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Sometimes You Feel Like a Cult, Sometimes You Don't

Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 09:13:50 AM
We can't get enough of Ole Anthony. C'mon. Look at him. He radiates charisma. That's what his lady followers say, anyway.

The controversy surrounding Dallas-based Trinity Foundation and the book I Can't Hear God Anymore: Life in a Dallas Cult, by Wendy Duncan, is going national next week. And then, it's going international. Of course, we were here first: In August we ran a story about Duncan's book in which she says Anthony, who built an international reputation by busting televangelists such as Robert Tilton is spiritually and emotionally abusive toward his followers. Duncan also claims the Trinity Foundation a cult. Though many of his former followers agree, Anthony and members still involved with the group deny many of her allegations.

This month, the book received a rave in the Cultic Studies Review; Dr. Lois V. Svoboda called it a "page-turner" and insisted it "ranks along side of Hassan's Combating Cult Mind Control and other first person cult narratives." On February 8-10, at the Evangelical Ministries to New Religions conference in Birmingham, Alabama, David Clark, an international expert on cults and thought reform, will host a session called "Ole Anthony, the Trinity Foundation and the Cult Controversy." Then, in June, he'll do the same thing at the 2007 ICSA International Conference on Cults in Brussels, Belgium. There, 100 speakers from 22 countries will conduct sessions on everything from recovery for former group members to recent research developments on cult-like behavior.

Which is just dandy with the Trinity Foundation; at least, so it seems from the sounds of silence coming from Anthony's people. But a spokesman for the foundation said in an e-mail that "we have chosen not to respond to the book in order to leave open the possibility of reconciliation with Doug and Wendy."

Because that'll happen.


The program for Clark's session says: "Involvement in [Anthony's] group has produced testimony how people can be made vulnerable to the psychological manipulations and spiritual abuse of a 'skilled spiritual leader.' The book also focuses on how to regain psychological and spiritual health after leaving this group and explains how others caught in similar circumstances can do the same. The workshop will cover how anyone can be vulnerable to join a cult. How the new community and the cult of personality change a person into a new identity will be explained."


Clark says the Duncans will be attending the presentations. But he's had no contact with Anthony or other members of the Trinity Foundation.

Clark, who lives in Pennsylvania, says he has been intrigued with Anthony since they met in 1994 at a conference called "Evangelical Ministries to New Religions." Clark had seen Anthony going undercover to bust televangelists on ABC's PrimeTime Live with Diane Sawyer. Since he had worked for months with Sawyer for an expose on cults, Clark wanted to know more about Anthony. "I thought the guy was eccentric," Clark says. "Ole Anthony is an articulate person, but there's an off-beat quality about him."


He was taken aback because Anthony refused, unlike other EMNR conference participants, to allow his workshop describing the Trinity Foundation's structure and mission to be recorded. "I was struck with that," Clark says, "What is his problem here? What struck me then was his us-versus-them mentality of him about the mainstream church."


Last year Clark met Doug Duncan, whose story is chronicled in his wife's book, at a cult conference in Denver. Clark found the Duncans' involvement in the Trinity Foundation similar to his own experience in a cult called Church of the Living Word in the early 1970s. Since then, Clark has spent his life studying cult dynamics. He was a founding member of the Former Cultists Support Network.


"When I met Doug, I was impressed with him personally," Clark says. "I thought he was level-headed. His story had the ring of truth to me. The factual foundation of the book is extensive and supported by former members and eyewitness testimony. It was eerie because of my own experience. I'm used to listening to a lot of first-hand stories of eyewitness accounts. I deal with so many groups that are like this."


Clark decided to do a workshop on Trinity this month because the group has an internationally high profile but few insiders have ever described their own experiences inside the group. What the outsider sees is very different than what the insiders see.


"The way the organization is set up concerns me," says Clark, "this role Anthony has of opening up the mysteries of the kingdom of God. He's known for quoting Scripture. He dazzles people with a tap dance about the Bible. He's like a psychological pit bull."


