Fun With Audio, Part 2: EBJ and JWP Talk About the Inland Port, Kathy Nealy, Ross Jr. (and Me)

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This weekend I have been sitting around ruminating on the last three years of reporting I have done on the Inland Port story, which now seems to an element in the FBI corruption probe of Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price.

By the way, I happen to know the FBI has been hearing about this stuff for three years from lots more people than just me. Southern Dallas is home to many honest citizens, land-owners and business people who have gotten the short end of the stick from the commissioner over the years, and I think a lot of them have been visiting with the feds.

I thought it might help to share with the Friends of Unfair Park a few excerpts from I-don't-know-how-many hours of conversations I have had with people in the last three years to discuss the Inland Port project, a massive rail, truck and warehouse development in Southern Dallas.

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This one, called "We're the Toughest Three People in This County" is taken from a chat two years ago with Dallas Congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson, in which she describes a meeting between herself, John Wiley Price and State Senator Royce West to discuss the infamous SALT proposal - an attempt by a group of Price allies to get the main Inland Port developer to cut them in for $1.5 million and a 15 percent share of his company in exchange for political peace.

This one is significant for a few reasons. For one, Price's lawyer, John Carney, is now trying to say that Price was never involved in the SALT group and only found out about it "of late." How late would that be? In this chat, Johnson talks about a meeting in 2007 when Price and State Senator Royce West came to her to get her to them help pressure Allen.

"We're the Toughest Three People in This County"


Now we come to "That's What Equity Means," which gives Congresswoman Johnson's view of the SALT Group's suggestion that it be given a 15-percent equity share in Allen's company.

"That's What Equity Means"


The excerpt called "The Interlocal Proposal" offers Johnson's view of a proposal by Price that a new interlocal entity be created to control Allen's Inland Port development.

"The Interlocal Proposal"


In "JWP and Ross Perot Jr.," EBJ talks about Price's history of shaking people down and about his relationship with the Perot family and how Kathy Nealy figures into this.

"JWP and Ross Perot Jr."


In "JWP Over the Years," Johnson talks about Price's style and history.

"JWP Over the Years"


In "Slavery and Carpetbaggers," Price and I argue about his public statements to the effect that the 60,000 jobs promised by the Inland Port development are without value to black people.

"Slavery and Carpetbaggers"


In "Royce West and JWP on KKDA," you will hear Price and a certain state senator reiterate the same views during an appearance on radio.

"Royce West and JWP on KKDA"


Just for grins, I have thrown in a longer conversation, the last semi-civil one he and I had, about two years ago, called "Price and I Dscuss Gertrude Stein." In it, he reads for me a letter he is sending to the editor of the Observer calling me a carpetbagger, and I offer him some erudite literary criticism. It's like Hemingway and Fitzgerald in Paris.

"Price and I Discuss Gertrude Stein"
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Disgusted!
Disgusted!

Those slaves who survived the ocean crossing lasted an average of 6 years then died.  Which is one reason slavery was so lucrative for slave traders. 

How disappointing to learn Sen. West sells out his district, that his "equity position" is more important than new jobs for his district.   

the queen
the queen

While us employees at the DCJD watch with embarrassment at all this, we all can't  help but wonder why this could be the cause of our JOB CUTS, NO RAISES IN MORE THAN 3 YRS. , budget cuts in places that we almost have to revert back the pilgrim days just to get a days work in..workg or butts off for nun!!! Thanks JWP..

Nivlem Do
Nivlem Do

It cost approx $2,500 for a two year certificate at a Dallas Community College. $100,000 would have been a good start to change a community. The cars should have been sold with the funds going to Dallas County

Why didn't the other Commissioners get a car or two?

trannnyntraining
trannnyntraining

I was thinking(dangerous I know) about how they're selling naming rights to the highest bidder around town(at least wanting to)...and thought we should name one of DART's crappers "Shutze's Shitter" kinda like in the movie, "The Green Berets" w/ John Wayne, when they named a latrine "Provo's Privy". It would be dedicated in honor of Mr. Jim continually flushing all the city's excrement using the journalistic method...I tip my hat to you sir!

