M.I.A.: Angela Hunt Goes With the Flow, and Jim Schutze Vows a Rescue

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Angela, I was there. I saw everything. I know what they're doing. I am on my way. One way or another, I will get there, and I will exert myself and do whatever it takes to rescue your husband, even if it means waking up the next morning with extreme muscle soreness. I will not let them get away with this.

I sat through today's council meeting on "flow control" -- the thing where they are going to order all the commercial trash haulers to bring their trucks to the city-owned landfill instead of hauling their trash out of town to cheaper dumps in the suburbs. The city hopes to cop a bunch of extra dumping fees out of this, and if the process turns the landfill into the Mount Shasta of trash, so what? That'll be years from now.

The city figures the same future generation that's supposed to solve the problems of Social Security and the independent state of Palestine can clean up the world's biggest city dump.

I heard Oak Cliff council member Scott Griggs give a great 30-second explanation of why flow control is bullshit. I heard Lakewood council member Sheffie Kadane propose a compromise to study the thing. But then Mayor Mike Rawlings, cackling and rubbing his hands in glee, said it was all about a business deal and all he cared about was the dump money.

Dump money! Dump money! Show me the dump money [horrendous shrieking laughter]! (I paraphrase.) He also said the taxpayers are stupid and don't understand anything. (I paraphrase again.)

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When I heard that, I knew ... I just KNEW ... that you were about to ride in on your Angela Hunt horse and whup up on everybody. Obviously you, the iconic maverick and lone crusader for truth and good, were not going to just sit there like some regular old Dallas City Council member and let the mayor insult the voters that way, not to mention leaving your friend Griggs with his rear end hanging out over the end of the limb without a supporter.

But you were silent! Silent! I kept stretching my neck to look at you, which, by the way, is not my best pose. But I didn't care. I had to see what was wrong.

You were staring at your hands. And then ... oh my God! ... NO! ... NO! ... Yes! ... You voted with the mayor! You were the swing vote, in fact. You single-handedly put flow control over the top.

And that's when the light bulb came on. Of course! I had been so blind. How could I have failed to see it sooner? They have your husband in a basement somewhere bound to a chair and wired up with plastic explosives. Had you so much as lifted a little finger, Paul would have become wallpaper.

I know that's it. It has to be something like that. Otherwise ... well, there's just no explanation otherwise, not one that wouldn't be a pretty big crisis for me. Just thinking about it is already giving me restless leg syndrome.

No, they've got him. I know they do. Nothing less could silence you, let alone make you vote for this. I am on the case, Angela. I shall find Paul, and I shall free him. This is my solemn vow. Then you can get back on your horse. Right?


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Veryupsetwithangela
Veryupsetwithangela

It is great the Angela Hunt fights for her constituents. Too bad she didn't show the same respect to the people who showed up at city hall to protest flow control. I guess their concerns aren't really important to her. This is ward politics at its worst. Angela, you represent the entire city as well as your district. If the councilman from District 8 is to ignorant to help his own constituents then you should have stepped in and at least understood the issue before you cast a significant vote. Your constituents will pay for flow control. The loss of economic development opportunities will impact the whole city. The tiny slush fund won't help the Southern sector. Please return your pay for yesterday's meeting because you did not earn it.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

mark is the one associated degenerate with homosexuality.  Now we know how your thoughts work.

DeGeneres has qualities other than sexual orientation.  But you apparently obsess on one.

Whodunnit
Whodunnit

If they want the trash and the tipping fees, why did they stop half-way? Why don't they expand the sanitation department, run all of the private collection companies out of business, and start picking up ALL the trash? Then, they can charge citizens whatever they want for picking up their trash? Why are they leaving any of this "treasure" to the private sector?

Catbird
Catbird

I sure wish I could get me summa that Dump Money...

Gary
Gary

That Crystal Ball store must be doing quite a business these days.  I must get one so I, too, will know for certain the outcome of each and every decision made.   

