First Baptist's Jeffress Goes on FOX to Present Theories Why Obama Didn't Send Easter Card


Perhaps you've heard: President Obama didn't issue an Easter proclamation, and that has some folks in a tizzy (which I believe is some kind of religious headgear?). Anyway. First Baptist Church of Dallas's Robert Jeffress, who is now a FOX News regular, went on FOX & Friends this morning to offer his thoughts on the subject. Far as he's concerned, there are two reasons why the president didn't mail his Easter card, both of which are "deeply troubling for Christians."
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Foxsupporter
Foxsupporter

Why do you still cater to this racist, bigoted idiot?  this is not the first time he has embarrassed you on TV.

Fletch
Fletch

Wow...that's a bitchin' toupee he's sporting. He looks like a smug little troll. And a pious one at that.

Likeicare
Likeicare

I didn't issue an Easter decree or send out cards either.

Bettyculbreath
Bettyculbreath

I once enjoyed Mr.jeffress preaching,first time ,I heard one of his off the wall,comments,I wondered, how a christian man ,could have such a weird comment. To make such a statement about President Obama and Easter is the silliest thing I have heard in recent memory.This madness from people who are down right racist,and pick on every thing that President Obama does.The people that don't like Obama policy,will start liking him,anyone watching this hate and attack upon him will sympathize .

Lyn
Lyn

It's not really about this moron, it's about how far Fox is willing to go into the muck.

Paul Walker
Paul Walker

Way to go Pastor - Stand up for what you believe. Hell with all these liberals!

Kennetron
Kennetron

You know, Grandpa used to call the Church of Christ folk Camelites. You know, because they would stand outside on the porch after church and light up a pack of camels. I mean Obama was a smoker. Maybe he's one of them thar Camelites, which would melt the makeup right off of ol' Jeffress face like in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

T-Bone
T-Bone

Does Jeffress remind anyone else of Dean Pelton from Community?

Diana Powe
Diana Powe

To paraphrase Robert Jeffress' formulation, as a Christian I find his appearances and comments on Fox News deeply troubling. There are few things more completely idiotic than the "Obama is secretly a Muslim" trope. Aside from its fantasy nature, those passionate Constitution fans on the right keep forgetting one thing - Article VI includes this:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Even if Barack Obama WAS a Muslim, it would be completely irrelevant. Of course, it's not really about anything except rank bigotry.

wascallywabbit
wascallywabbit

I think, not only should we ask to see the Prez's birth certificate, but also his baptismal papers.

LakeWWWooder
LakeWWWooder

I would much rather have J.R. Ewing representing our city.

MrSweet
MrSweet

I thought we had religious freedom here? I thought we seperated church and state? We are NOT a Christian country!!! That would be unconstitutional!!! We probably do need a non-christian as president, Muslim,Hindu,Buddist or otherwise.

Coleman
Coleman

The War on Easter is the new War on Christmas, dude. They're fighting the "we're being opressed!" war on two fronts now.

Dallasite78
Dallasite78

26 ad hominem insults of Mr. Jeffress, Christians, conservatives and counting. Not a single rebuttal. Not a hint of consideration of the implications of Obama seemingly blowing off the most important holiday on the Christian calendar. You lefties are just so open-minded, looking at both sides, nay every side, of every issue before each and every one of you reach the exact same conclusion, and utter with the wisdom of Solomon, "Christians/Conservatives/the "Other" are poopie-heads"!

Kennetron
Kennetron

That's where I've seen him before. Please, oh please, someone suggest the Carmen Miranda outfit for next year's Easter pageant.

JB
JB

Ah, but you've made the mistake of bringing rational thought, educated discussion, and thoughtful argument to a comment post. A comment post is meant for adults to act like complete schoolyard children and say the nastiest things to one another behind the guise of anonymity. I applaud your efforts though, but for future reference, anytime you bring cited sources to a comment post, you will get the response, "Oh yeah, well you're stupid and an idiot!". But you however are not. Thanks for your thoughtful post with sources to back it up!

