Before He Sipped the Tea, Rick Perry Had a Much Different Take on Voting

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The old Rick Perry -- back before he discovered the Tea Party -- would have swept into Dallas on a white horse shootin' his Ruger and kickin' up dust to defend the embattled Medrano family, accused of faking a family member's voter residency in a justice of the peace election. In fact, I just wonder. Does the Tea Party even know about the old Perry?

The standing interpretation of the law on voter residency in Texas comes from a Texas secretary of state's opinion in 2004 that Governor Perry requested after a rogue district attorney in Waller County tried to ban students at predominantly black Prairie View A&M University from voting in local elections.

The secretary of state is the state's highest election official. Perry said in a letter to him: "I want to ensure that all Texas residents, including those students at Prairie View A&M University, have the opportunity to properly exercise their fundamental right to vote in elections."

That's what I'm talkin' about! Rick Perry, the liberal! Where'd he go?

The opinion that ensued from then Secretary of State Geoffrey S. Connor found that a person's legal residence for voting purposes is pretty much wherever that person says it is at that moment in time. The secretary of state, a Republican back before Republicans went brown-shirt, cited Texas law and a raft of federal cases to show that it's against the law to even question people much beyond what they put down on their voter registration application.

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Look who's the subject of this week's Time cover story.
Officials cannot demand that a voter fill out a questionnaire. They cannot enact local rules about what it takes to be a local resident.

If you say you intend to reside in a certain place, and if you are physically present in that place when you say it, then you're a resident for the purposes of election law, the opinion said. Except that you can also do it by mail.

"In particular," the opinion states, "no Texas county voter registrar may require an affidavit or questionnaire in addition to the information required on the application for a voter registration certificate. A person who has reached the age of majority is presumed able to make a factual statement about his or her voting residence. Moreover, the student is presumed to be in the best position to make such factual statements about the residence of the student. In addition, Texas law does not require a statement of durational future residence. These principles apply equally to college students as well as other voters, and no more can be required of them in order for them to register and vote in the state of Texas."

So what the hell? A person's residence for voting purposes is sort of like a person's so-called racial identity. It's what you say it is. And anyway, who cares?

As former Dallas County Elections director Bruce Sherbet pointed out to me last week, the big one, the big no-no according to the law, is voting more than once in an election. That's a major problem. Maybe you should go to jail for that one. Otherwise, you are free to cast your ballot.

The Medranos, a local Chicano clan with a history of political involvement, were described in The Dallas Morning News Sunday as a "dynasty." I never hear The News calling rich white people "dynasties," like the Hunts or, for that matter, the Decherd-Moroney-Dealeys who own the newspaper. I think in this case "dynasty" means Mexicans who own rent houses.

In the Medrano matter, a headline-hunting Republican Texas attorney general has gone to a grand jury in an ultra-conservative majority-white Republican enclave community outside Dallas and won indictments against seven Medranos. The charges are based mainly on the word of one young adult family member.

Apparently Veronica Medrano, age 19 at the time of the events in question, told a Rockwall County grand jury that her uncle Carlos Medrano forced her to register at a fake address in order to vote for him in his narrow election victory over incumbent Justice of the Peace Luis Sepulveda in a 2010 Democratic primary election.

If this business ever gets to court, there may be a lot of very sad testimony about the relationship of young Veronica with the rest of the family, but mainly there will be some spirited back and forth over whether she even knows what she intended when she filled out her voter registration application.

The Morning News story Sunday talked about a Medrano election in the late 1980s. The story says of that election: "The News examined a 1987 school board runoff pitting Robert Medrano against Rene Castilla and found evidence that one in four votes were fraudulent in a single precinct within the Medrano power base."

Yeah, yeah. Been there, done that. Guess what. Newspapers do not convict people of crimes. Courts convict. And no court convicted anybody of anything in the 1987 deal. Want to know why? I know why, because I have made the same mistake myself in the past.

Newspaper reporters and newspaper editors can see stuff going on in elections that looks bad to them. Just doesn't look right. Can't be right. But we're often wrong. According to the law it all turns out to be OK.

It's OK because politicians like Perry, back before he decided to go for the tri-cornered hat vote, generally want people to vote. In a democracy, it's a given that the more people who vote, the better, and the best way to get them to vote is to let them vote wherever the hell they want to vote in elections that they personally care about.

That district attorney down in white Waller County west of Houston was trying to keep a bunch of black kids from voting. Pre-Tea Perry jumped on him, saying we should let those kids vote if they want to. In fact, kids voting? We should give them all chocolates and a gold star.

