No Matter Where Texas and Oklahoma Wind Up, Texas-OU Will Survive in Dallas ... or Arlington

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After a meeting last weekend of school power brokers -- including UT president William Powers and OU grand poobah David Boren -- it's clear that Texas-OU Weekend will survive regardless of where the Longhorns and Sooners wind up in this chaotic restructuring of conferences.

According to a source familiar with the talks, even if OU, as expected, bolts the Big 12 for the Pac 12 and Texas stays behind -- or goes Independent -- the Texas-OU game will still be played in the metroplex.

The Red River Rivalry game, played in Dallas since 1900, has a contract to stay in Dallas' Cotton Bowl through 2015. After that ...

The schools will seriously consider relocating the series to either a home-and-home schedule with games alternately played in Austin and Norman, or moving west to Cowboys Stadium in Arlington.

The good news: Texas-OU will continue playing.

The bad news: Probably only in Dallas for another five years.


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 * Tranquility Farms, located in southeastern Oklahoma, is a hunters' paradise with plenty of deer, turkey, and other wildlife. It provides a great place for building houses with beautiful rolling terrain views.

Lilred
Lilred

What does the asterick next to the seat number of the OU/TX ticket mean?

Richie's Need to be Repetitive
Richie's Need to be Repetitive

Richie, you spout this crap almost on a yearly basis. The game is not leaving Dallas after the contract is over. Both Athletic Directors have said the game makes more money for both schools at the Cotton Bowl. One price for all the seats which right now is $125, the price of a bowl game. 

From 2009 by real reporters at the Dallas Morning News:

It's tempting to think that Texas and Oklahoma could make more money from their annual football game if it moved to Arlington's Cowboys Stadium, with its high-priced luxury seating, or alternated between Austin and Norman.

Not so, say the schools' athletic directors.

From a strictly revenue point of view, "it's pretty simple," said DeLoss Dodds at Texas. "We can make the most money at the Cotton Bowl."

"He's right," agreed Oklahoma's Joe Castiglione.

Texas and OU expect to split evenly about $10 million from today's game at the renovated Cotton Bowl stadium in Fair Park. Most of that comes from ticket sales, the rest from the city of Dallas, which contributes $850,000, and corporate sponsorships.

As for maximizing revenue, though, "it's just math," Dodds said.He estimated that tickets would have to be priced at $130 each in Arlington to equal the revenue generated at the Cotton Bowl this year, where tickets are $95 each. A game ticket also brings admission to the State Fair.

Just because JerryWorld is getting other games doesn't mean Texas and OU want to go there. The game is too important to the Fair and the City of Dallas. Dallas now pays each team 1 million dollars to play the game. Then they split the gate. You honestly think a forward thinking Mayor is going to let this game slip away. Jerry can want it all he wants. Unless he's willing to guarantee the schools a split of 15 million or more then the game goes nowhere. 

Texas and OU season ticket holders pay a premium on top of their season ticket package to the respective alumni groups to get access to Texas OU tickets. If the game goes to JerryWorld, those people can stop their donations and spent the money on scalped tickets. The Longhorns Foundation is not going to want to lose money if the game moves. Unless I'm mistaken, any Personal Seat License holder gets first crack at the their seats or suites for any non-Cowboy event. 

You say this crap every year. I can't wait till Texas OU sign an extension to keep the game in the Cotton Bowl past 2015.

Nasty
Nasty

Tone's taint, Scotts Merkin

Could you rewrite your posts below in English and post them again? 

You were spouting something about Utah but I'm not sure how it relates to OU and Texas being the only top tier football teams in the Big 2 and little 10.

P.S. You have a little piece of crap on your shirt from all that talking out your rectum.

Nasty
Nasty

Trivia Question for Lumbergh, Plano Dave, ScottsMerkin and other high intellect individuals:

How many NCAA football national championships have OU and Texas won combined as members of the Big 2 and little 10?

Answer: Zero. The NCAA doesn't award national championships to third party beauty contests like the BCS. You have to have a post season tournament to be an NCAA sanctioned national champion. 

Here is another more hypothetical trivia question:

How many championships combined would OU and Texas have if they had participated in a post season tournament against the SEC, PAC 10, etc.

Answer:Most likely Zero as well.

Nasty
Nasty

Lumbergh,

Why are you spouting the nonsense that the Big 2 and little 10 is not a cake walk to the BCS for  OU and TEX? 

