Fox-y News' Own Numbers Show the Talibaptists Haven't Won Yet

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Today the Dallas school board meets to hear the possible "good news" from the superintendent -- that the district may only have to fire a quarter of its teachers instead of a third, depending on how badly the Rick Perry Banana Republicans and the TeeTee Party in Austin underfund public schools this year.

Meanwhile, we keep getting this drumbeat from our only local daily newspaper: On February 23 The Dallas Morning News published an editorial about Wisconsin teachers in which it talked about "union-driven mobs massing at the state capitol" and said, "There are limits to the insanity."

Strange times. Fox News is always flogging the wares of Sarah Palin, telling us how much we hate health-care reform, hate Obama and can't wait for Congress to kick his ass. Here in Dallas, we're sort of inside the bottom drawer at the back of the closet in the echo chamber. Who knows what's really real?

I've been poking around a bit for a column I'm writing on schools for next week's paper, trying to peek over the wall, and guess what! I think the news is good, in a way. The real world is way better than our world.

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Stop the presses: Fox News may not be fair and balanced!
If you ignore what the Foxzis tell you on TV and look instead at the backup data for their own polling stories, the picture you will see in Fox's own numbers is the opposite of the propaganda they spew on the air. You will find out, for example, that President Obama's approval ratings have been rising for a year and are now the best they have been since September 2009. A majority of us are back in his camp.

Apparently most of us think Palin is a fool. We would vote against her and for Obama by almost 2-to-1 in a head-on match-up, according to Fox's latest polls.

Asked about Palin against other Republican candidates, only 40 percent of the Republicans polled said they would vote for her, and a solid 56 percent said they would definitely vote against her.

By the way, a Bloomberg poll shows that 63 percent of Americans do not believe we should violate contracts with public employees to take away their pension benefits. Of those polled, 64 percent said public employees should have the right to bargain collectively, including a plurality of Republicans.

And back to that Fox poll, while we're at it. While a majority of us approve of the job Obama is doing, we disapprove of the job Congress is doing by 2-to-1. Only 15 percent of us think the Congress should be messing with Obamacare.

Oh, and there are some more polls I'll tell you about next week that find that we're quite open-minded as a nation about gay marriage and abortion.

So the real headlines, if Fox told the truth? AMERICANS TRUST OBAMA, THINK PALIN NUTS. COUNTRY TO CONGRESS: YOU'RE NUTS TOO. HANDS OFF OUR DAMN HEALTHCARE!

Maybe the rest of the country hasn't been taken over by the Talibaptists yet, even if we have. That's good. I think. More on this next week in the paper.


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Ken325
Ken325

I am normally a fan of Fox, because the rest of the media is so bad, but lately Fox is just not trying very hard.  You see the same talking heads on every show talking about the same issues every day.  The entire media establishment (including Fox) is focusing on irrelevant stories that have nothing to do with the things that really matter.  Casey Anthony may be interesting to some people, but is this story important? The Federal Government is about three weeks away from default, about half of all the states are on the verge of bankruptcy, and a lot of major cities are basically bankrupt.  Several European countries are bankrupt and this could throw the financial world into chaos. We have lots of banks that are in trouble, foreclosures, and depreciating home values.  The middle-east is a mess.  The reporters that wanted to show a picture of every single casket coming home from Iraq during the Bush presidency completely ignore Iraq and Afghanistan now.  No one is talking about the unconstitutional conflict (whatever we call it) that is going on in Libya. We had a nuclear power plant in Nebraska that was damaged by flooding and it got almost no coverage even after the situation in Japan.  The media coverage is so bad that I am starting to think that it has to be a conspiracy of some kind.  Thank goodness we have the internet or we would be stuck with nothing but trial coverage, and face book pictures from a NY congressman with an unfortunate name.   As to the election- The Republicans cannot get the best candidates to run because the economy is so bad that the next president will have to push extremely unpopular austerity measures.  The best candidates see this and are avoiding this election.    @ Jim- I am a fan of yours because of your fantastic local coverage.  This is a big thing because I have never been a fan of a journalist before.  Please do not ruin this by getting on the bash conservative women kick that so much of the media is on.  Sarah Palin has faced 10X the critical media coverage of any other politician. She may not be the best candidate but she is not dumb.  She has made fewer mistakes and is more qualified than lots of politicians.  I’m not saying that I would vote for her but the media coverage of her has been extremely biased.   

Cliffhanger
Cliffhanger

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The easiest job in the world has to be being a fact-checker at Fox News.

Ed D.
Ed D.

It can't be easy finding somebody willing to put that job title on their resume.

