Danny Brown Was Not the Victim of His On-Stage Blowjob, Despite Contrary Reports

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This is a complicated story to tell. Misogyny, misandry, rape, consent, slut shaming and victim blaming are not exactly pleasant topics of discussion, but this week they were all brought to the forefront of #raptwitter. Danny Brown's Old & Reckless Tour is well underway. The Detroit rapper's first headlining national outing has been doing well so far, and he and opening act/protege Kitty have been critically well-received. Last Friday, however, when the two hit Minneapolis, Minnesota, things got incredibly uncomfortable. During his set, a young female audience member at the front of the stage allegedly grabbed at Brown's penis and flashed her breasts. Then, this young female audience member allegedly proceeded to remove said penis from Brown's pants and perform oral sex on him. In the since-deleted Twitter exchange above with Kendrick Lamar, Brown gives his only direct comment on the situation so far. Kitty, however, wrote an in-depth op-ed on VICE Magazine's NOISEY blog earlier this week.

I've met Danny Brown a couple times. The first was at this past South By Southwest in Austin. It was his birthday, and I was sharing my one hitter with him backstage at a Fools Gold show. It was my last night in town and I was proactively chasing quotes. He seemed somewhat reluctant to be in a crowd. I asked him what was the craziest thing he'd seen this year at the fest.

"I dunno, two girls eating each other out?" he said, shrugging

I was kind of surprised. Not because he had been so sexually graphic (which by now I'm well desensitized to in rap culture), but because that was really so crazy to him. Like a lot of his fans, I associated Danny Brown the person with Danny Brown the lyrics until that night. A lot of the content on his debut album, XXX, is straightforward sexual prowess braggadocio, particularly the records that have had the farthest reach. I've seen the kind of backstage environments that Brown and his peers often inhabit, and I have seen groupie thirst in some pretty wild forms. I was surprised because I had a hard time imagining such a self-proclaimed pussy hound would find a road show threesome so crazy. I remember thinking to myself, "Is that not just like, a Tuesday for you?" What I actually said was more like "Really? Is that so crazy?" He looked up at me, shocked at my indifference.

"Well it's pretty crazy to me! I don't know about you, but I definitely don't see that shit every day!" he replied, as if I must have been out of my mind.

I'm telling you this because this is how I know that Danny Brown is not some kind of Caligula-esque exhibitionist sexual deviant who would be comfortable with performing any kind of sexual act on stage at one of his shows. In meeting and talking with him since then, I've come to know him as a very introverted individual, who much prefers listening to records home alone over the wild parties he describes in his lyrics. I don't believe this was a planned publicity stunt, nor do I think Brown would have ever imagined being in this situation until it happened to him. That being said, his response to Kendrick was in poor taste and all-around misogynistic. Obviously, hindsight is 20/20 and that's why tweets are deleted. But it goes without saying that this controversial half-blowjob will not be swept under the rug just as easily.

I've seen some pretty graphic things at hip-hop shows over the years. One time, I saw a woman lactate all over a table of A.Dd+ merch in a completely unsolicited attempt to impress Slim & Paris. But never have I ever seen a rap show turn into a backroom at a seedy strip club before my eyes. Nobody wants to see that. And in this case, both Danny and the groupie in question are to blame.

My Thoughts on This Whole Danny Brown Oral Sex Thing is a great read, and a strong argument. Kitty's editorial voice may even be stronger than her voice as an emcee. She refers to Brown very endearingly in it, and as her "best friend." She makes the case that he is a victim of rape, a fact she claims is being ignored by the media because he is a black man, and his alleged attacker is a white woman. Kitty even compares Brown to Tom Robinson and herself to Scout Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird, in an extreme and tacky reach to spin this "thing," as she refers to it.

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xiola
xiola

If Danny was a woman would you have a different response? Excuses like "he let it happen" and "it was just a flirtation gone too far" are the excuses used to victim-blame female victims of sexual assault all the time. Why, because he's a man, do you feel differently? Congratulations for upholding the so-called "rape culture".


embreedesirae
embreedesirae

What I find problematic about about the internet's responses to incidents like these is how entitled people feel to assign blame when they weren't present or even involved. How could anyone say unequivocally what happened if they didn't see it and if they haven't spoken with the only person who is qualified to determine whether consent was given? You are more than entitled to your response to Kitty's op ed piece or to the conversation that's been generated by this incident, but you're not entitled to determine via your internet sleuthing and vast experience in the rap scene whether in this particular incident Danny Brown was victimized or not unless you were present, witnessed it, or talked to the parties involved. That's really the issue here.

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

so was jim morrison, and others i could name.

beckw
beckw

Putting aside Kitty's op-ed (which is really a separate subject), isn't sexual assault defined as unsolicited, non-consensual sexual contact?  Doesn't this fit that definition to some degree?  Danny's inaction does not mean consent.  I've always been taught that even if a victim doesn't forcefully push away and yell "NO', that doesn't mean that a crime did not occur.  

Furthermore, Danny's tweet after may have been in poor taste, that does not change the circumstances/criminality that occured on stage.  It doesn't make it consensual.  It doesn't make it ok.  And it doesn't make him not a victim.  

If a hypothetical rape victim said "it was no big deal" afterwards, does that mean that a crime occured?

ChrisYu
ChrisYu topcommenter

I don't think Hank done it this way.

pronailprincesa
pronailprincesa

@beckwI absolutely do not advocate victim blaming. And I understand that there are situations where consent is not granted, even though the victim shows no resistance as a result of mental abuse/manipulation or fear for one's own life. After examining the situation from many perspectives, watching the video, and seeing the picture- I'm not buying that this was one of those situations. I believe this was a consensual flirtation that quickly escalated to an act of public lewdness, rather than a sexual assault. I think both parties involved are guilty of letting things go too far.

beckw
beckw

@pronailprincesa @beckwI understand your point.  I was not accusing you of such.  The secret to victim blaming is remove the label of "victim" from them, and then wala!, you can blame them all you want, because they were not a victim in the incident. 


Unfortunately, this is going to remain a grey area as there are many facts missing such as:  Do they have a previously established relationship?  Are either of them on any substances that may inpair their ability to give consent (or not give consent)?  I'm sure a lawyer would argue that he is engaged in his primary form of making an income and would therefore be fearful of potential lost income due to any sort of disruption.  I know it's absurd, but that's how lawyers work. 
It is weird that people are so protective of her identity as if she was a completely innocent bystander.  It's like trying to protect the identity of a streaker at a baseball game and assuming the person doesn't want any attention or publicity regarding the incident.

pronailprincesa
pronailprincesa

@beckw  My personal reasoning for not publishing her name is two-fold. First of all, I'm not 100% sure that the sources implicating this woman are reliable. Second of all, It's my responsibility to think very long and hard about the possible effects of anything I write. God forbid, if this woman were to end up committing suicide over the fallout from being exposed- I don't know how I could live with myself. It's a worst case scenario, I know, but not uncommon enough in situations involving public shame & cyber bulling.


I really appreciate you reading this post, and taking the time out from your day to discuss it intelligently. This may be one of the most satisfying blog comment exchanges I've had.

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