Wendy Duncan's seven-year involvement with the Trinity Foundation ended after Anthony repeatedly refused to consecrate their marriage. "Anthony said he didn't give a 'rat's ass' about their marriage," says Clark. "That says a lot about what he's like."


Clark praises Anthony for raising issues of homelessness and simple living. "A lot of the stuff he points out publicly is very noble and noteworthy," Clark says. "I find Trinity very resourceful. I think in the anti-cult community he's known for all those resources he makes available. But he points out that many other leaders of cult-like groups are known to be humanitarian. One example: Jim Jones, who led his followers in a mass suicide. "Very powerful people were associated with Jones and he was known for his social work with the poor," says Clark.


Duncan, naturally, is pleased that her book will be getting attention at the two conferences.


"When I set out to write the book, I had no intention of starting a war with Ole Anthony or his group," Wendy Duncan e-mails. "I only wanted to write about my experience in order to provide an alternative perspective on the Trinity Foundation other than the one which has been publicized in the media. Additionally, I wanted to write something that would help others recover from a cultic or spiritually abusive experience. I hoped that by sharing my story former members of Trinity Foundation and other similar groups would begin to heal from their experience.


"The one thing that puzzles me, though, is The Dallas Morning News' continued silence over this cult controversy. The fact that someone has described the Dallas-based Trinity Foundation as a cult is newsworthy enough that it has been written about in the Dallas Observer and a national magazine [Charisma], yet the local paper of record has not taken note of it. My husband, Doug, says that they know they are complicit in building up Ole's celebrity, and they do not want to print anything that could put themselves in a bad light."


She doesn't point out that several members of the foundation work at Dallas' Only Daily.


"As I began writing the book," Wendy writes, "I assumed that everything Ole told us about himself and his background was true. It never occurred to me that a man who preached rigorous honesty and demanded accountability from the televangelists would not hold himself to the same standard. However, in the course of writing the book my research turned up some discrepancies between what Ole says about himself and what could actually be verified...


"In my opinion, Ole Anthony is running a religious cult, although he has presented himself as one of the guardians of Christianity against the excesses of the televangelists. However, there are serious issues that call his motives and credibility into question. I think it is this lack of veracity that is gaining notice for my book in certain circles-especially the various apologetics and anti-cult groups." —-Glenna Whitley


16 Comments:

J.T. says:

One major point that needs to be emphasized is that the Duncans are only two of many members of Ole's group who have left feeling abused and disillusioned. Wendy is just the only one who wrote a book. (Some of the others' experiences were highlighted in the book, but under assumed names.) Most victims of cult abuse don't speak out because they have been traumatized and feel vulnerable, so the lack of a public chorus of "happened to me too" does not mean that Doug and Wendy are just lone rangers in their assessment of this group. Trinity's statement that they will not comment to the press in the interest of reconciliation is rather ludicrous since they have already defended themselves -- first by suggesting that this thing between Ole and the Duncans is merely "personal". Ole's sidekicks have also not remained silent behind the scenes or piously left the Duncans alone as prodigals they hope will come home. Doug and Wendy have had to entertain spiritually twisted backlash of the same mind-bending quality that flavors all of Ole's so-called ministry. Without fanfare, Doug and Wendy have privately tried to help those who were hurt by Trinity. They are quite unassuming and their motives are merely for the pain to stop. The fact that the book has now taken wings as a document for international discussion by cult watch experts is a side item that the Duncans never expected. They have shied away from personal notoriety in deference to the message, which I think speaks volumes about their character, if not their honesty. In contrast to the arrogance of Ole Anthony, it is refreshing. They have bravely risen above a nightmare and instead of just nursing their own wounds, and have taken the emotional risk to help others. That's God's grace at work, folks.

buck says:

If Dallas News staffers are part of Trinity Foundation, they should either disclose that to readers or withdraw from any news decisions involving this story.

what is glenna's association with this book?

why is she so bummed that robert tilton is not the super hero she thought he was.

just more right wight evangelical bullshit that spews out via the ultra right wing publication
the dallas fucking observer.

i remember this smear campaign from before because the lady swifboater made an insinuation that someone's daughter would "never dance again" because of the parents affiliation with ole anthorny.

