Stephen Broden Continues Attack on Abortion With Controversial New Billboard in Chicago

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Wonder if all those aborted lives would have been OK to grow up as slaves with a master to take care of them, rather than be born to free parents that don't care anything at all about them and had rather kill them than let them become human? Wouldn't allowing the baby to chose slavery over death be more caring of a race that demanded its freedom and with that freedom demands the right to murder its own children rather than birth them.

Is THIS was the Emancipation Proclamation promised a particular race of PEOPLE? Is this what their Grandmother's CHURCH taught them how to live, respect, and love one another?Or is this just some kind of welfare momma, druggie, worthless life if it feels go do it thing?

If so, why did 500,000 adult Americans give there lives for freeing a bunch of folks...just to gain a right to kill their own.

casey

This is disgusting and appalling.

Tad Banyon

I think in abortion Christians may be exposing a dirty little secret.

Pro-life folks tend to believe that death is not really the end of existence, that there is life after death, and if you go to Heaven, it will be the most amazing, wonderful, problem-free existence imaginable, far superior in every way to life on Earth, with all its pain, suffering and disease.

Death haunts us because its so final and permanent. But if there is just more life immediately following death, what's the problem? That's not death, that's a nap.

It sounds to me like nobody is killing any babies; if anything, they're giving them a better life and sparing them from the only pain they'll ever have to suffer. Its not murder, its a rescue.

If babies go to Heaven, why is going directly to paradise considered to be such an awful thing?

Maybe deep in their heart of hearts, Christians intuit that there is no life after death, that death is final and permanent after all.

That would explain the obsession to make sure every reasonably viable fetus gets an opportunity to experience life on Earth, regardless of .whatever hardships and disadvantages the child is likely to be burdened with.

Because if an aborted fetus gets to skip all the worst parts of his existence and go directly to Heaven to live out an eternity of sheer bliss, that hardly seems like something worth making such a big stink about. Perhaps Christians aren't quite as convinced of everlasting life as they think they are.

Matt Chappel

That was extremely well put.

For the record, I am spiritual, and do in fact believe in an after-life. I was brought up Christian... That said, I think many Christians out there don't even believe what they're selling.

I'm often criticized for not being "emotional" at funerals. I don't cry. I don't make a huge scene and weep, etc... and frequently my family members look at me strangely and wonder why I'm not showing more emotion. I'm almost positive they think there's something wrong with me...

And all I keep thinking is, "If you guys really believe in God and Heaven, you wouldn't be crying about someone's death either, you'd be rejoicing."

So all their over-the-top emotion does is show me that they really do not believe in God... even though they say they do. That's what it looks like anyway. Emotions over death are never about the dead person... But about the void in the living person's life.

I can reconcile being sad for the SELF. But not for the dead. If anything, I ENVY the dead.

Tad Banyon

Its nice to meet someone who, while I don't share their beliefs, I can respect for being logically consistent in them.

Quicksand

and, won't you squeal like a little pig when your life nears its end?

Tad Banyon

That doesn't really have anything to do with my post, but I'll answer it anyway.

I wouldn't put it quite like that- I don't see myself ever squealing, about anything- but I would much prefer to stay alive, yes, thank you.

But if I believed in Heaven, it wouldn't make much sense to get really worked up about having to go there. Wanting to stave off the intense joy and love in Heaven for as long as possible would be like someone buying lottery tickets every week but hoping they don't win until they're so old their organs have started to fail.

busterkeaton

They should outlaw all life. That way this would be a non-issue. Am I being sarcastic? Let me think about it...

John_McKee

And maybe one of those babies getting aborted is the next Hitler? Did you think of that Steve?

We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here. - Richard Dawkins

Lemonaioli

If fewer women would fall for the "baby, I love you" line, there would be fewer unwanted kids. Keep your legs shut, women, or at least have the sense to use birth control.

We all suffer from poor decision makers. Maybe a tiny percentage go on to be leaders. Most end up as dropouts or the fry guy at McDs.

Eyecue_mvk

"You are all white, go to hell."

Matt Chappel

Thanks JWP!!!

richard schumacher

So white men know best what black women should do with their bodies?

warden62

So a black man knows what best any woman should do with her body?

