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Cortes to Deputies: "Me Going Down and Eating Bologna Sandwiches Doesn't Scare Me."

By Jim Schutze, Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 5:16PM
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Constable Jaime Cortes
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Unfair Park has waited all day for a response from Larry Friedman, one of several lawyers representing embattled Dallas County Constable Jaime Cortes, concerning a digital sound recording somebody made of a meeting yesterday involving Cortes and 30 of his deputies. At 9 this morning he said he would get a copy to Cortes and come back with a comment. Time's up.

The audio file -- a scratchy recording from a device somebody must have had inside a pocket -- features Cortes warning his deputies not to cooperate with ongoing criminal investigations of Cortes. The source who sent it to Unfair Park, who is familiar with the back story on Cortes's problems, believes the recording catches the constables threatening and intimidating witnesses in a criminal investigation.

Friedman didn't call us back to speak for Cortes. But Unfair Park thinks there are probably at least a couple of ways to read the transcript of the recording provided by the same source. The exculpatory version would be that Cortes was merely trying to buck up morale and show his troops that he is unbowed.

On January 28 Cortes's top deputy and the deputy's wife were arrested on several charges, the result of separate investigations by Dallas County Judge Jim Foster and Dallas County District Attorney Craig Watkins of corruption in Cortes's office. Some witnesses also have reported being questioned by the FBI.

The source who provided the recording and transcript to Unfair Park asked not to be named in order to avoid compromising the investigations. The source claimed to have spoken with more than one person present at the meeting yesterday in Cortes's office. The source said the impression conveyed by them was that Cortes was warning people not to cooperate with law enforcement investigators. They told the source Cortes wanted them to know that he would get their names, that he would be out of jail soon on bond if arrested and that those who had wives and children should remember that Cortes is a tough guy from West Dallas.

A full transcript follows.
Staff meeting at Constable Office Precinct 5
February 3, 2010
Jaime Cortes speaking to about 30 staff members


[Noise in room]

... When I first came over as Constable Cortes, I think I aggravated ... On the day I stood there and I put my hands down... [interruption, followed by something unintelligible]

This is about officers being arrested and indictments coming down. If they come down, I'm still gonna be here. Those who are ... who decided to go to the other side ... when I asked a long time ago to let's leave the politics out of it.

If you are on the other side, I know who you are.

Let me say it again in case you are recording it: I know who you are.

But if you decide to be .. That's fine, what I am saying. I am not going anywhere. If they decide to indict me, remember what an indictment is. It's an indictment. You still have a trial now. ... It's not an admission of guilt. But you have deputies here. I know we got deputies that are calling you, telling you to talk to somebody, to talk to Danny Defenbaugh, to the FBI, the DA. Go up there and let them try to steer you.

Because what they are trying to do is what they are accusing me of doing. They are coercing you. That's coercion, and they can be disciplined for it. So if you can report it if you believe there is coercion being involved with them around this.

Just so you know it -- I am here, I am still here and I am gonna be here. All right. Let the rumors fly. [Unintelligible]

I got my file clerk ready to go. And I got my attorneys ready to go. All right.

I got a lawyer. Guess what, he calls here everyday. I got attorneys that invite me, the documents they send me ... [Unintelligible, followed by something about Rockwall].

Constable Cortes is over West Dallas. I grew up here. [Unintelligible]

When those others -- I forget their names, but they're on the ballot -- when they say I am soft, I fought too hard to get here. Do your job. If you have any concerns about me, indictments, whatever, it's not your problem. You don't have to talk to the investigators downtown. By the way, they are calling me too. They are trying to step on me, man. [Unintelligible] I met them for five minutes.

I had to put it out there. Too much is being said. You are hearing it from me. If any indictments come down on me or any of you all. If it comes down on me, I am here. If I have to take a ride, but I'll be back. But I will still be here. Indictments are indictments. That's it. So there it is out of my mouth, so you don't think I am running around scared, that I am up there hiding and stuff. He's hiding.

I have been gone the last few weeks. But no one said nothing about that. I have been shaking hands, but in the last week I supposed to be hiding.

Really, guys, ladies, you forget what I said when I got here and forget where I was raised. I got thrown from a pick-up when I was 21. I stayed in ICU for a week. I almost lost my life. Me going down and eating bologna sandwiches doesn't scare me. No, not at all.

Some of you have a wife and kids. I am a public official. My life is this office. I am not like some of you that are married and do your thing and go home.

My life is an open book. [Unintelligible]. The bottom line is, we are precinct No. 1 in serving paper. Number one. [Interruption]

So, if anything, we are doing our jobs. And that's the key. The structure and discipline we put in. And the turnover rate that we had, people that we had that were not happy and left, the people who were not up to par with doing their job. If you can't do the job, [unintelligible] me. We are gonna bring it to you. That's all we ever asked you to do was do your job.

We got so many chiefs that want to be responsible, don't talk about it. Come to the office and tell me, "I think we should do it this way." Don't come down to the office ... [unintelligible]. Are you all comfortable with that?