Guest
Guest

You mean, we should ask to see his birth certificate again

Mister_Mean
Mister_Mean

I hate to say this but on the news today they had a piece that for any reasonable sane reasonable person would put to rest the fact that Obama WAS born in the USA (assuming that you know your geography and realize that Hawaii is a state in the USA--Note my brother was born in New Mexico and some yokels ask if he was a US resident--go figure). It seems that there is a segment of the population that is either so ignorant or so willing to bury their heads up FOX news's ass hole that they refuse to acknowledge this as a FACT. Birthers GET OVER IT. You are embarrassing yourselves.

However I did hear a piece that Senator McCain was born in Panama-there might be a valid question if HE is a US citizen?

Erich S
Erich S

Exactly. Like, what if Obama isn't a Christian? What if he really is a Muslim? Big deal! There is no state religion. These racist nitwits need to get over it.

Country Crock
Country Crock

The pompous and very smug Jeffress is the pastor of my church. Fortunately, I did not vote for him to come. I did not vote for that whore-house looking building he is putting the church in debt to build. And fortunately, I work at another church so I don't have to listen to him and actually decide to remove my name from the roll of that church after being a member for twenty five years. He is smug, condescending and offensive to many long time members. But he things God is on his side and blesses him every time he farts.

chevytexas
chevytexas

So, Dallasite78, you're looking for rebuttal of what is basically an ambitious attempt at worldy issues by a man who should be in the pulpit, not on TV news. Obama went to church, a Christian church, on Easter Sunday just like you presumably did. The Bushes did the same thing; I'm guessing Herbert Hoover (who'd like you) did the same. Since when do you need a 'proclamation'? And, may I speak for Jews here, would you the hell stop referring to Solomon when you're reaching for example of wisdom: get your own.

Guest
Guest

Maybe because Mr. Jeffress never once mentions that neither of the Bushes or Reagan ever issued official Easter proclamations, we detect a hint of "playing politics" in Jeffress suddenly becoming concerned about the lack of an official White House proclamation of Easter.

What are the implications of George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan not issuing official proclamations relating to Easter during the 20 years they held the White House?

Where was Mr. Jeffress in worrying about the implications of the George W. Bush White House hosting Ramadan observances eight different times during his presidency? Did 20% of the American public believe President Bush to be Muslim based on his lack of official Easter proclamations and hosting of Ramadan observances at the White House?

Why are there only implications to be considered when there's someone in the White House who Mr. Jeffress disagrees with politically and who Mr. Jeffress considers some sort of "other"?

Where were you in wanting to discuss the implications of the Bushes and Reagan not issuing official Easter proclamations? Why do you only want to discuss the implications now that there's a black guy with a funny name holding the office doing the same thing (or, more accurately, not doing what they also didn't do) the last three Republicans did?

scottindallas
scottindallas

Maybe we're not all that hung up on the Trinity. You know, England hanged the last many for expressing heresy regarding the Trinity doctrine in the 1860s. Perhaps you think we should go back to that?

Erich S
Erich S

Jeffress is attempting to use his position as head of his (genuinely) anti-Christian, racist organization to pressure local businesses and governments into embracing a seriously flawed "theology." And since he so obviously is interested in national politics, it's open season to take this clown down.

Lee
Lee

Dallasite, the point is that no recent President has issued an "Easter Proclamation" (whatever that may be) but somehow, it's only a problem that Obama did not. This is similar to how budget deficits under Reagan and Bush were not really a problem, but under Obama they are the end of the world.

As far Obama "blowing off" Easter, what are you talking about? He hosted or participated in a variety of events that day, including an Easter prayer breakfast, at which he said:

"I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -- because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there's something about the resurrection -- something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective. "We all live in the hustle and bustle of our work... But then comes Holy Week. The triumph of Palm Sunday. The humility of Jesus washing the disciples' feet. His slow march up that hill, and the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross. And we're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection.

"In the words of the book Isaiah: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."

"This magnificent grace, this expansive grace, this 'Amazing Grace' calls me to reflect. And it calls me to pray. It calls me to ask God for forgiveness for the times that I've not shown grace to others, those times that I've fallen short. It calls me to praise God for the gift of our son -- his Son and our Savior."