Pizzamike
Pizzamike

Rawlings demonstrated he is already a weak mayor who almost lost on the issue. He had been going around the council chambers and offices trying to twist arms in support of his idea the day before the vote. He called in some chits from people he supported for higher positions to win at the expense of the businesses who pay the taxes he is so desperate to receive. This guy makes me miss Tom Leppert. At least he had some real business sense.  Rawling spent too much time close to a pizza oven.   

JimS
JimS

And here's the other thing. We put these people at the table to represent us, and they have to make decisions. They have to do stuff. Day in and day out they have very tough calls to make, and it ain't philosophy class. It may be life and death to me, because I'm on one side the question, but it's life and death to the guy on the other side, too, and no matter what, the council people have to pull the trigger. You can't put people in that position and then imagine that you get to drop the guillotine on them over your own personal question, which is a lot of what I hear from the Woodard people. As voters the call is not, "Has Hunt done every single thing exactly the way I wanted her to?" It's "Even if she pissed me off on flow control, is she still the best person generally speaking, based on character, smarts, and point of view,  for the job?" And you know how I come down on that one. By the way, and I do not mean this as a personal insult to anyone here, but Ayn Rand was a hack writer with a sub-high-school-civics-class comprehension of politics.

Mike
Mike

The vote is basically about the city seizing control over the trash, assessing an added fee that the customers will fund with higher bills, and some idea of how to handle the trash with details to be decided.  The Council is in no way qualified as to what process to use to handle the trash.  If the process selected does not work, then you simply have the haulers stop using the site.  We are not building a plutonium factory there with a single vote despoiling the area for generations.  This decision has lots of opportunity to modify or reverse.  The main points are taking over the trash and creating a pass through fee.  You either agree or disagree. 

Joe
Joe

The flow control vote displayed Dallas ward politics at its worst. Pizza Mike gave a political payoff to one of his supporters at the expense of every business in Dallas. Atkins gets a slush fund and there are already men of the cloth lining up with their hands out for a piece of the action. It is little wonder that business people steer clear of the Southern sector. It is as corrupt as Detroit. Rawlings is a bully who wanted to show that he could browbeat the council into following him. They will soon tire of his act and since he has made his committee appointments he has nothing left to bargain with.  Flow control won't produce the money Suhm is hoping for and she will still be caught in a giant budget hole of her own making because she had the council kick the can down the road with police and fire. Hunt didn't study the issue, didn't learn the facts, believes Mary Nix (a huge error) and we all will pay the price. It was a sad day for the City of Dallas one of many more to come.

Pat Boyack
Pat Boyack

You all crack me up. A politician acting like a politician? NO!!! Say it ain't so!!!

So many hearts being broken. I remember another lady who many felt the same way about and she became one of the most do nothing mayors I have ever seen. I could say she fixed the pot holes and Code Enforcement........but she didn't. Thanks Laura Miller.

LakewoodLover
LakewoodLover

Dear Angela,For years, I have been secretly jealous of the residents of your district. I admired your fighting spirit and, most importantly of all, your ability to see through the bullshit that city staff attempts to feed you. You've never been one to drink the punch and you've always had the uncanny ability to drill down and find the truth. I live in an adjoining district but have never voted for my council member. Hell, I even post your campaign signs. This year, your sign stood proudly next to Pizza Mike's.

Today while listening to the discussion regarding flow control, I was sure you had your nose buried in your notes waiting to launch one of your nuclear attacks after watching Channel 8 news last night. You never made a peep. I couldn't even hear you breathe. I never heard Pizza Mike announce your name as requesting time to speak. First round of comments and still no sound from you. At this point, I am convinced that you did, in fact, stay up late last night to watch channel 8 news and spent half the night reviewing game film for today. Of course that's it, I calmly tell myself. You are running late for today's meeting or you are under the desk brushing your hair preparing for prime time coverage for an "Anglea Speaks" moment.

