Eight Outta 15 Council Members Like This Map, Which Caraway Says Still Needs "Tweaking."

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Another redistricting post, I know. Settle down. But this one's especially interesting: Dwaine Caraway, Tennell Atkins and Carolyn Davis have made it very clear that whatever the redistricting map ends up looking like, they want four "winnable" African-American districts. At last week's forum, that was also important to the majority of the audience, and something Mayor Rawlings said he supported as well.

But the three city council members behind the African American Committee for Fair Representation have now signed on to this new "combination" map you see here, which was originally proposed by council members Delia Jasso, Scott Griggs, Monica Alonzo, Linda Koop and Ann Margolin. It's only got three majority African-American districts: 4, 7 and 8. What gives, guys?

Messages have been left for Davis and Atkins, but we spoke briefly this afternoon with Caraway, who told us that this map does provide a "winnable opportunity," though it still needs work, as far as he's concerned.

"Let me be real clear," he said. "I'm not supporting three African-American seats. I'm supporting four winnable seats. It's not fair for folks to think that Atkins and I are supporting only three African-American seats. We have been on the lead pushing for four winnable African-American seats."

He suggested that districts that don't have a majority African-American voting age population might still make an acceptable fourth seat. "The perception people have of certain maps are not quite accurate nor factual," he said. "Unless and until you get out into the real fine print of it. It may look one way, but still may be winnable from another perspective.

"I want to make sure we understand: This map still has the need for additional tweaking. I want to say that and be real clear. It still has the need for additional tweaking. At this point."

The deadline to submit a final map to the Department of Justice is only two weeks away. Looks like the city council is planning on tweaking until they can tweak no further.
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Hasanmary
Hasanmary

I said from the beginning that the Justice Dept would probably end up drawing the map and if they do, I personnally feel that the Hispanics and blacks will be in for a rude awakening.  I doubt that District 2 3, 6, 7, 8,or 14  will be drawn like it is.

Dallas Diner
Dallas Diner

This is at least better than the mayor's plan, the sole purpose of which seemed to be to politically neuter Oak Cliff.  Under his plan the neighborhoods in the Old Oak Cliff Conservation League, the "home tour" neighborhoods, were split up among five council districts.

Cliff Dweller
Cliff Dweller

Just to be clear, the Old Oak Cliff Conservation League has no problem with that.  We currently have neighborhoods in four different Council districts and are happy to work with whoever represents our member neighborhoods. Our only concerns are when neighborhoods have expressed a specific preference (only a few did) and that individual neighborhoods are not split.

Oso Blanco
Oso Blanco

Can someone explain how this map for District 14 meets standards of compactness and commonality?

Mike
Mike

District 2 and Park Cities define District 14. Diistrict 2 has design so the Medrano family will win it. Drive NW up Harry Hines/Maple, then east on Ross and then take a bike ride on Santa Fe Trail and you will see how they linked up the Hispanic neighborhoods. Park Cities are the immovable objects. District 14 is what is left.

Bpl7
Bpl7

All this focus on the blacks and Hispanics but zero focus on why the whites had the biggest declines but they give up no seats in north Dallas. I'm sure the lack of focus in the media is so they can maintain status quo.

md
md

Apparently the minorities on the north side see no need to change what works. Especially if it means adopting the way things work on the south side of town.

Mike
Mike

Any minority voters thrown in that direction would likely be wasted and be less to throw into the southern battle. Whites live in defined contiguous areas and dominate those areas. Blacks and Hispanics live all over the non-white areas and intermingle. Consequently you end up with these weird districts to link up pockets of your type. Additionally you do not want white voters because they vote above city average. Most southern districts have about 10 per cent participation. If you bring a large group of white voters to a minority district, they could upset everyone's calculations.

While the law looks at where people live, the more important calculation is how many regularly vote.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I guess that's what I don't understand either. 

Bpl7
Bpl7

Keep minorities distracted and fighting over crumbs...maintain power.

Americano
Americano

Why don't we just have a lottery, pick 4 Black people at random, and give them a seat on the council?  Or just make a Black person King of Dallas?  Surely that would right all the wrongs of the past, wouldn't it?  Perhaps we could just not allow White people to vote?  Come on people, are we going to do this reparations thing or aren't we?

KP
KP

So, the cool kids refer to gerrymandering as "tweaking" these days?

Chris Danger
Chris Danger

If you think CarriedAway, Atkins and Davis are cool kids, then i'm guessing so...One failed (temp) mayor and two other morons that are way beyond their council expiration date, time to clear out the garbage and bring in people who actually care about their neighborhoods..

Hasanmary
Hasanmary

I always heard that it takes one to know one.  So you must be a moron too.  I don't have a problem with people having a difference of opinion but name calling is not necessary and can come back to haunt you.  I really hope you are not planning on running for council.

Bpl7
Bpl7

Kind of like your one note act is past its date. And your councilperson is one of two that have been silent..

You do realize 8 council members submitted that map, right?

BCulbreath
BCulbreath

If the census is correct, and Dallas lost Black population to South Dallas County suburbs.Time should be spent on making City staff improve quality of life for residents.Families who move to Cedar Hill from South West Oak Cliff do so for larger custom built house. How do you justify 4 Black seats if we don't earn them the right way.If this was an exercise to eliminate Hill what about the remainder of us.I moved in my house 26 years ago and it was in Dr.Charles Tandy's district 3.Without a shot fired Mexicans have taken back Texas and I again live in district 3.Dr.Tandy served us well,Westmoreland exit from HWY 67 would not have happen if not for Charles Tandy and from what I heard Scott Griggs ask hard important questions,like why did we pay 400,000 in 2007 for study of DFD that recommended additional equipment and now being told one had not been done in 25 years so we are taking trucks out of service.If elected people are not going to work for people who sent them by vote downtown we need to vote on Strong Mayor again.Tom Leppert was strong Mayor without election Mike Rawlings will not be another Tom.

Chris Danger
Chris Danger

Betty, eventhough you ramble quite often, this post makes sense. Its time Dallas brought in a strong mayor-type of government, one w/ a council who doesnt have the ultimate decision-making power. Thats the problem w/ Dallas city government in the 21st century, 14 people want to run the show and none of them have the common sense to do so..

Scrotex
Scrotex

Betty AND Chris are both correct and they agree?

Hell, I'm buying a lotto ticket today.

Bpl7
Bpl7

Really Kessler park should be in district one but they won't do it. Still a black person can win that seat

Chris Danger
Chris Danger

I find it interesting that Atkins and CarriedAway are trying to hold onto a seat that really shouldnt be even theirs. When will the people vote dummies like these two out of office??

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