Below are my facts.  Where are yours?  Maybe if you didn't say such ignorant crap in your posts people wouldn't make fun of you so much.

Wednesday, January 3, 2001 - FedEx Orange Bowl  OUWednesday, January 1, 2003 - Rose Bowl Game presented by PlayStation 2: OUSunday, January 4, 2004 - Nokia Sugar Bowl (National Championship) OUTuesday, January 4, 2005 - FedEx Orange Bowl (National Championship) OUWednesday, January 4, 2006 - Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi TEXMonday, January 1, 2007 - Tostitos Fiesta Bowl OUWednesday, January 2, 2008 - Tostitos Fiesta Bowl OUMonday, January 5, 2009 - Tostitos Fiesta Bowl TEXThursday, January 7, 2010 - Citi BCS National Championship TEXSaturday, January 1, 2011 - Tostitos Fiesta Bowl (Glendale, Ariz.) OU

Scott Vann
Scott Vann

All compliments of Laura Miller who couldn't see her way clear to land the Dallas Cowboys in Dallas where they should have been. 

DuckDuckGoose
DuckDuckGoose

"UT president William Powers and OU grand poobah David Boren"

Hey RW, David Boren is the president of OU, not the grand poobah.  If you insist on name calling, then call 'em both poobahs, or call Powers a nabob, kahuna, or something along those lines.

ParleyPPratt
ParleyPPratt

Your "bad" news is really good news.  And "Arlilngton"?

Nasty
Nasty

The Texas OU game was the beauty contest that decided which big 12 team played in the BCS. It will never be the same if they both play a semi-respectable schedule.

We are about to see how well thrashing Iowa State and Baylor every year has prepared them for the real world.

Storm_71
Storm_71

"A source familiar with the talks" huh. Well I'm "familiar" with the talks can I be a source too RW????

Sturms_Bloody_Rectum
Sturms_Bloody_Rectum

Will Commish Beebe be selling hot dogs in the Texas or OU section after the Big12 implodes?

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

It'd be nice to keep one big game here where I don't have to see Jerry's stretched face constantly cut to during coverage.

Kergo 1 Spaceship
Kergo 1 Spaceship

Spell check?  It is really easy to use! Especially for (so called) professional journalists Welp, I'm off to Slan Anmonio; then it's off to Aurstin, where I'll visit Hittie Hollot.

Retard much?

bob
bob

did this ever receive an answer ?

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

Funny now you cant read, Good ole Alabama edumacation I see.  It seems to me that as an alabama fan you would know exactly what Tone's Taint meant when he said Utah....hint hint Sugar Bowl....hint hint You lost

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

so who is your team fuckface!  State your allegience if you want to come run your fucking mouth tool.  And according to the NCAA, you dont have to have a tournament to have a national championship, the NCAA sold out to the man (BCS) and they are considered the NCAA national Champs, go look at the trophy down there in Austin

Josh's broken records
Josh's broken records

Hadn't seen the RaGe's lead dog in that light. Good Job! I did hear his commercial for the hair plugs today (while I was in the carwarsh, #opulence,andneededfromlivingonadirtfarm) sounds like stuff is working better than the expose showed. Wait, waaait, Pow!!!Pow!!

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

hey nasty, its fun leave out stats that dont back your story but here are a few more for you to chew on since you think its a cake walk.

99 A&M sugar bowl00 Nebraska Fiesta02 Colorado Fiesta02 Nebraska R.B04 K-state F.B08 Kansas Orange

Multiple years there have been 2 big 12 teams in the BCS, and ask Texas how much of a cakewalk the Big 12 was last year.  or ask them how big of a cakewalk it was when Tech knocked em out of the national championship

Mishon
Mishon

The Midget loves using the term "grand poobah". I have probably heard it used 10 times in my life, 9 being from him.

Mishon
Mishon

I first noticed that at the Super Bowl last year and noticed it again during the LSU/Oregon game. Why does the turf look like shit? A billion dollar stajum and they can't get turf that doesn't look warped.

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

UT plays BYU and UCLA in non-conference. OU plays FSU.  Both teams are conscious of losing standing to SEC teams based on "strength of schedule", so both teams have beefed up their schedules in the past few years.

Plus, 5 Big 12 teams are currently Top 25 ranked.

It's a nice "talking point" to toss out about "weak schedules" though, but it works better to actually look at a schedule occasionally.