All of that has changed with the Tea Party "Right the Vote" initiatives. I attended a Right the Vote "boot camp" in the suburbs earlier this year: The basic message was that Tea Partiers need to learn the technicalities of voting law so they can keep Mexican-Americans and black people away from the polls.

But the overwhelming thrust of law and court opinion in this country has always been that the right to vote is not a technicality. The law assumes a whole lot of leeway. Call it slop if you want to. In America we have always believed it's better for voting law to be sloppy than for people not to vote because voting law is technically strict. The point is to get people to vote, not keep them from voting.

That's where this Medrano story will go eventually. It's going to become a much bigger story about get-out-the-vote initiatives versus Tea Party white-the-vote campaigns -- American political history and tradition versus Tea Party radicalism. Or, as we might be tempted to put it, the old Rick Perry versus this new guy.

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Perry Moore
Perry Moore

May My Own Personal Higher Power deliver me from the half baked, over-reaching, blatantly slanted, downright viscious crap that I read in these posts. I got through Mr. Shutze's entire piece, but I couldn't make it through twenty of the vile comments that followed. And you pop-offs wonder why political scientists and philosophers refuse to discuss social issues with you. Like fishing in a sewer.

mynameisURL
mynameisURL

You might be interested in a product called "Preparation H" for all of that butt-hurt.

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

now i think you've got it. congrats...

Jeneheffer
Jeneheffer

Screw the laws of the state, let anyone vote and vote often I say as long as it benefits the political party of my choice. Hey that sounds right!

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

and i'll bet you are a heffer too..

DaliQuama
DaliQuama

You know, this thread was so much less insightful, until you came in and dropped your ingenious 20, or so, post. Now, we have all the answers, thanks for clearing it all up for us, oh wise one. 

replay
replay

......and hurt all Americans in the process.

Jon_Herring
Jon_Herring

Your neutral stance is a lazy one. Do your homework on which party represents your best interest and pick a side. Landslide Democrats for me. 

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

actually, doing homework is lazy. so do everyone a favor and go find some pussy...

MattL1
MattL1

Exactly half of you morons are wrong.  Take THAT!

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

take that? but i really don't care for robbie williams...

Marvin
Marvin

"her uncle Carlos Medrano forced her to register at a fake address"Doesn't your defense, that people should be able to vote where they want,  miss the part where she says she was forced.

Guest
Guest

Not a fan of that part, either.

Personally, I think everybody should vote where they live (with very limited and well-defined exceptions), but I also believe that white Republicans who cheat the system should also be subject to indictment, too.

Downtown_er
Downtown_er

Great Point!!! 

Also, where was the "INTENT" the defenders are clinging to???

Jay
Jay

It was the INTENT not to get caught.

JimS
JimS

I was talking about those fishing shirts with all the pockets and the vents in the back. Wow, talk about touchy.

heart and soul
heart and soul

A homeless person can claim a street corner or a business as a residence and vote using that address as long as they live in the county, are a US citizen, not a felon and not crazy.

Jim is right. Residence in the past has been all based on intent.

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

i think that goes for your local cemetery as well...

Guest
Guest

When did "not crazy" get added to the list of requirements?

Dave Francis
Dave Francis

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Thisrampant violation of our immigration laws is not an isolated case, as itis a widespread breakdown of the US Government failing to defend Americancitizens. One of the biggest violators is contractors andsub-contractors who are using cheap labor and therefore able to lower theirbids, so established firms cannot compete. This is not just California, but thewhole Southwest to the East coast and has been propagating for years. It's ashame there isn't a website that describes stories exactly like this, relatingto businesses using illegal immigrants and migrants; jobs that could be accomplishedby every occupational American?

 

 

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In a prior job speech by President Obama, he told the national audience, heintends to invigorate more jobs, in rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, byrepairing bridges, roads and schools. The question to ask—how has thisadministration is going to stop the illegal aliens stealing these jobs. Wealready know illegal aliens are being hired at cheaper rates than the averageAmerican; receiving no health or other benefits. We also know that unions arenot interested in who is allowed to work and whose not. Then we have federal,state and private contractors, who will use illegal aliens to underbid honestcompanies. Even this goes even deeper as private contractors, will hiresub-contractors, who will also violate immigration laws by recruiting foreignworkers as what happened in New Orleans, after Hurricane Katrina devastated theregion.

