence - RESEARCH January 21, 2010 — Chicken sold in supermarkets, restaurants and other outlets may place young women at risk of urinary tract infections, researchers have discovered. 7. "Vegetarians less likely to develop cancer than meat eaters" - THE GUARDIAN "Meat now shown linked to Blood-cancer and childhood Leukemia" 8. "Diet rich in red meat doubles breast cancer risk" - UK NEWS "Red Meat now shown associated with double the human risk of contracting Breast Cancer." 9. BBC NEWS | Health | "Red meat cancer risk" "Eating lots of red meat is linked with human DNA damage which raises the risk of bowel cancer" 10. "Red meat increases risk of death from cancer" - The Globe and Mail "In contrast, those who ate less red meat have a decreased risk of dying, and in particular of dying from cancer" 11. ACS :: Eating Lots of Red Meat Linked to Colon Cancer - AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY "People who eat a lot of red meat or processed meats may be raising their risk for colon cancer." -American Cancer Society [Sorry, none of these are from Peta, so anyone just about to tip up out of your seat to reply with that, you can remain seated. This is from science, medical research, and such experts as the American Cancer Society. You can't go around claiming it's from Peta.] Also, nevermind all replies like "everything causes it"(false), "you're gonna die anyway enjoy things and live it up"(debunked), "(some) nutrient in meat is required"(nope), etc. Those have all been debunked already, so you can save yourself the time. Here's an example: "everything causes cancer"(nope) -As you see in #3: 3. DATA: "Vegetable Diet May Reduce Risk Of Prostate Cancer" "June 4, 2009 — Results show that a diet low in fat and LOW in red meat but high in fruits and vegetables is beneficial in the prevention of prostate cancer." Another Example: "you're gonna die anyway enjoy things and live it up"(debunked) -First, that's not what happens. You (falsely) think you're going to enjoy life then pop dead, no, this is the 21st century, with modern medicine. You know what happens? You REMAIN ALIVE. You don't drop dead, you are kept alive, year after year, but now, you are in a wheelchair, with a colostomy bag carrying your own feces and urine because a piece of your colon had to be cut out, you can't breath, you will be carrying oxygen tanks around with you for the next decades, you have diabetes and now cant eat what you want anyway, for 10 to 20 years, now your leg needs to be amputated due to diabetes, your wife dies from eating meat, you sit alone. - Next, if you actually believed the logic that it's ok to just do anything, live it up, ingest things and do things that will net you diseases because they are "fun" now, and you'll die anyway, then by your own logic, you would find it ok to do Heroin. Why not. They say its fun. And by the logic of you'll die anyway, why deprive yourself, and your kids. You  feed these things that can harm your kids to them and find that ok, so by this logic why would you not get your own kids hooked on heroin too. Why deprive them of the "fun", afterall, according to this "enjoy it" philosophy, they'll die eventually anyway, so why not. And then why not have risky sex and maybe get AIDS? You've already decided to ignore the scientific confirmation that these other things can infect you with diseases, and you still do it, because you don't want to deprive yourself of the "joy" of it, so by this logic, you'd also go out and have risky sex. A meat-eater espousing this "you die anyway so why not have fun" would even cheer for same-sex. Afterall, the logic here is why deprive yourself? And you're gonna die anyway, right? So why not. -- As you see, this is the meat-eater philosophy. This is the opposite of what those saying to eat healthy and eat vegetables are saying. Peta etc would be hoping for humans to be and stay healthy. The opposite of eating animal products found linked to throat cancer. Anyway, Bob's ok here, he probably just wasn't aware of the sheer gravity of the medical evidence here and just how authoritative the scientific health evidence is and the link between meat and human DNA damage. He was probably just thinking that it's all just about unicorns and rainbows and faeries depriving him of his meat, not that it could affect the health of his kids. But this is easy, simply look it up. Yourself. Type "Meat Cancer" into google and look what comes up. Take a look. Go put "Meat Diabetes" and do the same thing. Go verify it yourself, put "Barbequed Meat Cancer" and look at the evidence. Now look at your child. And think about it.

