Blackface vs. Whiteface: Dallas' Double-Standard?
But what about ...
An NBA player (from The Colony, no less) with white paint on his black face?
But what about ...
An NBA player (from The Colony, no less) with white paint on his black face?
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i still want to know who the fuck it is that's offended by this.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 2:02PMOn Halloween I had some African-American young men come to my house in white face. The thought did cross my mind that there would have been a cry of racisim is the situation had been reversed. I can't understand being offended either way.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 2:28PM"i still want to know who the fuck it is that's offended by this. "
If you read the comments on the below article, you'll see a few offended folks. I personally think it's retarded. There's a difference between mocking African Americans as a race, and dressing up as a rapper for halloween. I think it's a non-issue in this situation.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/02/crimesider/entry5494649.shtml
I think the new generation, mainly college age and younger, are widely not concerned with racism.
The main people keeping racism alive are the ones complaining.
If the complainers would shut up, the new generation could create the desired equality organically.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 2:52PMAs a white dude with many black friends, it is simple, actually.
White people were never enslaved and oppressed by blacks for their skin color. When your entire ethnic group is treated the way black people have been in this country, you tend to be a lot more sensitive to these things.
Brad E., you're horribly wrong on that point, sadly.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 3:11PMI just feel like it is dicipating with each passing generation, and those who are acting as watchdogs are only hurting the situation.
If new generations of black people are going to continue to be sensitive about their ancestory, and new generations of white people continue to condone racism, then nothing will ever completely change.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 3:59PMBrad E, I couldn't agree more. I might not have as many black friends as ol WishHater there, but being a man of color myself, I'd have to say he is one of the people keeping this kind of old, tired politically correct crap alive. When folks stop getting all uptight about this stuff, the "horror" of it will go away. Oh, and all of my college age buddies, male and female, black and other? The issue to them is folks like WishHater trying to make this into more than it is. Just let it go man. There is nothing to be offended about here except your little white guilt syndrome and that's what's REALLY offensive. Move forward, don't be stuck in the mire of the past.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 4:04PMHow come it is always white people saying what is offensive for other races. How about we shut the fuck up and if some else is offended let them bitch. We have turned into such babies in this country. There was a story yesterday about an apartment complex telling tenants to take down their American flags or be evicted cuz some 1 might be offended by it, they also said no American flag stickers on cars either.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 4:23PMHey Guy:
When The Dallas Morning News runs a picture of the president as a monkey on its editorial page, like it did on Wednesday November 3, who can fault anyone for seeing prejudice anywhere? The Morning News should be ashamed to go that route after what happened with the New York paper, but it is not.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 5:44PMTotally agree wit ya BradE.
And WashHater... slavery happened ages and ages and ages ago... are you still pissed off at people who live in the UK for 'no taxation w/o representation'?
As Ian McKay of Minor Threat/Fugazi put it in his song "Guilty of Being White"
"I'm sorry for something I didn't do. Sure it was somebody, but I don't know who.
You blame me, for slavery. 100 years before I was born."
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 5:53PMWoah woah woah boys. Shooting the messenger here.
I didn't say I agree with the viewpoint that I posted here. I'm just sharing what I have heard over the years. I've gotten into heated arguments with my friends about it, espousing the very ideas you guys all share here. Some people simply do not see race relations the same way you do, that's all I was aiming to share with this crowd.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 6:12PMHeard a discussion of this on BaD radio today. There are some mitigating circumstances with her portraying an actual individual rather than a stereotype. If she had done like the kids at Tarleton and gone as Aunt Jemima to an MLK party, that is highly insensitive, but the portrayal of lil Wayne is another case. Would she have been offensive if she had the same costume sans blackface? Does this mean that blackface by ANY white person is going to be offensive to some portions of the population?
Carlos Mencia can get away with saying things that I can't as a forty-something white guy. Rappers can get away with lyrics that would get Toby Keith in trouble. That's how it is. There will always be some portion of the population that is gonna be offended. Did she mean to be offensive? I doubt it. Is there a double standard? Yep, very definitely. Is it likely to change anytime soon? Nope. Stop dreaming and wake-up this is not a post-racial world. Even if we did just elect a black man to be President. There might be some young kids that don't see things the same way their parents or grandparents did, but there are still plenty of haters out there and plenty of sensitive feelings. Visceral responses to slights real and imagined are not usually logical. I hope the girl doesn't lose her job over it, but I foresee sensitivity seminars in her future.