There is no rebuttal or defense of Jeffress because his comments and behavior cannot be defended by anyone, of any religeon with a reasonable mind.

MattL1
MattL1

I don't think hosting a prayer breakfast and an Easter egg roll is "blowing it off." Also, if the vast majority of people think someone (i.e. Mr. Jeffress) is being ridiculous, then he probably is.

Ellum08
Ellum08

When did Easter bump Christmas? Or is Christmas not part of the 'Christian' calendar?

wascallywabbit
wascallywabbit

Exactly! But, this time we'll ask Mr. Jeffress and Gov.Perry to pray on it, so we'll be certain it was looked over by God...you know how us mere mortals are sometimes apt to err.

wascallywabbit
wascallywabbit

I'm neither reasonable nor sane, but I am pretty sure that Obama was born within the confines of the 50 states. McCain, couldn't care less, as I don't feel threatened like a certain group of Americans do, concerning our present Commander in Chief.

Kennetron
Kennetron

Thomas Jefferson was a deist. Does that kinda count?

Dallasite78
Dallasite78

You enlightened liberals can't quite make up your mind on Mr. Obama, can you?

You rabidly defend his Christianity from attack - "Those crazy yahoos think he's a [mooslim/atheist] when he's clearly a Christian because he says he is."

And then just as rabidly attack Christianity as inherently unintellectual and evidence of sister-raping Appalachian redneckery.

Answer me honestly. Do you REALLY, TRULY, VERILY believe that Mr. Obama is a Christian (or "xtian" as several of you so charmingly write) or do you think he's a really cool secularist/atheist like Bill Mahr, Jon Stewart and yourselves and just posing as a Christian because he HAS TO to get the votes of backwards and unenlightened rubes across America?

I'm really curious. Because if it's the latter, then doesn't that just mean that those who vocally doubt his self-avowed Christianity are actually correct?

And that what really bothers you about these oafish doubting thomases and doubting thomasettes is not that they are incorrect in their claims, but that they, much like you, infuriatingly see through the ass-smoke your Messiah is blowing?

That's my read anyway...

Alfredo
Alfredo

LeeSure is a defense, what Jeffress questioned was why when the Prez issues a proclamation for Muslim holidays why didn' he do it for a Christian holiday.

There has been no answer for why a proclamation for a Muslim holiday, if the Prez did in fact do that, but not for a major Christian holy day

Dallasite78
Dallasite78

Easter "bumped" Christmas somewhere around 2000 years ago you ignorant cretin :)

I'm using "ignorant cretin" as a descriptive, not a pejorative, so please do not be offended.

Kennetron
Kennetron

Maybe his allegiances are still to Queen Liliuokalani. Someone should ask.

Mister_Mean
Mister_Mean

I can accept that. On certains topics I have felt the same about past presidents and I can see that for some the same might be presently true.

Country Crock
Country Crock

Dallasite78, I don't care if obama claims to be a Christian or a Muslim or if he paints himself purple and dances around a pole at midnight. It is irrelevant. We had a good Christian president who was an alcoholic and got us into another never ending war on double dealing and misrepresentation. We had another good Baptist president who received blow jobs in the oval office and lived a life of adultery. So what does his religion matter? Obviously his relationship with Christ didn't make much difference in Clinton's life or in Bush's life. And we won't even go into divorced Regan and super-adulterer JFK, both good Christians. BTW, I have been a member of FBC Dallas for 25 years and the arrogance and condescension of bully pastor Jeffress has made me consider leaving the church I love. It looks like he is there to stay. If he is, then I am out. I didn't go there to be under an egotistical demagogue, but we have one now as a pastor.

Kennetron
Kennetron

What's wrong with using the X, otherwise known as the Chi, which was the greek letter used as the first letter in Christ. Ever heard of the Chi Ro, used by Constantine after his conversion. We do know history, right? XMas or Xtian isn't an attack on Christianity but rather a symbol of it. It's even used in current campus ministry groups like XA (Chi Alpha). It's a greek letter. Please tell me you know that. Please.