 

On the NumbersUSA website, the whole bill is clarified, and just needenthusiastic voters to bombard the Capitol? Already the same activist suspectsare trying to undermine this urgent bill. One big bare-faced lie is the TEAPARTY opposes this law. What they are not informing you concerning this is justone Tea Party group, The TEA PARTY NATION that is just one of thousands ofindependent entities, as the TEA PARTY  is just  ordinary Americans ,who have been kicked around too long. The majority of TEA PARTY members areadamant there will be no more Amnesties. No clandestine small Amnesties thathave been happening for years, millions entering annually. True TEA PARTYleaders will rescind any Sanctuary City or State policies, with refusal a lossof federal funds.

 

Judicial Chairman Lamar Smith's Legal Workforce Act last Thursdaymorning was marked-up for discussion on mandatory E-Verify.  The LegalWorkforce Act would require national use of E-Verify for all new hires for 100%of businesses within 2 years of enactment. Earlier today, Chairman Smithreintroduced the bill as H.R.2885 with a new subsection that requires theDepartment of Homeland Security to establish a support center for states thatwish to help enforce the law.

 

 

BE A WHISTLE BLOWER ANDHELP YOUR FELLOW AMERICAN TO FIND A JOB.

This piece of information that should be repeated:

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Ifyou are disgusted by the mockery of our immigration laws, reach for that phoneand call you’re Representative at 202-224-3121. Don't wait--this is a verypowerful bill that could help millions of Americans find work, especially inthe lower incomes. When 20 million Americans are jobless, beingonly finding temporary or part time work, this should be not the time forhiring foreign nations.  My commentary cannot possibly cover the wholetravesties perpetrated on Americans, but all evidence of years of failure,unconcern and corruption is available at NumbersUSA, American Patrol andJudicial Watch. There are just three of the hundreds of serious pro-sovereigntyorganization, fighting the open border zealots.

 

 

PublicWarning: In 2012 we need strict oversight of our voting rights? Democrats andliberals tend to look the other way, as illegal aliens may flock into pollingplaces. Illegal aliens have and still do vote in the general elections. A closeeye should be kept on all registration forms that includes Absentee ballotsthat succumb to fraud, ACORN is not dead, just changed its names; they havecommitted registration fraud before and will again.

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replay
replay

When comes the part where we stop thinking of ourselves as Democrats, or Republicans, or Tea Partiers, (or whatever)............and start thinking of ourselves as AMERICANS. That is what seems to be missing from all of these discussions.

Realist
Realist

"Cant we all just get along?" No

Observist
Observist

Yeah, if only those jerks in the other party would stop messing things up for us Americans.

TimCov
TimCov

You mean the "let's do what our corporate paymasters want" party? The one that almost all politicians (whether they have a D or an R after their name) truly belong to.

Phelps
Phelps

Learning the technicalities of the law to keep people from voting twice is akin now to disenfranchising black people?

Fuck you, Schutze.  Fuck your brownshirt bullshit, fuck your ACORN ignoring, fuck everything else you might have to say.  You have sacrificed your integrity for a hit piece, and I'm done listening to you until after the election.

Observist
Observist

We'll miss you Phelps.  Stay classy.

Paul
Paul

Smile when you say that podner ...

Mike3647
Mike3647

It is hard for me to read this after you started by calling me a Nazi.  Yep, the Republicans are the name calling hate mongers here.

But it's funny how you can use Perry's previous support of black students' voting rights to slam him for not coming to the aid of people indicted for felony voter fraud.

These are two totally different topics, but everything comes back to your hatred for the tea party and Republicans.

Phelps
Phelps

It's a hit piece.  Schutze has given up on journalism and punditry, and is just another fucking political thug now.

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

yes, i agree. it's definitely a shit piece..

Paul
Paul

According to the voter registration information on the DALCO elections website:

"I understand that giving false information to procure a voter registration is perjury, and a crime under state and federal law. Conviction of this crime may result in imprisonment up to 180 days, a fine up to $2,000, or both. I affirm that I am a resident of this county and U.S. Citizen; have not been finally convicted of a felony or if a felon I have completed all of my punishment including any term of incarceration, parole, supervision, period of probation, or I have been pardoned; and have not been determined by a final judgment of a court exercising probate jurisdiction to be totally mentally incapacitated or partially mentally incapacitated without the right to vote."

It seems straightforward that putting down a false address on a voter registration form is a problem.

"We're not going to check, but we do expect you to be truthful."

Sorry Jim, putting an address on your voter registration that is not your residence is a problem.

People such as students, active military and politicians are allowed some leeway.