Metroplexual
Metroplexual

@dd48e8d79a41a5edb5d8ee889d84da83:disqus Replying to my own post RE citizens committee to look into DISD spending.  Iwasn't thinking very well this a.m.DUH, that's what the school board is elected to do.....So it's in place already and we didn't get much of a circus or cut much waste and poor performing programs....

Jim S. you nailed it on the above comment as you often do.

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

Just sifting through some public records, I was interested to see that Kathy Nealy was hired by T. Boone Pickens' company, "Clean Energy Fuels" and the Denton County-based millionaire owner (Allen Mansourian) of three of the largest taxi cab companies in Dallas (Golden Cab, Executive Taxi and Taxi Dallas), to lobby the minority council members on the CNG taxi initiative.

For those who don't remember, this initiative (the most stringent in the U.S.), was blamed for throwing all the (predominantly black) independent taxi driver owners out of business in favor of the large white-owned conglomerates (who were the only ones able to quickly come up with the cash to purchase CNG taxis-- since there was no phase-in provision).

JimS
JimS

Let's say you're a rich white guy. If you have an issue that's good for Southern Dallas, you go to the black council members yourself, for free, so you can get back-slapped for a good guy. If you have an issue that's bad for people in the Southern sector or for people of color, you don't go to the council members of color yourself. You hire somebody -- a very certain somebody.

Ralph Malph
Ralph Malph

Wylie,

Have you seen the other consulting companies (and usual suspects) that work with T-.Boone? And Hilllwood, too? It's like they shadow each other.

Brenda Marks
Brenda Marks

Wylie H -- Not surprised.  Color means nothing when cash is involved.  This was one decision that I thought was unfair and badly executed.  I don't know who you are but if I'm ever in a room with you please tap me on the shoulder.  Promise not to out you.

Metroplexual
Metroplexual

I have to admit I have a fevah and need more news regarding not only JWP investigation butDISD, Parkland, Jail, DA's office / bail bond fiasco  etc.  Wasteful spending and malfeasanceare problems that costs us millions and provides no return or benefits (except to a few).  

Corruption requires feds to sort it all out because local enforcement is not free enough andevidently doesn't have the will and tools to investigate and enforce our laws,  Waste and incompetence only seem to be uncovered by concerned citizens, spurned vendors and ex employees.  News media around here, Observer excluded, isn't so interested unless compelled by someone else's lead.

I would enjoy the circus that would occur around and who would be appointed to the suggested citizens committee for overseeing spending and contracts for DISD.  I see the need but don't see how it could be effective without subpoena and some kind of enforcement authority.

Off this thread's subject but interesting nevertheless is which bail bondsmen owe thesystem for forfeitures and how much each one owes.  DMN's Sunday story was lacking that most important detail.  (Go figure..)  I don't know, must be top secret info as it makes no sense to not be included in the story. 

 

DISD Teacher
DISD Teacher

A poll of the teachers regarding which current programs to keep or cut would be very quick, effective and nearly impossible to influence.

I can guarantee you we would vote overwhelming to get rid of IFL.

And the vendors?  They just jack up their prices once they're chosen.  Item A costs $10 from a non-DISD vendor, but the same item costs $1000 from the approved DISD vendor.  It's such a racket.

Acoolone
Acoolone

JWP is now the new Dallas County Commissioner of Sunnyvale, Texas; youknow the place that has kelp low income housing out of their town for over 25years. Can you just imagine the money he could extort  in that town.

Takedown
Takedown

Readers, please stay tuned, the stories are going to get much much bigger than this..................and involve many more than just these mentioned.................also things completely unrelated to the inland port situation...............stay tuned......HUGE!!!!!!! 

Jo
Jo

Jim S. great work and your right about DMN. You just got you a new reader for life. Thank you and please keep it up. As an aside we used to live real close to him for many years and I had always wonder how in the world a public servant has so many expensive cars. It used to piss me off and for those out there. He lives no more than one block away from a real bad part of Oak Cliff.

Diane Birdwell
Diane Birdwell

If the average black South Dallas resident does not wake up and see how they have been suckered by their own so-called "leaders and Men of God," then they will continue to live in the part of Dallas which never gets anything.

Put it another way: if WHITE people did this to BLACK South Dallas, they would be out in the streets protesting!! But, hey, if your Brother does it, that is okay, how exactly?  But no, actually, it is WHITE people doing it, by using black people as fronts!

