Avi Outs Every Person Arrested for Public Intoxication on Lower Greenville

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signcheers.jpgEverybody needs a hobby, and, of course, Avi Adelman's is keeping track of Lower Greenville's drunks. Adelman, who's taken his obsession to YouTube in recent months, has now gone one step further: He's published the full names of 950 folks arrested on public intoxication charges during 2008. Click here to check if you've been spared.

Dallas Police spokesman Sergeant Gil Cerda tells Unfair Park the department doesn't have a problem with Adelman posting the list; he received it from DPD after submitting an open records request -- and, after all, it is public information. But Cerda stopped short of giving the list his endorsement: "I didn't read it."

So what exactly did the Barking Dog intend with his post? A warning to future offenders, of course.  "Because we have so many drunks," he wrote in an e-mail to the Unfair Park. "To keep them out of the area in case they get drunk again and DON'T get caught...  They are so drunk as to be a hazard to themselves, if they get in the car and drive or if they walk into the neighborhood and get rolled by a bad guy. Enough said??"
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mklitt
mklitt

I don't know what the big deal is. This used to be standard fare for hometown newspapers. My local newspaper (town of 40K) published arrests every day. That was rough when you were a young girl and your father was on that list every few months.

If this stops one person from taking one drink too many, then I lift a glass to Avi.

elbow
elbow

Oh, that is right. Preston Hollow now has to admit that they have Hispanics attending their school--with that whole federal lawsuit decision. I'm sure your friends are ashamed that their kids have to share classroom space with "those people."

As a parent, I think it is my DUTY to prepare my child for the world. Academics is only one part of it. My child will have to get along in a society that is no longer white-majority. He will have to navigate this new world as an adult, and putting him into a school where everyone is a carbon copy of each other (and is exactly like him) has never been an option for me. I want him to see the whole spectrum of our society: white, black, brown...rich, poor...I want him to see the consequences of what happens to you if you do not follow the law, and what happens when you do.

I attended a public school in a bad part of town, and turned out pretty decently. I have a bachelors and a masters. I am the first person in my whole family to have gone to college, and only one of a handful to graduate from high school. Why? My parents nurtured me academically--they did not depend on the school to teach me everything I needed to know. They didn't bundle me off and put my education solely in someone else's hands. They spoke with me about what I was learning in school and then added to it with trips to libraries and museums. They decided that poverty in our branch of the family was going to end with them. And it has.

fred
fred

This parent on great schools disagrees:"Posted October 9, 2007Robert E Lee is an fabulous school. It is a gem right next to downtown Dallas. We transferred our child in from a five figure a year private school-the education is better, the parental involvement is growing by leaps and bounds, and the staff is the height of professionalism. I told someone recently at a Junior League meeting, 'Robert E Lee is the best thing that has ever happened to our family.'"

The parents rank the school at 4 out of 5 stars.

If you really want to spend $30,000 (GLADY - sic) a year to avoid a couple hundred hispanic kids, I guess it is your business. so I will say no more.

RM
RM

Oh Yea - Elbow...

I have several friends that live in Preston Hollow and would not even CONSIDER sending their kids to public school. That was not a very good example on you part.

RM
RM

Elbow and East Dallas Eccentric -

I GLADY pay $13,000 (not $15,000) at year for my child to go to private school. Starting next year, I will have another one in private school.

The ONLY support we had from anyone in DISD was Jack Low. He is the only one who fights for the white MINORITY in public schools. My wife was visiting REL two years ago with Alan Vaught's wife, and were asked to leave by Alicia Zapata (the pricipal).

At one point, there was a website (parentsoflee.blogspot.com) that was used to help the school and the potential parents. All the women that I know that put that together are now gone and have given up on the school. The website has not been updated in a year.

I will not send my child to a school that caters to non-english speaking kids and parents...GOOD LUCK

anon
anon

In this day and age of employers googling potential hirees, I know we do it, I agree that this list does indeed infer the named were guilty of a crime and are drunk enough to be a nuisence...