Say, "Hey, constable, I got an idea. Why don't we do it this way?" If I don't hear from you, how am I supposed to know?

But you get what you ask for. A lot of times you don't think I listen, but I listen, but nobody ever sees that. You go over there and see if some other agency will let you screw up four or five times and see if they keep you. The second or first time you are gone. None of your little figures will say that.

I just want you to know, I am here. If I have to go take a ride, get a bond person, we have an attorney. I got two attorneys.

Some of your friends downtown who is a Republican down there [unintelligible] manufactured charges they founded on one-sided story don't want to say the whole side of the story. Mr. Defenbaugh throws it to the FBI. It's not gonna be that simple. You have to remember I live in a big house, not a small house. [Unintelligible]

Jaime Cortes, Constable Precinct 5, we will still be here. If you have any questions go for it. Anytime an officer doesn't feel he can own up to it, write it down on a piece of paper and give it to your supervisor. He will bring it up.

We have some 30 days before the election March 2nd. Cortes will have the majority. [Unintelligible]
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Comments (26)

Thelisma Partridge says:

Was that in English?

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 5:50PM
c'mon says:

And as the chief he is supposed to the best and the brightest of his little fiefdom? No wonder none of his employees can get hired on by real PDs.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 6:42PM
oak cliff says:

haha,I think on the paragraph that said he has a big house is backwards,he has a small house

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 7:23PM
ChrisU says:

he knows he's on his way out and used the bologna line to set himself up for a desk at City of Ate.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 8:21PM
Michael in LH says:

Wow. And someone wants to put this genius in jail? What kind of society locks up their best and brightest?

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 9:45PM
Anonymous says:

Paul Blart - County Constable

Get that man a Segway ASAP.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 10:18PM
Domingo Garcia says:

From: Larry Friedman
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:53 AM
To: 'Jim Schutze'
Subject: RE: Question from Schutze Dallas Observer

JIM: I have forwarded the audio file to my client and I am waiting to hear back from him. In the meantime, I have read the transcript. I sounds to me like “someone” is trying to say that he is honest, has nothing to hide, and won’t be intimidated by the establishment. The speaker, whoever that is, appears to be saying that indictments are just that, charges, allegations, accusations, claims, and complaints. I interpret that as saying that he is “innocent until proven” and that he will never be proven guilty because he is NOT GUILTY. The speaker goes on to emphasize how he came from nothing and worked hard to get where he is and my interpretation is that he is saying that he wouldn’t jeopardize his position for anything. In sum, I don’t interpret the communication as threatening, but I wasn’t there and, of course, it IS only a partial transcript with parts (maybe important parts) missing. The transcript and the recording does not have integrity as evidence and you know would not amount to evidence in a court of law. The better story, in my opinion, is the dishonesty of the person who doesn’t have the integrity to say that he/she is recording the communication and honestly confront the speaker and give the speaker a fair chance to say his piece on an even playing field. I will let you know as soon as I hear from my client. –Larry

P.S. All of the above is on the record.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 11:28PM
Bob says:

"Cortes is a tough guy from West Dallas"? In that outfit he is wearing he looks like a two-bit general from some banana republic (and I don't mean the clothing store).

Did he buy that uniform, or is it a rental from a costume shop? If he slams a riding crop into his palm when he addresses the troops, I am gonna have to change channels.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 11:34PM
Bob says:

nice janitor uniform Jaime Cortes...this is Dallas at its best...

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 12:50AM
scott says:

"The better story, in my opinion, is the dishonesty of the person who doesn’t have the integrity to say that he/she is recording the communication and honestly confront the speaker and give the speaker a fair chance to say his piece on an even playing field."

Domingo wrote this, even though so long as one party to a conversation, a group meeting at that chooses the record that, there is no problem there. However, Domingo, there may well be veiled threats in that speech, those aren't legal.

Your "My client's rubber, you're glue" argument is simply juvenile. You, in your capacity as a lawyer are nothing but a venal mercenary, but that charge is beneath even slug slime. You sir, have set a new bar.

Further, you had better be careful, a superior ranting as your client did is questionable legally. Is is encouraging his underlings to interfere with an investigation? Couldn't this be considered witness tampering?

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 7:21AM
RULES says:

Lets not forget that most agencies have procedures about officers desseminating information to the media. Whoever recorded a meeting that was for officers only more than likely is violating procedure "IF" they release it to media. If they keep it for themselves I think thats okay. In this case the officer should not reveal his or her identity if he or she violated any policies.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 8:53AM
SCamp says:

Fortunately the voters have a chance to elect a strong candidate, Mike Orozco, as the new Constable.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 8:54AM
Grumpy Demo says:


I think he's using the "Don Hill" defense strategy, a prayer vigil on the court house steps is next, followed by a guilty verdict, then jury tampering.

Hey, did The Dallas Pravda News not cite you guys, or did they get the same tape?