Then it happens. Sheffie Kadane, the representative I have never voted for, speaks up. Not only does he offer a motion to study this matter, he rejects a so-called friendly motion that would have limited the amount of time the proposed task force would sound studying the very policital and complicated issue of flow control. That poor newbie council member, Monica Alonzo, got sucked into that role by Mary Nix and Mary Suhm. I see their fingerprints all over her script. The problem is that she couldn't follow the script and didn't know how to respond to Sheffie's no thank you for your not so friendly motion. Worse than that, Councilmember Hill tried to help her make her amendment more friendly but she still didn't "get it." But back to you. Sheffie stood firm and you sat silent. You challenged staff earlier in the morning and demanded details regarding the proposed changes in Animal Services. That's a sneaky plan and you know it.

I've changed my mind about you, Pizza Mike & Sheffie. The combined wisdom that you and Pizza Mike bring as an attorney and "sharp" businessman has left me utterly speechless. Ok, so you pushed the wrong button. But what completely boggles this mind is your absolute silence. You didn't even ask a question. Not a single one. I was sure YOU would be the one to bring up the Channel 8 news story from last night and ask Mary Nix to step up to the center while you asked her why she lied. Why did she have to repeat Brett Shipp's question regarding her trip with her "pre-selected" vendor. Why is she rude and condescending to the good folks and neighbors of the landfill. Why has she and she staff been tellling everyone that flow control was a "done deal" for the past 6 months. Why Mary Suhm didn't reprimand her for saying this as she assured the city council she would do when confronted about these statements at a briefing months ago. And the super finacial genius that you are known to be who looks at every line item of every department's budget never asked for any financial details regarding this plan. Why was this rushed? What will be done with the new revenue generated from flow control? There is a plan but you haven't been told because you didn't ask. You were too busy doing what??? Hiding behind your microphone staring at your hands per Jim S. Giving yourself a manicure MIGHT be more defensible at this point.

Angela, dear, I believe this vote for flow contol will be another one of those votes like Wal-Mart at Timber Creek that you will live to regret. You actually believe Pizza Mike's task force is going to work out the little details later and when everyone realizes they made a big mistake that the city council will reverse itself and rescind the flow control ordinance? Tell me how many times have you seen the City give money back and admit they have made a mistake?

Right before you pushed the wrong button, Pizza Mike said he and Mary Nix are going to become best friends and geti this thing done. I've made a new best friend today too. HELLO SHEFFIE! Not only are we neighbors. We are now the bestest of friends. Heck, maybe we are fraternity brothers too!

whatAmess!
whatAmess!

Not to mention she totally screwed over Dale Wootton and Garden Cafe this month. She's done a 180 as far as ethics go. Just sayin'.

bbetzen
bbetzen

It was great to see the Paul Quinn students there today.  Hopefully we will see students there more often.  It now appears that 8 of the council members already have their name on the "Composite" plan for redistricting the City Council districts. See it at http://dallasredistricting2011...  That page has a comparison of it to the wPlan03 Rawlings plan as well as links to the plan on the City Council Redistricting web site.  It looks like the City Council has selected a plan wherein minorities will do good to maintain their 7 seats during the next decade.  The wPlan03 Rawlings plan would have allowed real potential for a 9th seat and even a 10th.  What are the minority members of the Council doing?  Most of them have their names on the cPlan16d "Composite" plan which is more gerrymandered than the original cPlan16d.  It has over 37mile average perimeters for every district.  That means we will have 60 more gerrymandered miles dividing up neighborhoods in Dallas for the next decade than we would have with the Rawlings wPlan03c!

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Hunt has always been unreliable in advocating for the best interests of Dallas citizens.  Her support to limit Love Field was an early indicator.  She is basically Laura Miller in a red dress.

heart and soul
heart and soul

Nothing could make me miss Tom (the lying) Leppert. I don't know if I like Mike or not but he is an upgrade. That's for sure.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Atlas Shrugged  - Ayn RandAmazon Best Sellers Rank: #388 in Books

Bully: A True Story Of High School Revenge  - JimSAmazon Best Sellers Rank: #145,403 in Books

Jim "white people just don't get it" Schutzeis the hack.

jfpo
jfpo

It's indeed a strange day when Sheffie speaks up and Angela stays silent.