Thelisma Partridge
Thelisma Partridge

Dude, don't you think a fact checker at Fox would just lie on their resume too?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Remember when Jim used to go crazy about the dumb things Dallas politicians were doing? I miss those days. Now it's all far left conspiracy theories that are even outside the solidly left, liberal mainstream. This, from a liberal who believes more than his fair share of conspiracy theories.

scottindallas
scottindallas

What is the liberal mainstream? Where is that found? It's not on TV. Where is abolishing the death penalty a raging issue in this state? For every person on death row we throw five others out on the street. We could incarcerate for life a man for 1/5th the cost of the death penalty trial and requisite "super due process" that still has missed men proved innocent. Illinois just abolished the death penalty on moral grounds, but I want it revoked on Fiscal Conservative grounds! Why isn't this repeated in the so called "liberal mainstream" Where is it? Who are it's standard bearers? I don't know many liberals who are smart enough to read Ralph Nader, but many people who believe whatever is trendy. Many here! Where is the opposition to ethanol on waste and pollution reasons, on reasons of food scarcity?

I don't think there's any liberal mainstream. I KNOW there's no "Liberal Media" When does Dennis Kucinnich get on TV? We're being distracted into submission.

JimS
JimS

Anonymous: you think it's a far left conspiracy theory to point out that the Foxzi Obama-bashing scenario is contradicted by their own polling data and then present the data as proof? You know what, Anonymous: I think you think reality is a far left conspiracy theory. If the bathroom scale tells you you've put on a few, you probably think that;s a far-left conspiracy, too.

Phelps
Phelps

You forgot the part where over half the country thinks HCRA was already repealed.

http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls...

Tends to skew the numbers on who thinks that Congress shouldn't be messing with it.

DblTee
DblTee

Half is 22% now? Even if you count the "Don't Know/Refused", it's still less than the 52% of people that said "It is still the law of the land".

ARCHcowboy
ARCHcowboy

on the school topic... the film "Waiting for Superman" talks a lot about the US school system and how the teacher union has protected under-achieving teachers making the needed changes difficult (at best). It's worth a watch.

Guest
Guest

I agree it was a good watch, but I'm not sure the solution is quite as easy as the film purports it to be.

The five states that don't allow teachers unions to collectively bargain aren't the five or six highest ranking states when it comes to education, and while I applaud Geoffrey Canada and the success of his school in Harlem, the film does gloss over the fact that his students aren't randomly assigned. The students who apply to enter his school have parents who value their kids' education enough to sign them up for the drawing to try to get into the school (and the film didn't mention it but there was a study recently that showed that students who applied to a charter school and didn't get in still achieve at a higher level than the average students in the non-charter schools, leading some to speculate that having a parent who values education enough to attempt to get his kid into a charter school makes a difference in and of itself.

The film didn't delve too deeply into how the boots-on-the-ground teaching methods differed in the charter schools vs. the regular schools (aside from the mention of how the one Houston teacher would create songs to teach the lesson and some vague sense of having higher expectations).

I'm not sure we truly know what makes a good teacher or how to measure how good a teacher is. I'm not entirely sure we know how to measure student success. There are plenty of high-scoring high school graduates who don't know how to apply whatever knowledge they do have (and, ultimately, without the ability to apply knowledge, that knowledge is just trivia).

We, as a society, certainly need to rethink how our schools work and don't work, but "get rid of the unions" isn't going to be quite the beacon of everlasting hope in solving the problems as that film makes it out to be.

scottindallas
scottindallas

I liked and agree with what you said but this, I'M UTTERLY OUTRAGED, jk I want to comment on this point. "I'm not sure we truly know what makes a good teacher"

We do know how to teach effectively, it all hinges on the kids own interests. Countless studies encourage student centered development. This has focused primarily in the teaching of Grammar, but that's a terrific paradigm. They encourage finding something the student is interested in, and then helping them to explore that. If it be rocket ships, one can teach math, science and even off of that the philosophical and historical elements that lead us to rocketry.

If we ask him to express himself, we can help him by showing him how grammatical rules apply to what he's written. You get to work with something that is relevant to him that he is invested in.

The problem with this method is that the district can't dictate the curriculum. The need to test and measure achievement offers no pedagogic benefit, though it certainly is necessary for the employee/employer relationship. Your questions asked, how do we measure? Not how do we achieve.

Guest
Guest

They encourage finding something the student is interested in, and then helping them to explore that.

I guess my issue is how to do that each day with every subject with 30 or so students all with potentially different interests. (And, I would say that it's a lot easier to say this than it is to do it effectively).

And I only asked how we measure because we (or administrators) need to have a way to know who's the good teacher and who isn't. And, for good or for bad, that requires some system of measurement or comparison. Does achievement exist if it isn't measurable? How do we even define student achievement? (I know I was going to get good grades in school regardless of what it took to get them because it was expected of me in my home. But just because I was able to get good grades doesn't necessarily mean I learned what I was supposed to have learned, nor does it necessarily mean I had teachers who were good, bad or otherwise. In my memory, I think of my teachers as being good overall, but I do know I went from having a 103 average in Physics as a senior in high school to struggling to get a D in Physics for Non-Science Majors at Texas Tech a few months later).