• wow! I had heard about how righteous vegans and Peta fans were but this is the first I've seen it in the wild.  I will proudly wear the accusation you have made against me. The funny thing is no one, not a single person so far has been able to refute the official reports filed by PETA with the Commonwealth of Virginia regarding how many animals PETA has killed over the years. Instead they have focused their ire on the group that has posted official government information. So is the information in the reports filed by PETA inaccurate? If no then isn't PETA being hypocritical when they attack legitimate businesses? Or is this a case of do as I say not as I do? If the information is inaccurate then did PETA commit perjury by lying to a government agency and if they lied why did they do it?

• what problem do you have with the term "vegan agenda?" Serious question here.

• Notice to all viewers: The user "pak152" has just been caught posting material from an anti-american frontgroup. This extremist radical group, identified as the CCF, puts up websites meant to advocate things linked to causing human death. The CCF has been cited by the United States of America for funding involved in IRS Tax Fraud, cheering drunk drivers who have killed american citizens, and cheering people to eat more meat after things like ecoli infected and killed 17 american children, and duping american citizens who think they are being patriotic, to fight for such things as eating methylmercury contaminated toxic fish, cigarettes, and 'the right to smoke', which lead to things like american children being born with horrible birth defects, fetuses with stunted brain growth, and stomach cancer. If you EVER see any user post links to such things as "petakillsanimals" (dot com), that site has been traced back to an anti-american frontgroup, and that user is either duped, or knows it and is intentionally trying to dupe you too. Dont get them wrong, they utilize anti-american techniques that appear believable, and often concocted to appear as the truth until they are found out. ICANN has now stripped this CCF petakillsanimals group of several of their over 60-such and counting scam website domains, but the ones advocating cigarettes, petakillsanimals, duping people into believing contaminated fish is safe for pregnant women, drunk driving, etc all remain up as authorities try to obtain further evidence against them. Don't underestimate them. Just like those trying to cause harm to the United States, they are tricky. Let's take examine what this sole user tried to write: "Unfortunately the press doesn't ever really question PETA they tend to accept the at face value. focusing on the website that opposes PETA and accusing them of being unethical and biased ignores the fact that the information they present is valid. You're shooting the messenger"-What they just tried to get you in on, was telling you that no one ever questions Peta. (Ironic, since this is all over the media, in fact this very article YOU are reading right now is questioning peta!) But don't let this user's incorrect facts get in the way, next this user insists that while you should be questioning others, you should NOT question HIS CCF front organization. (hypocrite). And wants you to just take HIS anti-american groups info which has been cited by the US as fraud, as fact. Following this Pak user's logic, he would practically believe that as long as it was right, he would find no problem posting links to, and information put up on an AL QAEDA terorist site. He just advocated this, saying to ignore that other user pointing out the CCF as non-credible, and trying to get you to believe it does not matter who owns the site. So he'd be fine with posting links to Al Qaeda sites if he thought something on it happened to be right. Next is the piece he tried to dupe you with, that beats it all in hypocrisy. HE actually tried the "dont shoot the messenger" line here, while associated with the CCF! Now, in case you don't know this, the CCF front group is headed by an anti-american named "Berman". Berman is the groups leader and has actually issued a list of Propaganda topics to use against americans in order to debunk them and trick americans. 1 of the very tactics that this propaganda minister Berman heralded was TO ATTACK THE MESSENGER! In fact, the leader of the CCF is quoted as admitting it as something HE does instead of letting americans see the facts. HERE IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE CCF: "In a 1999 interview.. Berman explained .. that he attacks activists more aggressively than other lobbyists. "We always have a knife in our teeth," he said. Since activists "drive consumer behavior on meat, alcohol, fat, sugar, tobacco and caffeine," his strategy is "to shoot the messenger.... We've got to attack their credibility as spokespersons." [2] -DIRECT QUOTE FROM BERMAN of the Front Group ConsumerFreedom admitting the very tactic he uses is to attack americans and simply 'shoot the messenger'. So get this.. This user, "pak152" has just tried to dupe all of you here, utilizing links to a scam site, traced back to a front group called the CCF, and then pak152 went and tried to tell YOU what to do, and told you YOU should stop shooting the messenger, while at the same time HE just cited a front group whose very leader proclaimed that is his exact tactic! - This exposes pak152 from here on as a fraud attempting to use his own tactics to dupe you and everyone in the United States. And by the way... What is "Pak"? What's "Pak" for? in this user's name? Pakistan? Of course, after mentioning this, the user Pak152 will of course deny it and come up with something else, but watch for this kind of trick by these anti-americans like Pak152. The posting of "Petakillsanimals" is now a klaxon fraud alert which, if you ever see anyone post this, is a red flag warning of a sympathizer pegged to a group that is operating tens of anti-american scam sites which advocate things that have been linked to the deaths of american citizens. Watch for it. As soon as someone posts that site, here, or anywhere on the internet, they are ID'd as an advocate applauding the deaths of american citizens.