I had no idea that these people are being arrested and not administered a sobriet test of any kind...

Anonymous
Anonymous

"Nonetheless, these folks are on "the list" and Mr. Adelman infers (1) they are a drunk (FALSE), and (2) they were guilty of a crime (FALSE)."

So does this mean Avi can be sued and who should I go to if I think I have a case?

DFW Public Intox Lawyer
DFW Public Intox Lawyer

Suspiciously absent from Mr. Adelman's list or blog is how those 950 cases were resolved. Did they all result in convictions? If not, the person was not found guilty of anything.

Also, suspiciously absent as well, are the circumstances surrounding these arrests. Think all 950 of these people were wasted, slobbering drunk, falling over, puking, or passed out? Think again.

I've represented dozens and dozens of people charged with public intoxication on lower Greenville. Yes, in a few of these cases, the person was legally intoxicated and was violating the statute. But in many, many other cases, the person did not even come CLOSE to meeting the legal definition of intoxication. Rather, they had handcuffs slapped on them by DPD without so much as a single field sobriety test being administered or even an admission of drinking. And what happens to their cases? They are dismissed on the morning of trial because there isn't any evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt they were intoxicated. Off the top of my head I can recall at least a dozen PI cases I've handled in the last 6 months that were dismissed due to insufficient evidence.

Nonetheless, these folks are on "the list" and Mr. Adelman infers (1) they are a drunk (FALSE), and (2) they were guilty of a crime (FALSE).

http://www.DefendMyPI.com

elbow
elbow

Bigeholmz, with that analogy, the homes around the Bishop Arts district would be worth millions. I find that area far superior to all of Greenville in terms of its varied offerings.

East Dallas Eccentric--gentrification scares just about everyone, but what can you do? Can't stop change. One thing I've always admired about REL is that it does not have portables like Stonewall does. Guess that is what happens when a whole neighborhood insists on redrawing their district lines so they don't have to go to the "bad" school.

East Dallas Eccentric
East Dallas Eccentric

Our elementary schools in the area are all ranked exemplary or recognized and two are blue-ribbon schools. Yes, they exceed many non-DISD schools. Woodrow Wilson High is in the top 2.5% of high schools in the country, according to Newsweek. Its mock trial team recently returned from Harvard after placing second in Texas state competition. It will begin offering the International Baccalaureate in a year or so. Its Fine Arts programs regulary outrank many other schools, including Highland Park - check the Cappie Awards.

I will admit that the hispanic principal of Robert E. Lee apparently did not like the influx of non-hispanics to her school and chased off some of the freaked-out whitebread prospective parents - however, anyone who would let that deter them should probably pay for private schools and good riddance to them. We'll see how those kids turn out in a decade or so...

Bigeholmz
Bigeholmz

In response to "First, as a resident of the area, the bars do not add to the value of my home. The proximity to downtown, the good schools, and the unique architecture are better reasons. "

There are several areas around Dallas that have similar construction and proximity to downtown (see Oak Cliff, the Cedars, Belmont Heights, etc.), but none of them outside of them (sans Kessler Park) remotely compare in price to the Greenville area. Why? Because people like being close to the bars, restaurants and retail associated with the area. The schools, even the good ones, simply do not measure up to their non-DISD counterparts.

As far as Avi is concerned, he should try and live life without hassling so many people. You'll be a better, happier person for it.

Greenville Resident
Greenville Resident

This guy is real piece of work. What real tax paying citizen has time to harrass businesses day and night? He keeps complaining about over time pay to our officer's, however, I don't see how it affects him because he pays absolutely no taxes. **He reminds me of a whiny kid angry because nobody will play with him. On another note, even if he looks for a job nobody in Dallas will hire him. What company wants an idiot like him disclosing important information to the public?

Greenville Resident
Greenville Resident

Let me take a moment and give you the truth about Avi Adelman. - He just began charging for his website, therefore using the local news as a marketing tool. -He has not had a real job for about 8 years and has been living off of the Lower Greenville businesses collecting extortion money. -He resides at 5715 Belmont Avenue and owns the ugliest home on the block. The house should be condemn. Code compliance should really pay him a visit. -He is on the verge of getting evicted for not paying his mortgage in a few months. -He has nothing better to do than walk the street of Greenville and harrass business owners.