Titus Groan
Titus Groan

Talibaptists. That's genius.

quellepotat
quellepotat

yeah, how predictably glib and ha,ha funny. A typical response from the fertile "intellect" of the famous misogynist "protector "of the underclass and human waste product obsessed Mr.Jim (tete de lard) "Shoots". We can all rest easy that Mr. Jim's personal philosphy has brought him such peace of mind and clarity of reasoning.

Guest
Guest

Despite being a member of a (private sector) union, I've always been wary of the idea of collectivism in any form, probably due to my buying in to the whole rugged individualism that we Texans frequently like to pretend we're all about (like we'd be out rasslin' bears if we didn't have an important work thing to tend to).

But I keep watching this Wisconsin thing (and "Waiting for Superman"), and I keep seeing people saying that the ability of public sectors unions to collectively bargain is causing our schools to fail and our budgets to be unbalanceable.

So, if public sector unions and collective bargaining is what causes these problems, then we, as a state that expressly outlaws public sector collective bargaining, should have the #1 school systems in the nation and should have no trouble balancing the budget without having to cut billions of dollars.

Even Rick Perry is finding it tough to find scapegoats (I liked his quote yesterday. That it's not his fault that the school districts spent the money they received from Austin on educating the children of their districts. They should've known better than to expect that the state would continue to fund the education that state and federal law requires.)

scottindallas
scottindallas

You are making a false dichotomy here. I know that you're picking this up from others with larger agendas, namely anti-labor, anti-union billionaires. That alone doesn't discount their argument, but we must acknowledge the bias. I agree that if it's difficult to fire, or not re-hire for the next year a teacher that is ineffective, it should be made easier. But, this could be MOST EASILY achieved through a union, in cooperation with the union. They should know best, and the administration can enjoy some indemnity by working with the union.

So, rather than argue for these changes. Rather than encouraging debate and discussion on this issue, an issue that will never be "solved" or "fixed." This is a difficult issue for private firms regardless of union membership, it's one of those aspects of employer/employee relations period. So, we're not missing some easy fix, we're not even getting an financial/fiscal savings in the case of Wisconsin. Gov. Christie has said he doesn't understand the need to do this, but prefers to speak only for NJ. He said, he's eager to sit down with them.

So, why the attack on unions? It's part of a larger self-serving agenda.

Guest
Guest

I don't think I was the one making the false dichotomy. My point is that, if unions are to blame like so many people seem to be saying these days, then in states without such unions, we should be sitting pretty. But we're obviously not, so, clearly, busting the unions isn't going to achieve what those who aim to bust the unions claim it will.

My point was that we could get rid of all public sector unions tomorrow all across the country and still be faced with the same problems. Demonizing the unions, in my opinion, doesn't come from a desire to actually try to solve any of the problems that face us.

Xanax Warlock
Xanax Warlock

Say whatever you want about Palin, (If she had any credibility as a viable canidate, she lost it all by being on a reality show.) But look. The healthcare bill is bad. Healthcare reform is needed, but this bill is just BAD. At the very least, its bad timing. Even Blue States like Maine are trying to wiggle out of it by getting exemptions. Maine received a three-year waiver of federal rules, contained in the 2010 health-care law on Tuesday.

Oak Cliff Townie
Oak Cliff Townie

Oil price High during Bush years Praise Company Profits and use of Wes Texas Crude. Don't like it ride a bike.Oil price High during Obama Years President at fault must be in cahoots with Brother Arabs. Obama wants to take away you freedom to drive.Bush Kiss lips of Saudi Prince hold hands walking "OKAY" following Traditions.Obama Slight Bow to a foreign leader Fox might claim Left wing media edit kiss on Leaders back side out .

Am I catching on JIM?

Tobynestor1982
Tobynestor1982

Jim "Shotgun Tough" Schutze, you're unhinged. The sad psychopathology of the ideologue... the depths of depravity knows no limits. Your Burroughs-esque photo says it all: pseudo-intellectual poseur. The sad thing is, when you write about, say, riding the Trinity in a canoe, you are clear, witty, articulate, and informative. Know your limits, "Shotgun Tough."

Bri3131
Bri3131

How can you say they have been rising for a year when his approval rate was 40% in Dec, 2010. You mention the last high in Sept, 2009 at 50% then you see a steady 12 month decline and just wait till gas hits $4. So you see what you want to see and then complain about Fox doing the same thing.

Survey Says
Survey Says

Statement : "A majority of us are back in his camp."

51% approval rating with a +- margin of error at 3%.

Reality : A majority of us are probably back in his camp.

EDM
EDM

Please don't obfuscate the propaganda with facts ....

Coleman
Coleman

I'm just exhausted from hearing how the Teabaggers are "REAL AMERICANS" and the rest of us can go pound mud.

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