A student can declare his dorm room or apt while going to school as a residence to vote, but that residency cannot be used to qualify for in state tuition at public schools.

heart and soul
heart and soul

I don't see the part where you have to swear that this is your one and only address and that you never, ever, ever sleep anywhere else. You are to swear "affirm" you are a resident of the county and a citizen of the US. that your are not a felon or about to be one and that you are not crazy. Seems like you are trying to read into the law what is not there.

Paul
Paul

You are asked to give the address of your place of residence when you are filling out the voter registration card. You are swearing or affirming that this is true. Please check the DALCO elections website.

It is not that you don't have multiple houses or you will never, ever, sleep anywhere else.

This points out the problem in Dallas County with the vote harvesters.

In Ms. Medrano's situation, she listed her residence as a place that she neither owned nor resided at.  If she owned that house it could be a different story.  In Ms. Medrano's case, I don't think that she ever intended to have a bodily presence in the place where she was registered to vote.

From an on line legal dictionary:

Residence:

"Personal presence at some place of abode.

Although the domicile and residence of a person are usually in the same place, and the two terms are frequently used as if they have the same meaning, they are not synonymous. A person can have two places of residence, such as one in the city and one in the country, but only one domicile. Residence means living in a particular locality, but domicile means living in that locality with the intent to make it a fixed and permanent home. Residence merely requires bodily presence as an inhabitant in a given place, whereas domicile requires bodily presence in that place and also an intention to make it one's permanent home.

This distinction is relevant for members of the military, who may move frequently during the course of a typical career; college students, whose state of domicile may affect whether they are eligible for scholarships and grants from a state university; and retired individuals, whose domicile will determine where they pay taxes. Domicile determines where a person votes and where a person's driver's license is issued."

For most people, residence and domicile are the same thing.  For some people it is different.

hth

Guest
Guest

So, as long as you're a politician or were a politician, you could, for example, use your son's basement as your address even if you never live there and you have other residences. And that would be perfectly okay.

Paul
Paul

Hello Surburban Idiot:

No I did not say that.  I said that they are allowed some leeway, not total disregard for the residency requirements.  The proposition that you are positing is not acceptable.

A congressional representative spends a majority of their time living in the DC, yet are allowed to declare residency in their district.

I went to college in a different state and for almost 2 years, I did not return to Texas, yet I still remained a TX resident and voted absentee in several elections.

A previous politician, in my opinion, does not have the same leeway. 

George W. Bush as VP and later President had a hotel room in Houston as his residence.  After losing to Clinton, he moved to Houston and bought a house.  If he had moved to CT and still kept his residency as a hotel room in Houston, I would have had a problem.

One thing people seem to forget is that, the voter registrar mails out new voter registration cards every two years, with return service.  If you aren't there, it gets returned and that voter is removed from the registration list.  I have had registration cards show up in my mailbox with different names.  I make it a point to take them back to the elections office with an affidavit that those people do not live there.

hth

Paul
Paul

I agree with you on this one

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

surreal, no. surreal would be like dali or something...

Guest
Guest

I guess my problem is that when you have a residence or two or three, you shouldn't be able to simply claim a place where you've never lived and have no intention of living as your address for voting purposes (like Mitt Romney). Or if you're no longer a sitting politician, you shouldn't be able to use the governor's mansion as your official residence for voting purposes even after you're no longer governor (Jon Huntsman). Or if you've purchased another residence "back home" but continue to use a different residence as your residence "back home" (Todd Akin), of if you've moved to New York and bought a condo, you shouldn't be able to use your parent's address in Connecticut as your official address for voting purposes (Ann Coulter).

But you know how many people are seeking indictments against Mitt Romney (the closest parallel to the Medrano case, as far as I can tell) or Jon Huntsman or Todd Akin? None that I know of. And Ann Coulter was cleared of any wrongdoing after an investigation, even though it's pretty clear that she didn't live in Connecticut anymore while she was voting there.

Why these people are above the law and the Medranos aren't is a question that might should be asked.

Paul
Paul

Well heart and soul, if you do not believe that I am credible, then there is not much to discuss.  Moreover, please reread Mr. Perry's statement on this matter when he was the SOS.

The facts in this case will come out in the AG's filings.  Besides, hasn't Ms. Medrano openly admitted to what she did?

I don't believe that she is being held to a different standard.

The question is whether or not the AG is acting impartially or not.  I am of the opinion that the AG and our DA from time to time prosecute selectively based upon their own personal preferences and not always on matters of law or import.

