A Year Later, Family Says a 22-Year-Old Died After 2010 Electric Daisy Carnival in Dallas

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Jesse Morales was 22 years old.
Four days after 19-year-old Argyle native Andrew Graf died after attending Electric Daisy Festival at Fair Park, another family is stepping forward to share the story of 22-year-old Jesse Morales, who they say died due to similar circumstances in the wake of 2010's inaugural event.

Family members say Morales, a native of Garden City, Kansas, and a student at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, was taken to Baylor University Medical Center after he was found unconscious and separated from his friends at last year's Electric Daisy Carnival in Dallas.

According to his family, Morales left his friends, overheated and in search of water. When his friends finally found him at the end of the night, he was unconscious. He was rushed to the hospital, initially checking in with a body temperature of 107 degrees. He never regained consciousness.

After three full days in emergency care, Morales was finally pronounced dead at 12:30 a.m. on Wednesday, June 23, 2010. Doctors said his death was the result of a drug overdose.

"We don't know what time he was passed out [at the festival]," says Yvonne Morales, Jesse's younger sister by 11 months. "We don't know how long he was laying there. My understanding from his friends, though, is that that's just how it is at these things--people get high and they just lay down and people just push them to the side. I don't know how you don't react to seeing someone on the floor like that, but I guess it happens. As if it's normal."

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Photo courtesy of Jesse Morales' family
Jesse Morales (far left, in orange bandana) attended the 2010 Electric Daisy Carnival in Dallas. He was pronounced dead three days after the festival.
According to both Morales' cousin and sister, the 2010 Electric Daisy Carnival in Dallas was the first time Jesse had ever attended such an event. Just a few months prior, after earning his Associate's degree from Garden City Community College, where he also played football, Morales had moved to Wichita Falls to pursue his Bachelor's degree. While there, his family noticed slight changes in his personality.

"We'd noticed a little bit of a change with him about three or four months before [the festival]," Hector says. "Just with some of the stuff that he was posting on Facebook. He was a straight-laced kid. He'd never been in trouble in his whole life, and I think that's important to make clear. He was a good kid."

His sister agrees.

"He was never into house music or raving," she says. "No drugs or anything. He would drink once in a while, of course, but he was in college. I still am to this day surprised and I ask myself why he would do something like that. The ecstasy he took, I guess it was lined with more than what should've been on the pill. That's why he passed away. It was an overdose."

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Photo courtesy of Jesse Morales' family
Morales (far left, in orange bandana) was found unconscious on the festival grounds and rushed to the nearby Baylor University Medical Center.
Family members reached out to police and paramedics to see what, if anything, could be done about Morales' death. They say police told the family there was nothing they could do. The family never contacted Electric Daisy Carnival promoters Insomniac Events.

"To the best of my own knowledge, Insomniac was never informed about this incident by the family of Jesse Morales or any authority in Dallas," confirms Erika Raney, spokesperson for Insomniac Events. "As such, we have no idea what is alleged to have occurred over a year ago. Until we know the facts, we have no reason to believe that it is related to the event."

The Morales family, however, is quite certain that Jesse's death and his attendance at the festival are indeed related -- even as they remain split on where to place the blame.

"I don't blame the festival itself," says Hector Morales. "He was 22 years old. He was able to make up his own mind as far as what he wanted to do. The thing that is disturbing is that there's all these young kids that are going to these raves and getting into situations that they're not prepared for with all this stuff around them. My feeling is that they're promoting a music festival, where, in fact, the underlying thing that's going on is that all these kids know that it's a place where they can get drugs and everything else."

Morales' sister is less sympathetic.

"You would think such a big event would be able to handle it better," she says. "Why would you just leave someone laying there? If it's so overcrowded, why have so many people? I mean, I know they want to make their money. I wish they would cancel it -- but how could they have known? They never knew about Jesse's story. And now that there's that 19-year-old and his family going through what we went through. I understand what they're going through. They have to live with it. And the dealers that sold them the drugs are scot-free. A year later, it still hurts. A year later, it's still unbearable. I just makes me really angry that everyone's having a good time at the festival and we have to deal with this. It's just hard."

"I just want the information out there," adds Hector. "If there's knowledge out there about what's going on at these 'festivals,' maybe a parent or somebody can step up and say, 'Hey, this isn't an appropriate place for you to be.' These things are happening."

Photo courtesy of Jesse Morales' family
Morales had attended the 2010 Electric Daisy Carnival in Dallas with a group of friends from Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, where he had just started taking classes a few months earlier.