Bill Lumbergh
Bill Lumbergh

Why do people keep spouting this nonsense? Maybe twice in the last decade has that game determined who went to the BCS to represent the Big 12.

Nasty
Nasty

ScottsMerkin,

"...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I haveever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were youeven close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I awardyou no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."-Appropriate Billy Madison quote.

I am an Alabama fan and we dream of playing bowls against teams in the Big 2 and little 10.

I have seen the Trophy in Austin and it says BCS on it because it was handed out by a third party, not the NCAA.

I would love to engage you more but I don't want to dumb down what I know about the NCAA to accommodate crap you think you know.

Nasty
Nasty

ScottsMerkin,

"its fun leave out stats that dont back your story".  I guess so because that's what you did. 

OU and Texas go to BCS Bowls as a member of the Big 12 that they will never see as an independent or PAC 12 member.  That's the fact and mentioning the also rans in all those years doesn't change that fact.

Your Tech example even underscores this more clearly.  The only thing Tech can ever hope to do as a Big 12 member is knock somebody out of the championship; not put themselves in it.

Feel free to post the results of the Poulan Weedeater bowl in your next response as evidence of the overwhelming parity in the Big 12.

Russell
Russell

That 08 Kansas team was a fraud. They didn't have to play Texas or Oklahoma that year. Just saying...

TheRealDirtyP1
TheRealDirtyP1

You miss Todd Reesing, admit it. If he was listed, youd have him on your fantasy team.

#1 FAN FAN
#1 FAN FAN

Why does the turf look like shit?

To match the team.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

ahh arent you soooo cute with your big 2 little 10 comments.  Apparently your alabama education didnt do you very much good, considering there are only 10 teams in the big 12 now.  Iook go back to your cute little SEC board and bust balls over there.  We really dont give a shit about yall in this part of the country

Tone's taint
Tone's taint

How's utah looking motherfucker. Go get back in your stars n bars tagged trcuk, run some moonshine drag someone behind ur truck and shove your cheatin alabama football team up your ass

Rooster
Rooster

You fall for it every time.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

also rans dont make BCS bowls sir.  And I didnt leave them out, you had already made that point, why should I repeat it.  You wanted to ignore the fact that the big 12 consistantly put 2 teams in the BCS.  The Pac 12 is down and they both would have great shots at going to a BCS game from that conference, they just might not do it as a 0 or 1 loss team..   I hate those 2 schools a ton, but I wont take away the fact that they are top notch teams and they dont cakewalk through the season.  Ask OU about TCU in norman a few years back or BYU at jerrah world.  In fact I would say the pac 12 was the conference with 2 teams and a bunch of also rans.  Id take the top half of the big 12 any day,

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

and that wasnt their fault.  That was how UT wanted the schedule set up.  They wanted unbalanced schedule so they would have to play the likes of Nebraska every year.  KU played the schedule given and did what they had to do, and yeah, that Orange Bowl trophy looks real nice  in the trophy case next to those CBB national championship trophies. And I do beleive my t shirt and hat still say orange bowl champs on it too, and their is no asterick for schedule on either one as well.   

Russell
Russell

They had an incredibly easy schedule to get to the Orange Bowl, and even lost to Mizzou in their last game. And then they beat a very weak ACC team in Va Tech. Yes, they did win the Orange Bowl, but it just was not that impressive. Mizzou should have gone over Kansas anyway.

Best thing about Kansas that year was the t-shirts their fans wore that said " Our coach can eat your coach." Hillarious.

Gary
Gary

They won the Orange Bowl, which removes the fraud tag.  Just saying the truth.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

Oh I miss reesing, and meier and talib and derek fine, and mangino making each pair of sunglasses look like a monocal

gofuhcureself
gofuhcureself

Yeah. You read my name. Now apply accordingly.

RJ Sloppy
RJ Sloppy

how about you go fuck yourself. see what I did there?

gofuhcureself
gofuhcureself

Hey RJ - suicide is the answer. Pull that trigger. Please.

RJ Sloppy
RJ Sloppy

I wish you and JSIB would just die already. Fucking douchebags.

Josh's broken records
Josh's broken records

Actually, Jay has a ranch just up the road from me, out in God's Country USA (South W-town) (but I did see what you did there)

Mishon
Mishon

I know him. Isn't he friends with John MacLeod?

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