-No credibility, no education, and no job. I would classify him as a BUM.

betruthful
betruthful

Rock on RM!!!!!! Did you know that 21.8% of DISD is the attendance number of illegal immigrants (per TEA public records). That is where our tax $ go. To transforming the administrations into Spanish speaking administrations so we can teach kids that are children of illegals in their native language on our nickel-sorry dollars these days- billions of dollars.Then if your young kids don't like the all Spanish non diversified school, you can spend $15000 a year to send them to private and still pay taxes for public.And none of their parents names are on that list!Or are they?

Bill Marvel
Bill Marvel

There seems to be some sentiment on this forum in favor of public drunkeness and against holding up to ridicule those who insist upon inflicting their behavior on the rest of us.Simple problem, simple solution: If you don't want to make Avi's list, learn to hold your likker.

elbow
elbow

...and Bonham is exemplary. Lee is now recognized (just like Preston Hollow and Lakewood).

Bill
Bill

One thing about Public Intox arrests: They require absolutely no evidence. No breathalyzer, no blood test, no walking a straight line, no nothing. All they require is a cop saying "I think he's intoxicated". So they are *frequently* used as a way to arrest someone who's only crime is getting on a cop's bad side.

Toots
Toots

What? Avi doesn't take care of his own house and yard? His own dwelling is an eye sore and hurting the very neighborhood he is trying to help? Wild stuff. And judging from his Dallas Creative site I can see why his Crime report service is a rip-off.

............and I still stand by my claim that in 5 years Avi will have his own show and making serious cash. Look at Anna Nichole Smith, she rode mediocrity the full 8 seconds and only got thrown off when she stopped caring and let go of the rope.

Hold on to the rope Avi!!! Don't hang yourself with it.

RM
RM

HEY ELBOW -

Good schools? Don't you mean good SCHOOL? Stonewall is a good school, but Robert E Lee is horrible. I live in the 6000 block of Vanderbilt, and would not THINK of sending my kids to REL. That school is so bad, that the ENTIRE upstairs is used as a storage facility.

There was a real push to help REL become a viable option, but the pricipal fought that help tooth and nail...now (from what I understand) those people have given up and joined my kids in private school...

YAY DISD - fine job spending my tax dollars...a-holes!

Sid Nancy
Sid Nancy

Obama is right about bringing change. For once I agree with Religion of Bacon. Oh and THANKSALOT BETHANY, I laughed so hard at your post that I spit bongwater all over my steering wheel.

Toots
Toots

Randy says:

Why does Unfair Park give this guy a forum? -------------------------------------------

That's easy. He provides Robert with material. That way, Wilonsky can concentrate on other endeavors.

David Brauss
David Brauss

In a state with loose gun laws I wouldn't be doing that if I were him. Unless you have a picture of the car or of the person there is no point in putting the names up. At least SenorSpeedy did some analysis and made some sort of intelligent synopsis. Please please please let the day come that mr straight edge himself gets busted, oh please!!!

Betheny
Betheny

When I saw this I was so stunned I ate a whole loaf of Mrs. Baird's Extra Thin White Bread by mistake thinking they were big, sensual puffy potato chips. Then I wrote about it.

Oh, and another question, Avi. How can you be so old and yet still be named for a media file format that wasn't even invented until long after you were born? Huh? Huh? I have to go pee now, but I'm not going to let this one go unanswered. Oh, I hope all that white bread doesn't cause a poostorm. Oy.

chris von danger
chris von danger

My inlaws live right down the street from him on belmont and ive been by "Casa De Avi" many times, Why he hasnt sunk any money into the house is a question id liked asked accordingly.

elbow
elbow

First, as a resident of the area, the bars do not add to the value of my home. The proximity to downtown, the good schools, and the unique architecture are better reasons.