Follow up on sister paper LA Weekly: Electric Daisy Carnival Sees Two More Possibly Ecstasy Related Deaths Connected to its Dallas Parties
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Guest
Guest

I agree with the comments here - So very sorry for your loss, but it's hard for you to argue that "raving is wrong" (whatever that means) when everyone basically admitted in the article that Jesse was getting into things none of you were familiar with, and like as if EDC and other electronic music festivals are the only place drugs are. People do drugs everywhere. People like the music played at these festivals. Some people are taking drugs, some aren't. It's a tragedy, a terrible accident what happened to Jesse, but ecstasy overdose deaths are still pretty rare and as a 22 year old adult, he made the decision to take drugs and unfortunately on this particular occasion, it had horrible results. 

Guest
Guest

how do you secretly drug your friend with ecstasy and why? it's not like a roofie...

candyflippin
candyflippin

I attend electric festivals yearly, I see people overdose every time I go. It's truly sad, these individuals have no self control in consumption of illicit substances. Any wise adult can tell you every thing in moderation is possible. I couldn't agree more. Over 7 years of festivals attended annually and I never felt bad once, however I always test my products with testing kits before consuming because I don't put unknowns into my body. Mr.Morales did not have good friends, and in my beliefs and what I witnessed throughout the years, Morales probably did not have self control or the proper respect that needs to be given when experimenting with illicit substances. Maybe if he had a few drinks and smoked a nice joint instead of popping untested and unidentified pills, Morales would be here with us today. Nothing wrong with taking a pill and keeping hydrated to enjoy a festival, but when you treat the damn things like skittles and try to act like a Superman by popping more, its only a matter of time before the body shuts down. I have way more fun these days munching on a handful of magic mushrooms at one of these festivals, no dehydration, no body temperature increases, no holes in the brain, magic mushrooms > pills any day. My condolences to the Morales family, sadly Mr. Morales is the culprit in ultimate responsibility, followed closely by the friends who chose to abandon him. I'd never leave a drugged friend who feels bad alone. Then again, my friends all understand their limits and are as moderate as I am. No need to get inebriated when just a dab will do you in. No need to blame the festivals, they are cleverly designed legitimate businesses. They are way safer than any hip pop club or event with all the concealed armed gangsters and gangs attending them. Raves are peace gatherings, and rarely do the bad apples go there. By the way, I just found out about Morales, only reason why I decided to post.

Edcinfo
Edcinfo

You have the right to sue edc. They have liability insurance and make plenty of money. They won't be shut down,.so use the money to share knowledge on drugs. Drugs are for flying idiots but I am part of that . I will never endorse drugs . It does make you paranoid and shamelessly stupid.on compassion and logic. Long term effects are bad and loss of memory confidence. My final.word of..advice is take.half and another half hours later if I have too.

John
John

Darwinism...

Jesse's friend's mom
Jesse's friend's mom

soooo.... obviously you won't be on this earth very long since you apparently don't have any brain cells.

Jalen Ramirez gonzales morales
Jalen Ramirez gonzales morales

its true he was the best uncle and everybody will suffer one day! but it happens. he was memory to everbody he made everybody laugh and support his friends and familia. he life we move on in heaven we bless him in all our heart!love u jesse and miss u tio 

sincerly Jalen RamirezGonzales

HakkaiXcho
HakkaiXcho

i think the point people are trying to make, is drugs are bad for you. don't tell people to stop going to raves or try to close down edc. if you really wanna make a difference for the young people your worried about. do something to get them educated. im sorry for your loss but if he had taking the same drugs anywhere else would u blame his school,disneyland,mexico. the blame should be on him for taking them and his friends for not helping. yes edc can hire more first aid staff. they do give free water. there are websites online that educate people for this and identify drugs to know which are safe and which aren't. don't even start saying drugs are bad because u can look in your medicine cabinet and be a hypocrite. yes its bad to take for pleasure rather then medical reasons but drugs are drugs and u have taken them. just like some precriptions say take with food and water and don't operarate machinery or stay out of direct sunlight, illegal drugs work the same way as far as things you should and shouldn't do.

Jesse's friend's mom
Jesse's friend's mom

  In response:

I did not say the raves need to be shut down.  I stated that there needs to be more police patrol per ratio of people in attendance -  and especially extra patrol on the grounds around the concerts ; less bodies crammed  in an area

I did also state that we need more education on the topic of these event - meaning what goes on at them - drugs, patrol, overcrowding, heat, pricing on water and availability, etc.... 

I don't have to worry about my son going back - watching his friend die and attending his funeral was enough.

But mostly, I want to let those know on this blog who have shown compassion for another human being that you give us hope for this country.