And you know, when we all die, we can't take anything with us, so how much is ENOUGH for the Perots? Will God look favorably on them, their operations, their tactics? Man, I would hate to be them then. There is enough growing global trade to sustain both Alliance and Inland Port. To work to stop this, well, some of us have been saying this for years.... Thank you , Jim, for making me look a little more sane now. We look forward to seeing how the evidence plays out.

Jim, in your spare time, why not take a gander at some DISD consulting contracts? You will see the same thing with black and Hispanic contractors--and white ones, too. Fraud and corruption is rampant in this town. It isn't only the Trinity River that stinks--even when you put a pretty bridge over it.

RW1961
RW1961

I thought it interesting that the DISD Board was talking about cost-cutting measures, and listed employee lunches, trips, etc. as things they were really going to take a look at (after a DMN article about $500 pizzas or whatever).

Absolutely no mention was made of the consulting contracts and the millions of dollars more that those eat up. 

DISD Teacher
DISD Teacher

I completely about the consulting contracts:  how much have we spent on Institute for Learning (from Pittsburgh) ideas, literature, etc?  Multiple millions.  We even hired one of their minions and pay her a six-figure salary.  She's kept on at the expense of more teachers (which would equal smaller classes for kids) even though performance is not improving.

Every problem in DISD begins and ends with the school board members who are elected to serve parents and children but serve vendors/contractors/consultants/Dallas Citizens Council instead.

The $57 million spent on fast food and hotels is the latest and best example of our school board's priorities.

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

Exactly.  How many millions of dollars a year does DISD pay Sen. Royce West?  And for what, exactly?

Jay
Jay

Its for being DISD's Man Downtown.

Michael MacNaughton
Michael MacNaughton

It's not just the consulting contracts at DISD but also the education programs and vendors.  DISD cannot accurately assess the efficacy and effectiveness of a majority of these programs....if they move the needle on student achievement or not. The administration has evolved into vendor managers. I believe that it will be necessary for an independent citizens commission to work with an outside firm to do this assessment...an expense today of $3M may save $30M tomorrow.

DISD Teacher
DISD Teacher

A few teachers on a committee like that would be helpful, too.  We are forced to use many worthless programs simply bc someone in the district bought the program.  

Insight
Insight

Keep going Diane, your efforts do not go unnoticed. Your words are inspiring and right on!!!!

Keep up the good work - and thank you. 

Lifelong Oak Cliff Resident
Lifelong Oak Cliff Resident

JWP, you make some interesting claims. It may fairly be asked about the Allen Inland Port, why then and why there? Oh, you had been doing this for YEARS to other property or business owners? Really? Which ones? Where and when? How is what you were/are doing any different from extortion? You do believe there is and should be a law against extortion don't you? Nice little Bentley you got there--it would be a shame if anything happened to it. Oh, I meant to say, you are enslaving me by not letting me drive it 15% of the time. With such a strong belief in the magic of "ownership" it would not be surprising to find out that JWP is a Tea Party member (he did support independent Ross Perot for president over "fellow" Democrat Bill Clinton, after all).

trannnyntraining
trannnyntraining

{Ross Perot, Jr and JWP sitting down at a piano...they begin to sing} Ebony and Ivory together in perfect corruptive harmony, side by side we'll shakedown any and e-very-body...ebony and ivory...

Gary
Gary

Don Hill was crooked, convicted, yet still liked.  JWP is crooked, has never been liked, often loathes, always feared.  If convicted, the sweetness factor will be off the corruption charts, Mavs title-like.

Will FBI subpoena Jim's tapes?  Or do they have Quiktime?

JimS
JimS

They got way better tapes than mine.

Cujo
Cujo

This brings to mind the shakedown/extortion attempt of Willard Rouse in Philly a few decades ago. They nailed a councilman and the mob on an attempt to extort 1M from WR. The only difference here is that Dallas doesn't really have an organized crime presence, they have politicians.

I'm wondering if JWP will classify UNICOR as slavery too. I look forward to all the exciting and insightful dialogue JWP will have on that topic with the Aryan Brotherhood.  Let the RICO indictments begin!