Joe Roberts

Pro-life myself, but the argument in the billboard takes the focus off the real issue.

gabbahey

More hot air from the Pro-Over-Populationists...

rudekarl

Stephen Broden - poster child for retroactive abortion

cheryl spivey

apparently you people talking about Stephen Broden are not Black and have never had an abortionit is a dangerous place to be FROM A BLACK WOMAN WHO HAD AN ABORTION AND NOW HAS NO CHILDREN AS A RESULT OF

Daniel

I'm curious: How is it apparent that none of the commenters are black, and that they've never had an abortion (assuming they go by a gender-neutral moniker)? I'm sorry for your misfortune, but I'm struggling to grasp what it has to do with your race.

Lakewooder

So what you're saying is... abortion is okay unless it prevents you from having a child at some point in the future and/or another abortion. To put it more succinctly, since it didn't work out exactly as planned for Cheryl Spivey, all women (black, white, brown, etc) should lose their right to decide what's best for them.

warden62

Yes, that is usually the result of an abortion.

Paul Miller

It's much higher than that. I just aborted a handful while thinking about fun stuff.

Comacine Master

Paul Miller. Irrelevant cynic. Self-aborting loser.

Lakewooder

Because there aren't enough poverty stricken unweb Mom's raising their children in deplorable conditions.

kss0032

So the thought here is what? That the solution to children growing up in deplorable homes is to terminate their lives? So rather than have an upbringing in a poor home they should not live period? I wonder if they had voices if they would answer the same.

Lakewooder

I'm not going to change your opinion, but. The decision to give birth to a child should always and forever be a woman's choice... not yours, mine, Stephen Broden, the Pope or any other person, who, at the end of the day, will not be tasked with the unimaginable responsibility of carrying the child to term and raising him/her to adulthood. If you think otherwise, you have clearly been brainwashed by religious doctrine. Oh, wait a minute, since it's your religion, it must be right, and all others are wrong. Sorry, my bad. Carry on, and criminalize abortions.

Matt Chappel

I look at it like this... If a baby can survive without the mother, it's wrong to abort it. However, if the baby is still depending upon the mother to live, it's just a parasite. Sorry if that sounds insensitive, but let's be realistic:

A baby in it's early stages of development is an organism who's existence is SOLELY dependent upon the mother. in that case it's the mother's choice to rid herself of the parasite or not. That's why I support a woman's right to choose up until the point in development where the child can survive without the mother's body.

That being said, it's utterly ridiculous (and always will be) to allude to the "choices" of an unborn child. What kind of "choices" does an unborn child make? It sounds silly to even discuss it.

Comments like that more than likely come from parents who let their kids run their lives anyway. I guess people with that frame of mind give their kids' choices precedent over their own. Does anyone here let their kids make the choices for the household? Does any parent here really see their kids choices as more important than their own? I hope not.

Brittanie Shey

@Preston Holler --

Last time I checked, zygotes weren't capable of making decisions. Also, zygotes aren't people. Yet.

Preston Holler

"The decision to give birth to a child should always and forever be a woman's choice... not yours, mine, Stephen Broden, the Pope or any other person, who, at the end of the day, will not be tasked with the unimaginable responsibility of carrying the child to term and raising him/her to adulthood."

In reality, three people are intimately involved in a pregnancy: the father, the mother, and the baby. The man had the choice to engage in sex. The woman had the same choice (except in the case of rape.)

There is only one person who had no choice in the matter: the baby.

Yet, out of those three people, you want the mother's wishes to trump the other two.

Doesn't sound very fair to me. Especially when the man and the woman (again, the individuals who have a choice in the matter) are using abortion as a backstop for being unwilling or too lazy to go to a pharmacy before having sex.

Max

"If you think otherwise, you have clearly been brainwashed"

Oh, the irony......

Btw, i happen to be agnostic and yet, somehow, i still understand that every innocent baby deserves a shot at life regardless of their parents financial situation. Maybe it's because i was born to a single mother on welfare, thankfully she didn't subscribe to your worldview of killing people based solely on their monetary worth.