How the Love Field People Mover Project Fits Into Downtown-to-Oak Cliff Streetcar Project

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Click to embiggen the current streetcar project alignment, which runs all of 1.6 miles
Here's a council committee briefing worth keeping an eye on today: Streetcar Planning Update, always a topic of interest but even more so as the Federal Transit Administration revenue-service deadline barrels down the tracks. Recall: In order to not to lose that $23-million Transportation Investment Generating Economic Recovery grant the city won in February 2010, service between Union Station and near-Methodist Hospital (Colorado and Beckley, to be exact) -- viewed now as a "starter line" and the "critical spine" to a larger streetcar system -- has to begin by no later than December 2013.

But several major issues remain, chief among them raising the necessary operating and maintenance costs, finding additional funding for the expected expansion and "establishing reliable revenue sources." As it stands now, the project's expected to cost close to $37 million, with regional toll revenue from the 121 and 161 projects covering the $13.6-million gap. (That money inches up little by little with each update to the council; October's $6.2 million from 121 is now $7.8 million.) But if you'll notice: The guesstimated $9 million price tag for the streetcars themselves "is not covered in current capital budget."

So where oh where will this money come from?

The Love Field People Mover, just maybe -- the Green Line-to-Love Field line to which Dallas Area Rapid Transit has committed $20 million and to which the North Central Texas Council of Governments has promised $50 million. Of course, it's stalled out at present because of the cost: somewhere between $300 and $400 million, depending upon which alignment is picked -- the one that tunnels under the runway and connects the airport terminal to Southwest's HQ (known as "the Burbank alignment") or the one that stays above ground (otherwise known as "the Inwood alignment").

City staff's asking for Inwood -- it's $100-mil cheaper, after all. That way it can "reprogram" some of that People Mover money to the streetcar project. But everyone -- DART, the NCTCOG and the Regional Transportation Council -- has to sign off on this. And city staff really needs council to vote on this by no later than month's end to satisfy the FTA's deadlines.

Next up:
The city figures a real streetcar line needs to run at least 40 miles in length and cost at least $800 million, with $40 mil in annual O&M expenses. Is public-private possible?
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Kevin Miller
Kevin Miller

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scottindallas
scottindallas

There are what some 15 different TIF programs for the CBD and the city can't use those to fund this wholly appropriate gov't expenditure? Why is it ok to give this money to developers rather than using this to encourage development by installing streetcars, a public good? Somehow the politicos AND THE VOTERS support this perverted socialism where gov't gives money to the rich at the expense of the many. Where are the conservatives attacking this selective socialism? Why aren't the liberals decrying these ambitious and unconventional expenditures while we are struggling to fund essential and common services?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Apparently there's $8 million just lying around when we need it to pay some fancy-pants architect to build a superfluous bridge, but finding the funding for a streetcar is just impossible? Oh wait, you can't talk about the streetcar at society parties. Now I get it.

Oak Cliff Townie
Oak Cliff Townie

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Downtown_worker
Downtown_worker

So is the money for the streetcars being borrowed from the People Mover budget or do they plan to use the same vehicles for both? As for the line ending at Colorado and Beckley, well at least that now makes the Zang Triangle project a transit-oriented development.

Alex Roderer
Alex Roderer

this is quite a bipartisan effort otherwise something likke this wouldnt work in dallas without republican support!

Oak Cliff Townie
Oak Cliff Townie

There are what some 15 different TIF programs for the CBD.....

And they seem to have their own president running the show for Downtown...

Still the selected Mode of Transit falls about 3 to 4 hundred yards short of being a real transit option by stopping at Beckley instead of rolling on to the within a few hundred feet of the Hospitals Covered south entrance .

me
me

They'll talk about how the streetcar cost millions, goes a short distance and has few riders.

btw, how is wanting a signature bridge because you think it is cool any different than wanting a streetcar because you think it is cool?

Robert Wilonsky
Robert Wilonsky

Sorry -- left out those two sentences now added to the item, which have since been added. But the money from the People Mover would be shifted, or reprogrammed, to the streetcar starter line.

Thelisma Partridge
Thelisma Partridge

Screw the hospital, the line goes just far enough to reach the Golden Zang Triangle development. THAT'S where the money will be made, and THAT is what this is all about.

Thanks INCAP - or whatever you're calling yourself now.

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