BoPeep
BoPeep

In Dallas, Organized Crime = Politicians

Tad Banyon
Tad Banyon

Price's philosophy that "during slavery, everyone had a job" and his fierce determination to defend such a ludicrous slogan says more about him than he realizes. Going with that logic, jobs are meaningless, even degrading. A job is equated with toiling away one's life to make Whitey rich. Put another way, working is for suckers. Is it any surprise that a guy who believes working is for suckers would bully and extort his way to success? In his twisted head, earning an honest living would make him somebody's slave.

Brenda Marks
Brenda Marks

By JWP's own definition, he is a slave. But I'm sure he disagrees, possibly for reasons which are currently under investigation.

Rooster
Rooster

He doesn't really believe that shit.  It's just the position he had to take to erect a wall white people would have difficulty tearing down.  It's nothing more than a shakedown and this is the shit he made up to accomplish it.

JimS
JimS

... a philosophy that condemns young people to ruined lives.

Watching
Watching

Never thought much of EBJ until she stepped out and called West & JWP the shake down thugs that they are.  She's got her skeletons that need to be kept closeted, but she was right on this issue.  Give her points for sticking her kneck out for the right side in the Inland Port fiasco.   She could have kept quiet.  

trannnyntraining
trannnyntraining

"Just put the money in a brown paper bag and leave it in the alley behind the building....hey, wait a sec! are you a cop? no. well, you know you'd have to tell me if you were".....this has been a brief foray into the inner workings of a Dallas business meeting. Have a wonderful Fourth of July folks!

BoPeep
BoPeep

.....even sounds like a thug.

Lolotehe
Lolotehe

There's a dance track in there somewhere. A shuffle or a stomp, at least.

Sashay Sashay
Sashay Sashay

You're not just going to "sashay up in here" or "poly frocks up in here"

That is Classic - old school - southern black folk - talk!!  I love it.

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

Jim, you and Robert should go back and read this piece that Ann Zimmerman wrote for the Observer in 1997 detailing Perot, American Airlines and Ray Hutchison's involvement in the original Alliance project (an sudden, unexplained shifts in posture by the Dallas City Council that resulted in the City turning a blind eye to something that ended up costing it dearly)--- that makes for some mighty interesting reading!

http://www.dallasobserver.com/...

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

Don't forget that Kathy Nealy's personal residence is a condo that she purchased directly from the Perot interests in Victory (Eddie Bernice Johnson also purchased a condo in the same building from the Perot interests.... then, awhile later, Willis Johnson purchased a condo next door to Eddie Bernice Johnson.... lol....).

Cujo
Cujo

Here's hoping "equity" means jail time.

Jay
Jay

The DMN articles on the JWP investigations continue to spin the myth that the SALT players merely wanted the opportunity to purchase 15% equity in the project. The facts don't support that spin. The SALT contract proposal didn't support that spin. These recording don't support that spin.

Constable517
Constable517

this just get interesting more and more, didn't est try to distance himself last week by submitting a letter stating he had nothing to do with the Salt deal. The sad truth is when they start screaming racism and all its them who cause them their own headaches and all. This isn't about race at all, its about who could make a bigger buck and get away with it. Kepp in mind he was in office for 27 years, i wonder what else will come to light

Guest
Guest

It is completely obvious to me, if the Allen Group thought that the intellectual equity was worth 15%, he probably would have accepted their investment. However, out the Bozos involved, did not have even have 1% worth of intellect equity to put on the table.

JWP and the rest of his "intellect", are what is wrong with the leadership in the black community. JWP, Willis Johnson, Royce West, Kathy Nealy, etc., care only what they can get out of the deal for themselves. They have no intent of helping their brothers and sisters.

Team1
Team1

You are 10000000000% correct

Been black 72 years and I don't see a thing they have done

Don Hill left the light on for the finalembers of the inner circle

just sayin'
just sayin'

Kathy Nealy is white. She may have siblings, but she doesnt have any brothers and sisters.

JimS
JimS

Kathy Nealy is black. Go to hell.

Price-less
Price-less

Jim, do you have a transcript of these recordings that you can link to this article?  I would love to post them all over Facebook, but, you know, I'm too lazy to transcribe the recordings myself.  Don't you have some desperate intern that you can assign it to?

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