• Wow!  I really appreciate your neutral, biased tone.  PETA "bitches" (as you assert to deprecate) because it's their focus to do so.  I'm tired of the author's assumed representation of the alleged "majority."  Were more people able to see the source of what they've been eating, the "majority" might undergo some change.  You're a veritable shill!

• NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC: The user identified as "pak152" has just been found attempting to advocate information traced to a known Anti-American front group. Authorities have now confirmed that the domain name "petakillsanimals" is operated by a front group called the "CCF" that publishes misinformation that has been linked to the deaths of American citizens. The internet authority ICANN has now found the CCF operating more than 60+ scam website domains. NEWS: "Bogus (Petakillsanimals) "Consumer Group" Stripped of Domain Names" VIEW IT! - http://www.frontgroups.org/node/351 The CCF (same owner traced to the bogus site petakillsanimals) was charged and ICANN came down with a judgement against the front group Center for Consumer Freedom and revoked several of their scam sites, and dozens more are still operating. Including the group still duping americans with the bogus Petakillsanimals site. Lesser-educated people continue to be duped by it. The "ConsumerFreedom" front group traced to the scamsite Petakillsanimals has been cited for IRS TAX FRAUD against the United States of America and is the subject of an Ethics complaint. The CCF , operators of the scamsite Petakillsanimals, was found by authorities advocating things that lead to the deaths of American citizens. For Example, the CCF came down against Mothers Against Drunk Driving, which helps families who have lost their child. The CCF cheered and came down on the side of the Drunk Driver and pushed for drunk drivers to be able to drink more alcohol. They do this by using lines like "you have the right!" and duping people with lines like "you deserve the choice of what to eat and drink" etc. In this case, they duped multiple american citizens into cheering for the rights of alcoholic drivers who ran down and killed American children, and bad-mouthed the mothers who had just lost their child. Another example, is the CCF puts up a front appearing to cheer for Americans to smoke. This has enabled the CCF to dupe thousands into cheering for cigarettes and tobacco which lead to americans death. The CCF also puts out a line saying things like meat is good when it has now been confirmed to cause cancer. This is why peta is in the crosshairs of this extremist radical CCF frontgroup because Peta is ruining the CCF's ability to spread its advocation of tobacco, meat, and alcohol, and Peta is reducing american deaths. Another line the CCF sneakily uses is to go around saying animal groups, humane society, peta, 'care more about animals' than humans(false). But it turns out, that it's the CCF that cares more about eating animals, than about human death. By this token, Peta is advocating less human disease and sickness, better health and fitness and better human life, helping both humans and animals. Whereas the CCF, by badmouthing american families who've lost their child, cheering for drunks to drink more, cheering for hurting animals, eating meat which can give americans throat cancer, cheering for cigarettes and for americans to smoke which infects humans with tumours and cancer, the CCF is the scam organization which is the culprit in not only hurting animals, but also hurting humans and advocating for human death. NOTE: It doesn't matter if you disagree or agree with eating meat or not, IF you ever see any individual, posting things linked to the CCF or that Petakillsanimals link, that is a confirmed front group which has been traced to over 60+ scam sites all advocating anti-american material, cited by the authorities, and advocating human death. Record the person posting and cheering the Anti-American petakillsanimals and CCF sites, and post the links information above exposing that user trying to advocate things leading to the deaths and harm to American citizens. This applies to anyone caught posting links to the scam site Petakillsanimals or the CCF.