Watchnu
Watchnu

What Council Member Hunt, the Attorney, & Mayor Rawlings, the savvy businessman, should be most embarrassed by is being outsmarted by an engineer and a librarian (Nix and Suhm). Neither one of them have any business sense whatsoever. Lots of high fives and kissing themselves in the mirror this afternoon in the City Manager's private bathroom.

heart and soul
heart and soul

Wow Bill. You just keep pushing your agenda. Still claiming you are non political too I bet.

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

I wouldn't say that, and I've grown to become a huge fan of Ms. Hunt's for the most part.  But to become one of her fans, I've had to overlook the absolute travesty associated with the revision of the Wright Amendment and creation of one of the worst airline oligopolies in the world (and the only one that enjoys a federal antitrust exemption at the expense of its citizens).

The back room deal making that resulted in Wright Amendment II represented everything I've grown to hate about Dallas.

Jason
Jason

Oh, Ayn.  If you were trying to disprove Jim S' statement you could have simply pointed out something in contrary to what he said.  Instead you pulled Amazon book rankings.  Let's see, Atlas Shrugged is being purchased by people who have to read it for school, people who are generally interested in reading her, and by Fox News viewers who are trying to figure out why this book gets referenced so much.  As to Bully's ranking.  Well, it is a great story.  Is it a story written for all times by a mainstream audience that generates sales in the top 500 on Amazon?  No.  You are comparing apples to oranges.  Personally, I prefer oranges.  They have a bit of a bite and quite refreshing.  On the other hand, I think apples can be quite mealy, which reminds me of the saying mealy-mouthed. Look it up.  compare/contrast.  Let's discuss when you're ready.

Admonkey
Admonkey

Really? Amazon rankings are your yardstick of hack-ness?

In that case, Ellen DeGeneres ranks 96th, so face.

bbetzen
bbetzen

Politics starts for most of us when the embilical cord is cut, but I have seen enough of City Council and the Texas Legislature to know where I do NOT want to go to be political. Wouldn't you rather be able to just pick the fights you want to have, than have them come across your desk all day?  I try to pick fights that are worth the fight, and valuable enough that they are also worth loosing. 

Brenda Marks
Brenda Marks

Miss Dead Woman --

Okay, enough already on the Love Field agreement.  It wasn't a back-room deal.  I was actually involved in the discussion, as were close friends and many neighbors, all of whom had a stake in the final deal.  The neighborhoods had negotiated in good faith years before on the Master Plan and expected that agreement to be honored by all parties--including Southwest.  Love Field will be operating at maximum gate capacity when the agreement is fully implemented in two years.  You will be able to fly all over the bloody country.  And I will be able to maintain my property values and live in peace (except when the west side runway is overused).  It was a compromise.  And in a compromise nobody gets everything they want.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

You have been spending too much time flying to Hong Kong if you are a fan of Hunt.

Her votes to shut down a decades-old, top tier, good citizen, auto repair shop through zoning tells you all you need to know about her regard for property rights and limited government.

Hunt is an awful council member, period.  Is there a good one these days? 

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Comparing the written word to fruit?  George Costanza tried the same lame tact and it did not convince anyone, including the Nakahama Broadcast Corporation.  Neither a book nor a script is an orange.

Ayn's work is still read, provokes much discussion, and remains a top seller five decades later.  Bully is largely forgotten one decade later, and never was a best seller.  In regards to long form literature, Schutze is nothing compared to Rand and its laughable that Schutze calls her the hack.

Schutze could have been remembered as a exceptional investigative reporter.  When he took over for Miller, his articles were largely first-person news gathering with a small amount of opinion.  Now, his works are very little fact gathering with a large helping of ravings by a partisan hack. 

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Admonkey sure is desperate to discredit someone who's work has lived long past her lifetime. 

But then, Admonkey has the ethics of those he associates with, like Hunt.  Probably would endorse felon Terri Hodge just like Angela Hunt does.

Admonkey
Admonkey

Right. Under a false name.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

If you are forced to pay into a system, then might as well get what one can from it.

Schutze's book was published in 1998.