I believe that there needs to be tighter control of verifying voter eligibility.

As I said earlier, I have had voter registration cards show up in my mailbox with different peoples names.

My wife one time mistakenly voted early with my registration card and the clerk completely missed the different last names.

The ability to game the system and stuff the ballot box is incredibly easy.

When a large number of different people are registered at a single family dwelling that has only two bedrooms, how is it possible that there could not be possible fraud involved?

heart and soul
heart and soul

Paul, you voted illegally. I don't believe that SOS told you what you did was acceptable. No way. I believe you got away with it. You were never asked to prove physical presence or your intent.

We don't know the facts in this case and we don't know this woman's mind or intent. Here is what we do know. She is being held to a different standard than other voters.Sorry if you don't get it.

Paul
Paul

Sorry, I don't see the causality between your two statements.

The surreality of the situation is that as SOS Perry defended the right of AA students to register where they are attending college.  His decision at the time also affirmed that a student declaring residency where they are attending college in order to register to vote does not necessarily form the basis for qualifying a student for in state tuition fees.

As I pointed out before domicile and residence are two different things.  They may be the same under a limited set of circumstances.

Jim quoted in his article: "If you say you intend to reside in a certain place, and if you are physically present in that place when you say it, then you're a resident for the purposes of election law, the opinion said."

The problem is that people weren't physically present at the place they said they resided at and it appears to had no intent to do so.  The point is that you do not have to prove the location of your residence when you register to vote; however, you are expected to be truthful in your application.

heart and soul
heart and soul

"Perhaps things have changed since then." Yeah Paul. I think that was Jim's point.  Under Rick Perry if you are brown and your last name is Medrano things have changed.

Paul
Paul

Heart and soul ...

I won't say how many years ago that it was ... but the policy in colleges was "in loco parentis" and the voting age had just been lowered to 18.   I stand by what I said in that I contacted the TX SOS and and the SOS said that it was acceptable.

Perhaps things have changed since then.

It was the first presidential election where I could vote and didn't want to miss it.

heart and soul
heart and soul

You want to show me Texas law that says what you did was legal? I think it should be but apparently the AG thinks not.  There is no clause for out of state students that I have ever seen. Where?

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/ele...

Paul
Paul

No, you are incorrect.  Full time college students are exempt from this part of the residency requirements.

I maintained a domicile in TX and residence in another state.  I never intended to make the state where I was attending college my domicile.  As I stated in my original post, elected officials, active duty military and college students are allowed significant leeway.

I checked with the TX SOS before I requested my absentee ballots and was told that I could vote absentee in TX so long as I had not registered to vote in the state where I was attending college and that I was a full time student.

For example, a resident of the State of Texas who is active military can send their children to state schools at the resident rate regardless of how long they have been gone from Texas so long as they state that they are domiciled in Texas.

Please check on the residency requirements for voting with either the TX SOS or DALCO Elections before you show your lack of knowledge.

hth

heart and soul
heart and soul

Uh Paul, if you say  you "went to college in a different state and for almost 2 years, I did not return to Texas" you voted illegally.  DUH! check Texas residence requirements smart guy and then please turn yourself into the AG. Thank you for your cooperation.

gladnotsad
gladnotsad

Yawn.  It should be clear to anyone who has lived here for more than 1 month that Perry (Al Gore's former Tx. campaign manager - in the 1980's) is a bounder and total political opportunist. The real problem is that we are in trouble whoever gets elected in 2012. It's depressing.

kinda ghey
kinda ghey

not as depressing as your sad-sack...

TimCov
TimCov

As time goes on, I find myself wishing that "none of the above" was a required option on ballots for any office.

Observist
Observist

And if "none of the above" got the most votes, the losing candidates would all have to step down and another election would be held with different candidates.  That's a far better alternative than either not voting or voting for a far-left or far-right whackjob as a "protest vote".

RTGolden
RTGolden

The far-left and far-right whackjobs would be the primary winners of the Republican and Democrat primary elections.

Bill Holston
Bill Holston

reminds me of when I was in college in the 70's, working at a silk screen shop. I was telling all of my co-workers in my best political science major speech, they should vote. I think it was a US Senate election. They said, why, all the candidates are corrupt. I said, you should write in an absurd candidate, at least express your view the system is absurd. 

They came in a few days later, all proud. "Hey bill, we got to thinking, you are right.So, we all wrote you in on the ballot. In those mechanical voting booth days, you could literally write a name on the ballot. I used to do that all the time. 

i think none of the above would see be popular enough to be a party. 

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