(Trail Safety) Signs o' the Times

Engmofo

I'd just like to say that the next asshat that sneaks up behind me ,without so much as a "On your Left" ,& then "tut tut's" all the way around me,is going to en up with 42" of longboard (skateboard) where the sun don't shine .

Robert Wilonsky

Here's the piece Channel 8 ran last night on the signs:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local...

Terribleted

Robert,

I proposed the speed limits simply because the idiots on the expensive cycles, whom I encounter everday, will not use their collective heads. They are usually well off financially, ride bikes costing up to 14K, ride in packs and create dangerous situations. All the educational signs in the world will not impact that group. I watch them run stop sigsn, weave in and out of pedestrian traffic and baby strollers.

I met with the Police, Parks, City Council members, Senior Park Board, well in advance of the tragic death on the Katy. Media have used radar guns to track speed and all that is out in the public for viewing.

Shame on Sheffie Kadane and Angela Hunt, the City Council and the Police Dpt.

Indano

Two things - the trail was built with Xportation dollars, so theoretically, CYCLISTS have the right of way. Second - there was an article in the NY Times about 'Distracted Pedestrians' and the troubles they cause. May I suggest that pedestrians 'walk aware' sans headphones?

And a third as a bonus. The STOP signs on Knox and the other intersections are legal. Make the cyclists STOP, LOOK LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, and then resume. Until the cops practice this themselves, and then enforce it, you're going to get user-conflict. The best thing to do would be to put pipes up so that cyclists and pedestrians were forced to wiggle through a chicane that slowed them down, but heaven help FOKT if they ever were to submit to law & order.

Oh fer cryin out loud! Why can every other city in the world 'get this" very simple concept but Dallas?????

John_McKee

They should just put up a bunch of signs that say "HEY MORON, NOTICE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE HERE, DON'T BE AN IDIOT/JERK WITH REGARDS TO THEM"

Nunya

Won't make a difference. Signs can't make up for stupidity, no matter how nice they look. Only thing to do is post trail cops out there to ticket the offenders.

By the way, it's perfectly reasonable to wear headphones on the trail so long as you look before you move and are aware of your surroundings.

These signs are a mockery of safety. Signs are supposed to be ugly, simple and easy to understand. It's why they are usually elementary shapes with bright colors and Helvetica font. These demonstrate why graphic designers should not be allowed to be in charge of anything. FoKT and Angela: D- on this one.

LOOK at how retarded this is. U

These signs are FoKT

ChrisU

too bad this conversation has to devolve to a Sportatorium style piss match(sorry Richie)the Trail is something Dallas can be proud of, there's room for everybody if we just use some common sense. is anybody else sick of the word douchebag?

Hey, if the spandex fits...

Hannibal_Lecter

"...when a cyclist crashed into the jogger along the Katy Trail"

According to press accounts of the incident, that would be more accurately phrased "...when a clueless, unobservant pedestrian stepped in front of a moving vehicle."

Yakuza_Fighter

"Moving vehicles" belong on the street - not on a "trail" trying to zigzag their way in and out of pedestrians while trying to set a new land speed record.

Montemalone

WTF does ROUP mean? And how does it relate to walking in twos? Is this supposed to mean don't walk 4 abreast across the whole trail arm-in-arm with the stroller and grandma's walker so that no-one from either direction can pass?

Oak Cliff Townie

These signs are an example of what happens when people are able to remember what ideas they came up with while Smoking POT !

Scruffygeist

How safe is it to come to a dead stop to try and figure out over-designed signs?

Plus the merge one looks more like boobs.

Andy

All I get out of that one is the Olympics. Well, that was all I got, until I read your interpretation. Now I get some sort of disturbing hybrid message. Point is, I don't get "Merge". Too clever by half.

Yakuza_Fighter

Where is the No "Lance Douchebag" sign?

Montemalone

Wouldn't do any good,. They all think it applies to someone else.

JonnyDallas

Are you kidding me?

Those signs make no sense at all.

I have a better idea.

No riding race bikes in packs. Make it race bike specific. If a group of people want to get together and ride mountain bikes or bmx bikes or unicycles or whatever, great. Go for it. No packs of race bikes period. If you get caught you lose your fancy bikes and stupid outfits. We're giving the bikes to poor kids and burning the stupid outfits.

Once again, those signs make no sense at all.

Montemalone

Make sure the douchebags are still in the stupid outfits when you burn them.

dcg

I ride my bike with one earbud in - in fact the other one is clipped off because the dangling action was annoying. Works great and I can hear things around me.

Rico

Two's ?

Those signs are so stupid, especially the merge ahead sign. For the life of me, I will never understand why cities continue to play cutsie with safety sign designs (and waste a whole bunch of money on consultants, Marketing firms and graphic artists) when we already have some pretty basic universal signage. A lot of bike trails have been adopting ski signs (and modifying a few ones based on their particular trail systems), because no matter what country you're from or what language you speak, everyone pretty well knows those safety signs. Trail builders have been recommending that for years, and the City Park and Rec Dept is well aware of it. But no, they go full-steam ahead with wasting tax-payer money for some deign team to come up with a completely brand new (and somewhat confusing) signage nomenclature.

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These signs are not what were discussed ad-naseum with senior City Staff and Police and Parks. The cycling clubs all were upset aout proposed speed limits. If the idiots in spandex cannot use common sense, they need get tickets. OH, yea, no ordinances on the hike/bike trails. You should not be surrpised that the lack of ordinances is intentional

G_David

The only thing I would add is some sort of "no headphones" icon.

pak152

addressed by the Look & Listen icon. note the smile shows the volume turned down

G_David

No, I mean a "no headphones" icon. Turning the volume down doesn't do much when people are wearing noise canceling earbuds. Which I've seen a surprising number of people wearing around White Rock.

pak152

but how does one identify noise cancelling earbuds from ones that aren't? I wear small headphones that aren't noise cancelling