@Brad, it's dissipating. no dig at you, just sayin.
Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 8:12PMI'm offended by:
People who can't say five words without swearing, please apologize.
People who have lost their sense of humor, please apologize.
People in elected office, when they speak, please apologize.
People who have no life (like the jerk in LA vs Gooden), please apologize
People who pop up as "spokepeople" for the African American population, (you know who I mean), please apologize.
People who look for the hidden meaning in everything that happens, please apologize.
People who have taken prayer out of every facet of a child's life and then wonder why we have a godless society, please apologize.
People (likely the same as above) who took sex education out of the schools and wonder why children keep having babies, please apologize.
People who have no life and spend all day writing on blogs, please apologize.
OK, OK I'm sorry.
If I was an African American I would probably be a little offended. Her costume does perpetuate a negative stereotype. But her makeup wasn't "black face" in the truest since so I would grant that she wasn't trying to be malicious, but misguidedly creative. On Halloween I saw a douche-bag in true "black face" as Michael Vick with a torn up stuffed dog with fake blood, and I think that was truly offensive. It's a fine line. For people to judge what offends others strikes me as an exercise in futility. We all have our own histories and experiences that make us process images/events in different emotional ways. The bottom line is this: She's a Smoking Hot Cowboy Cheerleader and that would have made a fine costume.
But why would she go there at all? What makes a person think, "Oh, I'll be black man about to go to jail." I get the feeling that if she was dressed as Sarah Palin wearing a dunce hat, or looking mentally disabled, more of you would be offended by that. And Jerry probably would have already fired her for pissing-off most of his suite owners and more than half of the fan base.
Posted On: Thursday, Nov. 5 2009 @ 2:27AMHow does portaying a rapster perpetuate a negative stereotype when that's the way he acts in real life? Rapsters are all stereotypical caricatures who walk around with as much gold as they can possibly carry trying to draw as much attention to themselves as possible but when someone imitates them suddenly it's stereotyping and offensive? I don't think so. It's called reaping what you sow.
Now if I have offended anyone just let me know and I will go into rehab and all will be forgiven.
Posted On: Thursday, Nov. 5 2009 @ 6:50AMI noticed the vampire is also in whiteface, and I'm offended.
Posted On: Thursday, Nov. 5 2009 @ 8:27AMUmm, can someone please explain the term 'blackface' for me? Because I've been thinking it was that black greasepaint with white around the eyes and lips thing that Al Jolsen and other white actors did decades before all of us were born. I just wonder if anyone has asked Lil Wayne what he thinks of this whole blown-out-of-proportion news bit.
Oh, and let's face it. I'm actually more peach-colored, like most white people. So a black dude with chalk-white makeup on his face isn't offensive. Deron just looks like an albino, which is as hilarious as he intended.
Posted On: Thursday, Nov. 5 2009 @ 9:31AMRichie,
why can't she just say she has a drinking problem and that she's going into rehab and is putting everything in God's hands.
If I was here, I would see what I could do to get my face on one of those IAmSecond billboards.
Okay everyone... public service announcement:
You are allowed to be ANYTHING you want for Halloween, except a black person... unless, of course, you're already black.
Thank you and good day.
If that sounded stupid, it should. Because that essentially sums up this entire situation. It's hard to get on with your life if you can't get over what happened in the past.
Brad E-
It's this sort of line that is the problem.
"to be sensitive about their ancestory,"
It's not "their" ancestry that "they" are sensitive about. They are proud of their ancestry; it's the insensitivity of a majority class system about the continual support of those who do not take our horrible history as a country into consideration.
The history of black face is particularly derisive. Blacks were so hated they were not allowed to play themselves and white actors used black face as a means to exaggerate gross stereotypes and abusive situations. Whites in black face often acted like animals and much worse.
If it "you are allowed to be anything you want for Halloween” why not pick something that is a bit more mature and well thought out?