i love it that it couldn't be bothered to respond to such junior high tabloid journalism.


glenna is so close to god that he validates her parking.

jack jett

jack e vet says:

jack e jett,
You sound like a spurned lover? what's up with that?
jv

Brian J. Birmingham says:

Ole is a Diotrephes (3 John) and is the titular head of a modern-day Gnostic Mystery Religion. He's, like ,the Hannibal Lecter of the world of Christian ministry. Me, I was there five months and left after reading Wendy's book and the Observer piece. I read both while still in the association of the Foundation and was quite shaken up the new information I found. Actually, after I let it be known that I met the Duncans and started asking too many questions, Ole squeezed me out of there with BS excuses. I oughtta thank him. I count myself highly blessed to have gotten out of there with my faith and personal autonomy intact. Every day that Ole Anthony is alive and walking around is another day that I know that the Devil is real. That place is, at its core, evil.

spurning spurning spurning.

don't know ole anthony

any religious nut calling ole anthony a cult
is part of the pot kettle black syncrome.

as far as the book goes....nobody outside of a small jesus freak circle give a shit about glenna and her gal pal thoughts on ole anthony.

non entitys writing about non entitys
is
spurning spurning spurning.


karma is my lover
she never spurns

jack jett

Jeffrey Weiss says:

From the DMN in January of 1989:

Anthony is the reason the Trinity Foundation exists. And there are times when even to its members the foundation looks uncomfortably like a cult of personality.

Like some cults, it is a small group that is led by a charismatic leader who claims to have the only absolute, complete religious truth in the world. The core of Anthony's doctrine is that one's personal desires and ego are an illusion, blocking the emergence of Christ incarnate in every person. Only by "abandoning yourself completely to God' can one join and in some sense become Christ, Anthony says.

"This (his group) is the only place that I'm aware of on the face of the Earth that it's told to you that it's finished. Well, how come nobody else teaches this? I don't know and I don't care. Where'd you learn this? From God!" Anthony says on one tape of his teachings.

First and foremost, let me take a stand for the veracity, validity, and humbleness of Doug and Wendy. Since meeting and talking with them through a series of circumstances that only could have been orchestrated by God, I see them as simply real people trying to get to the truth. I sponsor a support group for those that have been damaged by abuse, mainly the abuse received at the hand of a spiritual authority. Indeed much of my ministry has been in helping people, usually one at a time, to recover their spiritual balance and connection with a loving God.

I have never personally met Ole Anthony and have no need or desire to do so. My job is helping folks pick up the pieces and go forward. Wendy and Doug are doing just that. I applaud them for every step they take, no matter how painful or difficult in re-establishing a spiritual foundation and then turning to help others along the way.

are wendy and doug donating all the money to some charity...or their childs dances lessons that they seem so upset over.

just like glenna going on nancy grace, they are media mongers. they want to make a buck.

again, i don't know ole anthony, but why would anyone worry about his cult when they are creating another one

check out the "children of god" at worldofwonder.net

cults come in all shapes and sizes.

what is it the doug an wendy want. to treat ole anthony like another david koresh.
why not just leave him alone?
oh thats right, we need to put out a book out.

isn't this the time you pentecostals should be putting out anti democratic books.

like clinton is satan
obama is a crook
gays caused the tornado in florida


jack jett

Nathan Armstrong says:

I doubt that Doug and Wendy are doing this because they are trying to make money off a book. It is quite expensive to publish a book yourself. I won't even judge their intentions in this. I find though, there are some deeper personal politics between the Duncan's and TFI. It is questionable if their assessment of Trinity is entirely objective. Doug has called Anthony a narcissist and a sociopath. Both are labels that are extreme in describing a man who preaches living a life of self-sacrifice.

From what I understand after talking to some of TFI's members, Glenna used very little of the information from her interviews taken last fall. Seems like she was determined to take the Duncan's view without weighing both sides equally.

After listening to people on both sides of this topic, I am inclinded to believe there were some private issues in Wendy's book that should have been kept that way. At least until the Duncan's had fully confronted TFI with their concerns. I am not saying everything Wendy says is wrong, I just think they did not give TFI a fair chance to discuss those things before going public with it.