Admonkey
Admonkey

I hope you, Ellen and I are all around to discuss and have a laugh about it, collecting Medicare and Social Security benefits under false names just like Ayn did, when that day finally comes.

And when was Jim's book published? Maybe if he gets a shout out from the thawed, disembodied head of Glenn Beck he'll turn the corner on sales in 40 years.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Let me know what Ellen DeGenerate's book ranks 54 years after it is published.

So, yeah, how one's work stands after decades of time matters.

heart and soul
heart and soul

Nice side step. How about your map? It's dead. I judge it not so good and not so noble also judge your motives for pushing it the same.

bbetzen
bbetzen

Nobility?  What is that? You and I never get the chance to make such a judgement about what we've done in life.  That is left to those who come after us and assign such qualities about our life, what was "good," or not so good, or "noble."  Such judgements are made about dead people so they cannot do anything to prove you wrong.

heart and soul
heart and soul

Darn right and glad you quit pretending otherwise. I have been looking for you ,Bill, wanted to dance with you. Where is your response to my last post to you? You ran away. I was calling you out ( others where too) for being not so noble. Remember?

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

It was very much a back-room deal.  Instead of an unrestricted Love Field which would open greater service and competition to the whole region, Dallas gets stuck with a  politicians handing a captive marketplace to two airlines.

Love Field was there before any of those neighborhoods.  Love Field was never to be closed to general aviation, and there were only a few short years within the 1970s that it was thought that commercial aviation would cease (and it never did).

You moved there knowing about the airport and getting a discount for the noise, and now you want to profit by restricting a vital transportation resource to all others in the region.  Brenda Marks has no qualms about pushing her narrow self interest.  Shame the pols like Hunt carry such corrupt waters for her.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Mavdog, I hope some day the city decides to take your home by zoning it for a different purpose.  You cannot live there and must keep paying taxes on it, but I am sure you would feel no urgency to sell it.  Spin it anyway you want, it is still wrong.

Angela Hunt is a terrible council member.  Period.  Her judgement is so wonderful, she endorsed felon Terri Hodge despite the known issues.

Mavdog
Mavdog

Nope, your attempt to dance around your false statements only gets you further in the wrong.

The Woodwards were owner/occupants of their property. Should their business be forced to shut down, their business may lose value depending on its ability to sustain its income in an alternative location. Move and keep its income, no true loss in value. Move and income decline, a loss in value. However the property will be worth its market price, the same before the business was there as when it moves,as the value of a property is based on the what the market says it is worth, not what the market says the business is worth.

A property sale for a "distressed price" is produced by the circumstances of the sale. Is there a forced sale by a lender? A sale by the owner due to financial presure? A personal issue such as a divorce? Unless something along these lines produces a pressure on the seller no "distressed price" would result. No, the zoning case was not going to produce a "distresed price".

It is a lie to equate property value with business value. A property that has a profitable business located on it would be worth what the market value for the property is and what the market pays in a multiple for the profit the business produces. The marketplace determines the property value, not what the business is worth. If there is a successful business on one piece of property in an area, that business would be successful in a different piece of property in the same area. It's ridiculous to assert that Woodward would be any more or less successful if they were on a different piece of proerty nearby. No, the Woodward property would not be worth less with the business gone, the property is worth what the market for real estate in the area says it is worth.

Land use and zoning is absolutely, clearly, with out a doubt the "purview of government". It is a function of government that is for the benefit of all citizens. The fact that entitlements have a direct affect on property values is why the process is done in open forums and determined by other citizens and those elected by citizens. Newflash to Ayn Rand: the process worked, and the ultimate resolution was a poitive for the community, the property/business owner, and the other property owners in the area.

From what I know we can thank Angela Hunt for this outcome. That's the fact, and clearly Ayn Rand has a problem with the facts.

Thelisma Partridge
Thelisma Partridge

Ayn, it's poor form to "like" your own comments. 

Just sayin'...

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

If Hunt's first vote stood, the Woodward would have been forced to shut their business down.  The Woodwards would then hold land for which they have no productive use, likely forcing them to sell at a distressed price.