• FINDINGS: BACON LINKED TO CANCER OF THE HUMAN ANUS FOXNEWS: "Eating just one sausage or three slices of bacon a day, about 1.8 ounces, may increase the risk of bowel cancer by a fifth" http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343548,00.html Eating bacon has now been confirmed to lead to Bowel Cancer. This includes one who eats bacon getting cancerous tumour lumps around the sphincter, anus, and up inside the rectum. In addtion to anal cancer, meat such as Bacon, Sausage, smoked hams, brats, pepperoni, etc contain nitrites, linked to Male DNA damage and abnormal brain degradation. "Bacon and ground beef have been linked to dementia." VIEW IT YOURSELF: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18470.cfm Scientists say sodium nitrite, which is added to meat and fish to destroy toxins, reacts with proteins in the meat, damaging human DNA EATING BACON & MEAT MAY RESULT IN DEMENTIA & ANAL CANCER.

• NEWS: "Up to 15% of USDA Certified Chicken Weight is Fecal Soup" (Feces). http://blisstree.com/feel/up-to-15-of-usda-certified-chicken-weight-is-fecal-soup/ "Chickens are bathed in what's called a chill tank, creating a mixture known as fecal soup that spreads contamination from bird to bird. Consumers pay for this fecal soup when they buy chicken, since up to 15% of US poultry weight consists of fecal soup." Anyone who has been eating chicken, has now been confirmed to be ingesting raw chicken feces and urine. Not simply his own, it is now revealed that the user "Angrywhiteguy" has not only been drinking urine, but has been eating other species feces. CHICKEN PROCESSING RESULTS IN FECES BEING ABSORBED.

• How many coupons?

• NEWS: MEAT EATER CHOSE TO FEED ARSENIC TO HIS OWN 4 YR OLD CHILD TX - A reporter for the Dallas Observer recently, named Joe Tone, admitted onine that he would prefer to feed Arsenic to his own 4 year old child. Chicken meat has been confirmed by authorities to contain Arsenic, which he admitted he feeds to his own daughter. TESTS: ARSENIC POISON CONFIRMED IN MAJORITY OF CHICKEN MEAT: The FDA now confirms that chicken may contain Arsenic, a toxic poison. Meat farmers have been putting the arsenic into the chicken feed, which then gets absorbed into the animal. It's used to kill parasitic worms in the chicken, so with it you have arsenic, without it, chicken contains parasitic worm eggs  and larvae. http://www.grist.org/food-safety/2011-06-08-fda-admits-supermarket-chickens-test-positive-for-arsenic Note that unlike applejuice, which was only from china, and only had the harmless organic arsenic type anyway, chicken meat was found to contain the deadly INORGANIC arsenic, and in US American Meat. Feeding a child chicken, now known to contain arsenic, can result in poisoning your own child and damaging the human brain. Science: "Arsenic has been linked to bladder, lung, skin, kidney and colon cancer, while low-level exposures can lead to partial paralysis and diabetes" Didn't know this? Simply put "ARSENIC CHICKEN" into Google and view it for yourself. SCIENCE NEWS: "Roxarsone, the most common arsenic-based additive used in chicken feed, is used to promote growth, kill parasites and improve pigmentation of chicken meat. In its original form, roxarsone is relatively benign. Under certain anaerobic conditions, within live chickens and on farm land, the compound is converted into more toxic forms of inorganic arsenic. Arsenic has been linked to bladder, lung, skin, kidney and colon cancer, while low-level exposures can lead to partial paralysis and diabetes" The reporter identified as "Joe Tone", admitted, in a piece where he believed he was putting down others, and deriding Peta, and bragging of showing them, that he'd rather have his own 4 year old child eat chicken, known to contain arsenic, than have the child see a mccartney film and learn to eat healthy. The Reporter quipped about poisoning his own child prophetically: "the chicken wings are to die for." TESTS & THE FDA CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF POISONOUS ARSENIC IN CHICKEN

• Yes, India has it all figured out. I sure wish we were India.  Nothing better than having a cow shit on the sidewalk you are walking down. Ghandi's comment was not for animal rights, which they have none, but for the rights of the people who had been reborn as those animals.  If you are into that, then knock yourself out, but we in America mostly believe that our lives will actually improve after death, or at the very least cease to exist all together.  I can't think of a scenario where becoming a shitzu is an improvement over being at the top of the food chain.