I also think Glenna's article is not as solid as some make it out to be. Some of the information she used in her articles was supplied by Ole himself. The idea he was being deceitful with his account at Merill Lynch for example is misleading. I doubt he would have given her that information if he had something to hide. Talking with some members of TFI I get the impression it was open knowledge that Ole had this account. This is only one example, but I think the journalism here was pretty one sided. There are other credible journalists who have spoken more favourably about Trinity Foundation.

The Duncan's may have some valuable things to say, again I think they need to sit down with TFI and talk with them before publicly crucifying them.

The original story that ran in the Dallas Observer stuck me as a non event. It sounded like some business associates that were in some sort of squabble. Even if it were true that Ole Anthony had/has a cult, then so what? It must be one small cult and the man is obviously not getting rich. Has anyone died? Were any children molested?

The Duncan's are lucky that they have Glenna and Dallas Observer to help promote the book, and who knows, it may be a best seller and be made into a movie starring Brad and Angelina. I mean, Ted Haggerd is now heterosexual, so stranger thinks have happened....or have they?

jack jett

Nathan Armstrong says:

Apparently, according to the Duncans, there are many ex-members who say Trinity is a cult. Does that mean they are? Questionable. I personally doubt TFI meets the criteria to be labelled a destructive cult. Is it possible they are a tight-knit group of people called a church that has really offended some people? I think so.

I agree that the Observer article lacked real solid meat to make give it real impact. I think we should find it troubling though if Anthony has not practiced what he preached. I am not willing to say that is true though.

jack e vet says:

jack e jett,

Are you sure you have never been involved with Trinity or Ole? After seeing your website... A bit of jealousy maybe? Just a little?
jv

Gary Cantu says:

First allow me to preface this by stating that I was and am currently a member of the Trinity Foundation.

In reading the article in the Dallas Observer on Ole and his "cult", I find it strangely humorous that this is coming from Doug Duncan. The man has always been less than forthcoming to begin with, so I have to take anything he says with a grain of salt. It seems as if he is willing to place the blame on anyone and anything except the place it really should be...on himself. He chose to stay and he has no one to blame but himself. They both chose to stay, and he and his wife are making themselves out to be victims here...GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!

If things were so bad, as they say they were, why didn't they leave? Why did they continue to subject themselves to this? I don't want to hear about this control shit because that is just a cop out from someone who didn't have the balls to stand up to Ole. I don't think anyone in their right mind would consciously allow themselves to be berated over and over again. I think most people would be gone if it happened once. They chose to stay, so they have only themselves to blame. Their argument holds no water.

This story reeks of two people unwilling to accept responsibility for their part of this story and who are still pissed because Ole wouldn't marry them. All I have to say to this is: GET OVER IT ALREADY AND STOP MAKING YOURSELVES OUT TO BE A VICTIM BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT!!!! C'mon Doug, be a man for once...

I have never had any problems with Mr. Anthony. He and I have always been straight with each other. I will admit that I don't always agree with he says, but I always respect what he has to say. The Foundation helped me when I needed it the most and I am eternally grateful for their assistance. If that makes me part of a cult, then so be it, but I don't consider myself brainwashed or controlled as this article makes out those who belong to this foundation seem.

Gary Cantu
p.s. I read your book Wendy and it still doesn't wash.

Hmmm...
Just saw this, and I have to say that I am somewhat surprised by the vitriol and the ad hominem nature of it. Gary asks why, if things were so bad at Trinity, didn't we leave? Well, I don't know if he has noticed, but WE DID LEAVE!!
I am not sure what Gary has against me personally, but he is welcome to call or email me to discuss it.
As to Wendy's book "not washing," that does not square with the feedback we have had from the dozens of former members who have read it, all of whom say that her story rings true. I guess I should not be surprised that someone still involved with Trinity would find all of this so threatening.

By the way, this is a pretty standard technique for cults to use to shut down dissent. If every time you point out a problem you are just "acting like a victim" then there is no way for there to be any self-correction within the group.

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