It is a lie to state that property with a profitable business in place would be sold for less that property combined with a defunct business. 

As for zoning changes possible making the property worth more, it is NOT the purview of government to coerce development speculation upon land owners.  It is Mavdog who misrepresents the situation.

Mavdog
Mavdog

uh, you're wrong. flat out, clearly, wrong.

The property has not been "condemned", and this is not an issue of the use of Eminent Domain ("the city buying the property at market price").

John Woodward owned the property when this zoning case first began, and from all the public records available to look at, still owns the property today.

The value of the property is not less than what it was before this zoning case began, and in fact if the goal of the PDD for Ross is ultimately acheived, the property will have a greater value than it does today.

So let's recap: the city did not take anyone's property, the property was not "condemned", and clearly nobody forced the previous owner to convey title to their property, .

This is a question of land use. One would think that a poster who embraces the intellectual moniker of "Ayn Rand" would be capable of understanding this point and not continue to deny/misstate the facts.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

The Woodward's property was very well maintained.  It could not have been condemned as  'blight'. 

Instead of developers and/or the city buying the property at market price with ethical negotiations, the city zoned out the business in order to force a sale at distressed prices.  That is theft. 

JWPPWJ
JWPPWJ

Right on Ayn, some people tend to side/like Angela simply because she might be the smartest of an IQ deficient group. Not significant when considering the whole perspective. 

scottindallas
scottindallas

Before you wear out the word "steal" you should study condemnation and the ability to sell and convey land. That doesn't fix every sin, but it is hardly theft.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Like I said, the link shows that Hunt first voted to shut down a respected decades-old buisiness.  And then a few months later, fixed some of the damage that she caused. There were no new facts that arose to cause the switch.  Hunt voted to steal land via zoning, and then backed off when forced by public opinion.  Hunt's actions were a disgrace.  Just like state congress member Terri Hodge, who she endorsed despite knowing the well publicized ethics issues.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

There are more than three.  Stop making excuses.

What about Dallas City Council woman Angela Hunt being among several council members who endorsed Hodge in the primary election, who soon thereafter pleaded to a corruption charge.   Really thought through that one. 

How about raising the tax rate for last year's budget.  Hunt was the swing vote for that one too.

The list goes on and on.  And Hunt's response is to throw insults.  What a disgrace.

Jason
Jason

If that's all it takes (being smart, working hard, and thinking through the issues) then I think there are a lot of people that could easily do that job.  I'm sure you, as well.  Politicians who represent decisions made on behalf of residents need to go further than that.  Notice I didn't say constituents only.  She made a decision today that effects all of Dallas.  Being smart, working hard and thinking through issues isn't all it takes.  We need to hold representatives of Dallas to higher standards.  Unless I misread Jim's editorial, after the Mayor spoke there was no backing down.  She didn't put up an argument.  She voted.  This isn't just about a PD or an SUP in her district.  This is about Dallas.

I just hope that this doesn't end up being a decision she regrets five years later like she does the WalMart on Norhtwest Highway.  I guess we'll have to see in five years.

Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand

Lie by omission much, Angela?  That was how many months after Angela Hunt voted FOR zoning that put Woodward out of business?   Another 'mistake' Angela, like your Timbercreek vote?

Woodward has been a valued business for decades.  But because the city speculates that zoning changes will spark upscale development, Angela helps steals the Woodward's land through zoning it out of business.  There is no respect for property rights there.  And SUP is not a substitute for the Woodward's loss of property rights.

Then again, what can one expect from a council member who cannot vote correctly the first time.  No wonder Angela resorts to sophomoric insults.

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

Well... yes, there was that too..... so..... three bad choices....

I'm not saying I agree with her all the time, but I think she is smart, works hard and thinks through the issues.

Angela Hunt
Angela Hunt

Anyone with an education exceeding that of a college sophomore who uses the nom de plume "Ayn Rand" has more problems than a councilmember they don't like or agree with.  Pretentious much?  And we passed rezoning for Woodards.  Keep up.

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