• Scarlet needs big meat. 

• This is America; the fair is free to ban, or at least muzzle, anyone they want!

• Vegan Agenda? You mean protecting animals and people at the same time from big business interests? Okay... I guess that is the Vegan Agenda. I'm sorry that you have been tricked by the Big Meat Industry's agenda who only promotes self interest and their own wallets. 

• I would like to go to the fair and not see hundreds of people devouring murdered animals, but I have to see that if I want to go enjoy the rest of the fair. I do not see why it is any different for Joe Tone and his 4 year old friend to go to the fair and see a PETA booth... I guess we shouldn't educate our children on the horrors of the meat industry. Keep shoveling that meat into your mouth and enjoy your coronary heart disease. 

• If god didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

• But he almost never loses to those yummy critters.

• The PETA booth would belong in the freak show.

• Yeah, she probably show off her "meat" for money.

• Animals are sooooooooooooooooo yummy.

• No, no, no!  You are supposed to chain the legs apart, not together!

• misspelling due to bifocals should be snarky. you assume that those who raise animals for food don't want to treat the animals well. remember they are raising a product. that doesn't mean that there are a few who do mistreat animals, but PETA and HSUS for that matter tarbrush all as not wanting to treat the animals well. Unfortunately the press doesn't ever really question PETA they tend to accept the at face value. focusing on the website that opposes PETA and accusing them of being unethical and biased ignores the fact that the information they present is valid. You're shooting the messenger

• Yee haw, Cletus.

• Fuck PETA, I'm going to Whataburger. Sure I may live a couple of years less than a vegan, but at least i'll die a happy man. Oh....and fuck Obama.

• uh,,,,,,,it's Gandhi, not Ghandi. And i believe he drank his own piss, so fuck that whole "greatness of a nation" bullshit.

• Pretty sure that chick's already tried the Lodge. And worse.

• Chicken drop. 5 dollar. You buy now. Chicken drop start soon.

• Of course Gandhi was never wrong about anything.

• When an animal eats another animal, it's something of a fair deal. One hunter, another hunted. No tools. No weapons. The hunter doesn't always win.

• So what you're saying is that we're keeping reality out of the public's eye, and preserving corporate induced ignorance. This is exactly what Occupy Wall St. and by extension, Occupy Dallas are all about.  Wake up, America.

• I like meat. I eat meat. I would prefer we go about raising our food in a humane way, and slaughter it in a humane way. As the inhabitants of the top of the food chain, we have a moral responsibility to do what is in our power to minimize any suffering our need for food causes our food. There's no reason for torturous treatment. We have the ability to raise animals in a way that allows them to live comfortably, and we can treat them with dignity to feed ourselves.

• Fair point. as I said below not looking to change anyones habits just have them be aware of where it comes from. having said that, the High life is kicking in & I think I should probably sign off before I start posting every spellin mstake

• I prefer to eat my animals after they've been grass feed and allowed to run free on the range, then I treat them like garbage by eating them dumbass.

• Ahh but we don't belong to that part of the food chain dumbass.We like our animals pumped full of anti_biotics,growth hormone ,kept in unsanitary& downright fucked up conditions until we kill 'em & eat 'em.

• Consuming an animal could be considered the highest form of treating them like garbage, you know, considering the final outcome and all.  Does the antelope think the lion treated him fairly as he pounced on him?  That's the way the food chain go.

• Not lookin to change anyones eating habits,but for Dog's sake people do some research into where your food comes from & how it's treated. There are plenty of vendors down at the Farmers market that actually care. P.S. I am not a member of PETA , i just actually started to give a shit (Man do i ever miss Bacon..........)

• I believe they only support free-range abortions.

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