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 9:21AM
cp says:

Oh please Larry Friedman, he's having a staff meeting!! Some people who may not agree with their bosses might not like to anger them by telling them they are recording their idiotic rants. Also, please note, Jim posted the transcript on a friggin blog! He didn't send it to a judge and demand an investigation. Get your panties out of a wad and remember, it's wise to remain silent than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Your client sounds like a moron and should keep his mouth shut for his own sake.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 9:25AM
Robert Wilonsky says:

Grumpy, I believe we all received the same tape. I think it came in a box of cereal.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 9:27AM
Phelps says:

That rambling reminded me of the Mayor Hernandez character that George Lopez did on Reno 911!.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 10:12AM
Thelisma Partridge says:

oak cliff says:
haha,I think on the paragraph that said he has a big house is backwards,he has a small house

The one in Oak Cliff may be small, but he only uses it to store campaign signs and park multiple vehicles, all with paper tags.

His Big House(s) are in Garland, under his wife's name.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 10:23AM
SteveT says:

Mr. Garcia, you'd better spend your time coaching your client to keep his big mouth shut while he's being investigated instead of defending his obviously threatening and stupid remarks ("If you're on the other side, I know who you are..let me repeat, I know who you are."). I can see him fingering his gun trigger when he said it.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 10:52AM
FRED says:

Beauford T. Cortes was comical when he walked Ross Avenue during the workday trying to convince property owners that they had better go for changing the name of the street to Chavez.

He's no longer funny.

Please folks, elect Orozco and get rid of this stain on our community.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 1:13PM
Andre says:

Congrats Schutze you got another one. Maybe you could work a little farther north of I-30 for awhile. I realize these people are crooked and to be removed but, you mean to tell me that only the Negroes are dirty.

Hell Jim, Laura Miller took an illegal donation from the same white guys who caused all of this. But she was allowed to walk away unscathed and virgin white.

I've been a Observer reader for years. First Laura miller then you. Protecting North Dallas by targeting South Dallas (True-Genius Son).

Since I have always lived in Fort Worth and have no dog in these fights. I thought I would point this out. By-the-way, I'm of the Negro persuasion and think you are a good writer and NOT a racist.

Just laughing @ Dallas County from Tarrant County.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 5:10PM
gary says:

Am kind of drousy as I read this again, but please, make it easy for me. What are the exact lines that are so threatening? Does "I am here" have some hidden meaning?

Dude's not exactly The Great Communicator, is he? Especially when he suspects he might be on tape. I'm certainly not defending him, don't get me wrong. I was eager to see some gotcha phrases and didn't. But like I said, I'm drousy from dinner.

Drousy or not, I don't recall Laura Miller being careless enough for that Potashnik money to actually be proven as illegal. Iffy? Absolutely. Illegal? I think not. Am I wrong? I am here, though.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 8:14PM
Randy says:

Sorry Domingo, but didn't the guy say, "Let me say it again in case you are recording it: I know who you are." I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't that indicate that he thought or fully expected that he was possibly being recorded? And weren't there a bunch of people who witnessed this speech? Go back to law school moron...

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 9:46PM
Dyan cardenas says:

Mr. Cortez (and I say mister with disdain) is a disgrace to the City of Dallas. Don't we have enough bad publicity. There are good people here and they deserve better. The transcript of the tape sounds like a threat to me. So what he's from West Dallas, does that make him Billy bad ass or something? I threat against the families of anyone who goes against him should be taken seriously and prosecueted as such. Even Mr. garcia should know that. What a shame that the public has to suffer for the transgressions of the few.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 11:06PM
baffled says:

cardenas,

I heard on tape that some officers have wives and families and that they go home to that every day whereas he makes the office his life,you sound like you hear what you want to hear, Cortes hater ? guess your perfect huh ? Go volunteer somewhere and do something productive.

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 6 2010 @ 8:02PM
Don Abbott says:

Wow, I sure wouldn't want to be a Dallas County commissioner. If I was, I'd have the miserable task of completely re-doing the county constables' offices since the public has lost all confidence in these crossing guards with a gun. Money is non-existent, the suspicion is growing daily that the smell coming on southerly winds isn't from the landfill, and the lazy media is getting interested. All that revenue from the speeding tickets will go to starting from the ground up.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 8 2010 @ 9:33AM
Daniel Montes says:

Judge Foster, My name is Daniel Montes. I am writing you concerning Jaime Cortes. I was subjected to excessive force retaliation and suffered physical injuries. Jaime Cortes was present when this occurred along with Jeffrey P. Ransom, Demarquis F. Black, Thomas G. Jones, Derick Evans, Willie Faye Washington and David Bonner.  They were all defendants in my federal civil rights lawsuit that reached the US Supreme Court #07-10.  I do recommend as a citizen that Jaime Cortes be removed from office based on my personal interaction with him and his group.  If you have any questions to call or email me. Thankyou, Daniel Montes, 682-429-7421, danielmonteshernandez@gmail.com

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 22 2010 @ 11:05PM

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