Here's That New LBJ Express Video We Promised. Well, Part of It, Anyway.



Couple of days back, in this poorly written item, we looked at LBJ Infrastructure Group's proposed change to the design for the LBJ Express -- at least the section of sunken managed toll lanes originally designed to run beneath the Dallas North Tollway. Spokesman Andy Rittler also noted a new video of the project was forthcoming, after it made its bow at last night's public meeting. So here it is -- an excerpt, at least, featuring the new-look LBJ-Dallas North Tollway meet-up.

And speaking of the LBJ Express: I was just invited to attend one "final walk over" the Joe Ratliff Pedestrian Walkway Saturday night, from 7 to 9 p.m., in advance of its Sunday shutdown. Say this for us native Northwest Dallasites: We're a proudly nostalgic lot, and we know how (and where) to party.

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brendan_j_smith
brendan_j_smith

This video isn't accurate. No matter how many lanes you have, people in Dallas still can't merge. The people getting off the highway hit the gas, the people getting on the highway hit the breaks. You should be showing a backup at every off/on ramp.

Paul
Paul

Let's see ... we will add the equivalent of at least 6 lanes and width.  With shoulders and barriers that comes to at least another 100 feet in width over the existing footprint.

Yet the video does not show any buildings or structures removed.  I see this interchange everyday from the air and I do not see how 6 lanes plus shoulders and barriers can be added within the existing ROW.

And this is supposed to be a "superior" design?

We were right ... this is the revenge of the C- student.

Bob
Bob

Robert - remind me.... will the new LBJ be able to accommodate trains if DART chooses to put a line in?

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

I didn't have the audio on, so I'm assuming Grand Theft Auto 3 is being re-released given the dated graphics. XBox 360, please. 

Thelisma Partridge
Thelisma Partridge

So the "managed" toll lanes are in the middle?  How does one get from the 635 toll lanes to the DNT? 

Old School
Old School

Maybe I better ride my Trail 70 across that walkway one last time.

jfpo
jfpo

The interchange itself looks unchanged and unimproved. Awesome. What a poorly written design.

Gabe
Gabe

This comment are poorly written".

Brint Crockett
Brint Crockett

This video is poorly written.  There's no plot, three act structure, or character development.

Ed D.
Ed D.

Looking on Google Maps, there's a fair amount of dirt between the highway and the service roads from Welch to the Tollway, maybe even enough for this to work. However, the video shows the cloverleaf and other interchange lanes at LBJ and the DNT magically unchanged even though they'll need to be moved significantly (or made more dangerous to navigate at current speeds) to jam in six additional lanes. I think this is where the video crossed the line from simulation to urban fantasy.

Paul
Paul

Looking at it again ... and again ... and again ... It has become obvious ... TxDOT and the LBJ Express are using SimCity 4 for their modeling and design.

Did anybody notice that the traffic is moving slower on the DNT than on LBJ?

Robert Wilonsky
Robert Wilonsky

I asked Morgan Lyons that just now, just for you. And the DART spokesman says that "once upon a time, there was talk of an LBJ line, but it was not included in the 2030 plan," which was approved by the DART board in '06. It's a "vision element," meaning it's something DART would like to do sometime between 2030 and Star Trek.

Montemalone
Montemalone

Same way you make the exit you just passed, shift into reverse, back up and block traffic, then exit. Gonna be a long backtrack, but you can be sure it will happen.

Imagepimp
Imagepimp

My thought exactly. I understand that it's supposed to be a limited access toll road, but you would think that there would be at a minimum access to the major highways that it runs through, including the Tollway. Yay, boondoggles! On the rare future occasions that I am dumb enough to drive 635, I'll stick to those "free" dirtbag lanes up top.

cynical old bastard
cynical old bastard

You don't.  The toll lanes are an express route between Stemmons and Central.

Brint Crockett
Brint Crockett

Looks like they're going to astroturf the medians.  That'll be freaky weird.

jfpo
jfpo

We need more third graders to improve the posting quality of the commenting.

Ed D.
Ed D.

The video does include all three of the classical unities: unity of action (no subplots), unity of place (covers a single physical space and does not compress geography), and unity of time (in roughly real time). Aristotle would be proud.

Steve
Steve

Agreed Brint. Wilonsky loses all ability to communicate when discussing LBJ. Hang it up Robert!

Paul
Paul

I agree ... I look over this interchange everyday from a high rise building ... I am still waiting to find out how and why this is a "superior" design.

TimCov
TimCov

So, once again the people who don't go downtown frequently are screwed by DART.

Tom L (No, Not That L)
Tom L (No, Not That L)

This will be very handy on those occasions that I drive all the way from 75 to 35 and vice versa. Which would be, say, once every two years or so.

Gabe
Gabe

WORLD CLASS PUTT PUTT GREEN!

Paul
Paul

Would these be the unitilities that I have heard about? ... 8-D

Brint Crockett
Brint Crockett

Wilonsky did write the screenplay for this video, right?

Montemalone
Montemalone

Gotta have something to do during rush hour. Sure won't be moving.

Montemalone
Montemalone

Wrong thread.Ergo, violates unity of place.

Steve
Steve

Thanks for responding Robert. I was kind of excited about the bowling alley and disappointed it didn't pass, hope it passes assuming they don't douche it out. I think the owners have shown they're worthy neighbors on Henderson Ave though so my hopes remain. I'm also pretty excited about the Food Court and nothing I've read from the owners plans has changed my mind about that development.

Robert Wilonsky
Robert Wilonsky

I actually star in the video -- look closely, and you can see me waving from the window of the eastbound yellow big-rig at the .21 mark. Funny thing is, we were JUST talking about Lower Greenville retail -- which is to say, the lack of it -- at this morning's staff meeting. Right now, you know what I know -- what's there is all there is for now, unless the city council signs off on the bowling alley in September, when it's due to come to the horseshoe. I know neighbors WANT daylight retail. But as we've written in recent weeks, that may be difficult at present. But, calls are actually out. If there's something to update, expect an item as soon as.

Steve
Steve

I'm sure he at least co-produced. On a side note, and a serious one, may we please see what's up with Lowest Greenville retail Robert? I know it's torn to shit now but there has to be some developments happening. I ask this selfishly because I live on the M Streets.

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