Bars are actually a detractor. My house was on the market for almost 2 years before I bought it. Most people who can afford a house in the area aren't interested in the bars. That being said, my house is far enough away from the bars so I'm not necessarily against them, per se, but I can see where he is coming from.

I suggest that Avi's new hobby be fixing up his eyesore of a house, because it really diminishes the beauty of the neighborhood. Just tidying up the front yard would be a great start, because it looks pretty shabby.

Simmons
Simmons

Seems Puritanical to me. It reminds me of where i grew up, Connecticut, and how they would publish in the daily, the Hartford Courant everyone who was arrested that previous day and what they are being charged with. It all dates back to when the Puritans ran New England....Scarlet Letter type thing....in very tight communities public embarrassment is pretty effective in deterring and punishing. What should only be published are convictions because here it seems like your guilty until proven innocent, which is, truly Un-American and Un-Texan.

Luke
Luke

Avi's home value would be about half of what it is if those bars weren't on lower greenville.Public Intox is a class c just like a traffic ticket. They rarely can be proven. Run that list to check for convictions. It will be low

chris von danger
chris von danger

While I respect Avi's right to publish public records of D&Ds, I have to question some of the motives behind it. He says its for the neighborhood, but I wonder if he really gets some sort of joy out of airing other peoples dirty laundry and video taping to boot. Nothing wrong with being vigilent, just wonder if this has evolved into some sort of damned old fools crusade, his own quixotic version of the tilted windmill if you will.

Also, KRLD did a quick piece this morning, they pronounced his name "aVey" not "aVie", just curious, what is the proper prononciation?

jingo
jingo

really? you can straight link this kind of shit to reddit now?

Mike
Mike

This is only the beginning of the list that will be expanded to all of Dallas and eventually the state.There are groups that are working to add registries for those with drug arrests and other crimes dating back to 15 years. There is also a push going on at the state level to make it official on the states site along with registered sex offenders.I believe that they are asking to register DWI and drug arrests for 10 years on a state registry.Thats not to harsh considering sex offenders are posted for life.

Randy
Randy

Why does Unfair Park give this guy a forum?

BJ
BJ

He who has not sinned, cast the first stone...

religion of bacon
religion of bacon

Good for Avi. Personally, I pretty much gave up on Lower Greenville a long time ago, but I can understand how he feels. Being drunk is one thing, but generally you have to be out of control or blatantly obnoxious to get arrested for public intoxication. Those people tend to be losers who ruin it for everyone else, and they ought to be called out.

Dee
Dee

 That is not true.  I was one of them and I was in the back seat of my friends car with my seat belt buckled not doing anything wrong.  I was not fall down, out of control, obnoxiously drunk.  My friend wrecked the car and the cop refused to let me and another friend call a cab while they took the person driving to jail.  The cop gave us 15 minutes to get a ride or go to jail and since we were from out of town that was a little hard for us to do.  This list is BS.

Gavin
Gavin

I'm outing AVI. HEre's a link to his crappy Graphic Design portfolio. Look at how terrible he is for a man with TONS of free time.

http://www.dallascreative.com/

Maybe it's a joke the creative part. He sent his resume in for every design job I have hired for when he's obviously underqualified to do anything outside of a birthday card for his frie....wait, nevermind.

SenorSpeedy
SenorSpeedy

The list struck me as very "hispanic"-heavy at first glace, so I segregated (heh) the last names into two columns: Hispanic and Non-Hispanic. Very unscientific, of course.

By my calculations, of the 950 people arrested on Lower Greenville, 488 had Hispanic surnames. That's more than half! Very surprising. I assumed it would have been all white SMU fratboys.

On his site, Avi's intro to this list claims that one lady was arrested four times. I found several people arrested more than that, and one woman who was arrested SEVEN times last year. Awesome.

Toots
Toots

I really don't think its a big thing. Public Intox is a misdemeanor. What's next, listing everybody who has gotten a speeding ticket between Bryan and Mockingbird?

ChrisU
ChrisU

I've noticed a lot of bars in that area. Don't want to jump to conclusions here.

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