Diana Powe
Diana Powe

I hold a mild opinion that the president is a Christian. However, just like every other human being on the planet, I can't read his mind, so it's an opinion based on the limited public evidence that I've randomly encountered. However, given the fact that whether or not he is a Christian is completely and totally irrelevant to his employment as the chief executive, I don't worry about it, unlike the "deeply troubled" Robert Jeffress.

If you want to be taken seriously, I'd recommend you abandon the right-wing meme that Mr. Obama is referred to or thought of by those who voted for him (such as myself) as our "Messiah". I know its only been just short of 30 months since Sen. McCain got crushed in the election, but you really need to stop whining. In fact, I have many serious complaints about his job performance but they're based on fact-based situations relating to what he actually controls, like our illegal war in Libya.

Guest
Guest

I, myself, am a Christian. I, like Mr. Jeffress, am even a Southern Baptist.

But, unlike Mr. Jeffress, I take all ten of the Commandments seriously. I don't skip the 9th Commandment just so I can try to score some political points against some person I believe to be an "other".

Montemalone
Montemalone

I vote for the part about gettin' votes from redneck rubes. Thing is, I doubt one voted for him.

Erich S
Erich S

I have no problem with Christians. There are some very reasonable, sane religious people whose opinions I respect. It's the ones who don't seem to follow Jesus Christ that I have a problem with. Do your research and find out about the sordid history of the First Baptist Church of Dallas. It's disgusting how they treated African-Americans in the '60s and now how they treat homosexuals. I honestly don't care if Obama is a Christian or not...like I said why does the POTUS have to be Christian? And btw, I'm not necessarily a fan of Obama either. I can bring up numerous issues I disagree with him on, but it seems to me that the only arguments that the GOP (and its attendent followers) can come up with are that Obama was born in Africa and he's a "Mooslim."

Dallasite64
Dallasite64

You can try to take the "he ain't a Christian, none of you liberal heathens are" stance but it really is a unChrist-like way of going through this life. Jesus chased the hypocrites from the temple and if he were to come today people like Jeffress would be on the top off this list to run them out again.

If you truly are a Christian then you have done everything Jesus instructs in Luke 18:22 and Matthew 25:31-46. Right? I think you need to realign your spiritual thinking. I say this to you as a ordained minster.

Dallasite78
Dallasite78

How perfectly non-responsive Jay Hawk!

Jay Hawk
Jay Hawk

One's faith should be personal and have no effect on his or her ability to govern. It's only the fundamentalists who believe otherwise.

Country Crock
Country Crock

Did Obama have a prayer breakfast for Earth Day??

Guest
Guest

There actually has been an answer as to why President Obama would offer an official proclamation for Ramadan and not for Easter. The actual answer is that the President DID NOT offer an official proclamation for Ramadan (he made a statement at the start of the holiday and continued the tradition that George W. Bush started of hosting a Ramadan dinner at the White House).

I'm not sure why the President should have to answer for something that a supposedly holy person completely made up, but I guess that's the standard that people like you hold him to.

I guess this sort of thing is why First Baptist is so well known as being staunch supporters of the Nine Commandments.

Dr. Chipotle
Dr. Chipotle

I checked the list of official Presidential proclamations dating back to 1789 at http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu... and was not able to find any proclamations in 2009 or 2010 or 2011 that dealt with Muslim holidays (or with any religious holidays from any religion).

Lee
Lee

Yes. There is an answer. The president issued those proclamations to draw attention to observances and other days (earth day) that are not well known and not largely recognized or celebrated. There is no such reason to issue a proclamation for Easter. Should he have (as occasionally happens with other major holidays, like Labor day)? Perhaps. But, the only reason this is being brought up is because of the sophomoric and baseless attacks on Obama's Christianity. It should not matter what religion he is, but people continue to believe he is a Muslim or something else despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

chevytexas
chevytexas

Wait, so there are intelligent cretins? Is this discussion wandering?

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