Jesse's friend's mom
Jesse's friend's mom

Jesse Morales was our sons, brothers, cousins, friends - he was the epitomy of a good decent young college student who had a promising future and cared about people.  Yes, he made a bad choice that young people can get caught up in at an event that packs humans like concentration camp victims in extremely tight spaces, all the while music is being piped in.  I am a mom of one of his friends. I was completely horrified when this tragedy occured.  I, too, was like most citizens, completely unaware of the dangers of such an event.   I will not stand idly by and read these horrible, inhuman comments about a wonderful young man who had a lot to offer the world.  Those that have written indifferent comments and derogatory comments must surely have a hard time looking yourself in the mirror every day.  WHERE is your compassion?  WHERE  is humanity that separates us from animals?  The event SHOULD be held accountable for insufficient patrol of an area that has thousands of young people paying top money for such an event.  The event lends itself to people getting physically separated from each other by undulating waves from the sea of people.  And how can you keep an event safely cooled due to the body heat emitted from the THOUSANDS of bodies crammed in a tight space?  I DO think we will see events such as these held accountable as the death toll rises whether the deaths are directly or indirectly related to heat. Where is CNN, Nancy Grace, Oprah- we need your help! America needs education on this topic. I think of this wonderful, compassionate young man often, Jesse Morales, that did leave  compassionate footprints on this earth.  I implore those of you who obviously have never experienced the joy and miracle of holding your newborn child in your arms to refrain from negative comments until you have had a chance to experience life's most precious gift. And then, when you have raised that precious baby to adulthood, then you have the ability to voice your opinion on the value of one's life.

Zing
Zing

Sucks when this kind of thing happens. I went to real RAVES back in the 90's and from what I can tell you about this kind of corporate fake rave event, is that INSOMNIAC is 50% to blame. They know what people are doing, they know it's going to be 100+ degrees,  and they know how to make it safer. FREE WATER is not too much to ask for to keep people alive and safe. Screw insomnic for $4.00 bottles of water and screw them for making quick buck over safety. PEOPLE OVER PROFIT!!  What about P.L.U.R? DUMB FAKE RAVVERS! Back in the day it was about love and respect and the other people there should have been stopping to help that guy. Dumb fake ravers...

Morales1369
Morales1369

Anyway all assos disrespecting f-you! We only making it clear that my cousin could have been saved if someone helped him when he was lying on the floor. Not just walk past him. I heard there are all types of drunks laying on the floor and you guys just pick them up and move them to the side of the st. How dare you come on this page posting up some shit like that. Jesse made his own decision and a bad one that we suffer with everyday! We just want people to be aware and be careful... 15 min of fame!? You serious asso!? I'm so damn sure. Fame for what!!!!? My cousins death!? Your an idiot! Theres no fame in that! We just wanted to spread the word cause we care and want people to be aware of what happen and what could happen. So you selfish idiots that have nothing to do with your time besides post some disrespectful shiit like that. Go fuck yourself assos!

Love you always and forever primo! Rip

Edcinfo
Edcinfo

Sue edc , they have liabiality insurance. You have statutes of limitations. Use money to share knowledge.

Hmmorales
Hmmorales

It amazes me that none of you criticizing his choice and supporting the event haven't picked up on the most obvious of things, how about the disregard for the life of a fellow human-being! Over 10,000 in attendance and not one call for help! I hope if one of you is in need of help someday that the same people that walked by jesse's lifeless body don't walk by yours!

I_give_up
I_give_up

So, here is the thing. You could put me in the safest environment imaginable....It could be padded walls, surrounded by doctors, breathing in pure oxygen while dining on the finest meats and cheeses......but if I WANT to act retarded, I will find a way to die, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. 

DUDE
DUDE

ALL I HAVE TO SAY, IS THAT I'VE BEEN TO THE WHOLE "RAVE" SCENE AND WHAT NOT. IT WAS AN EXPERIENCE, AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST I HAD FUN EACH AND EVERY TIME! NO ONE FORCED ANY DRUGS ON ME! I CHOSE TO TAKE THEM AND THANKFULLY I AM STILL HERE! THERE IS A RISK IN EVERYTHING IN LIFE. I AM OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS AND THAT IS WHAT I DID! I DID NOT CHOOSE TO TAKE DRUGS EACH AND EVERY TIME THAT I WENT, BUT I DID! AND THE POINT I WANT TO GET ACROSS IS THAT DECISIONS ARE MADE EACH AND EVERYDAY THAT INCLUDE RISKS. PUTTING BLAME ON THE CARNIVAL OR PROMOTERS AND WHAT NOT IS FAR FROM THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THIS SHOULD JUST BE A LIVE AND LEARN EXPERIENCE THAT I PERSONALLY USE IN MY LIFE. I HAVE DEEP SYMPATHY FOR THE LOSSES THESE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS WENT THROUGH. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO POINT THE FINGER AT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ELECTRONIC MUSIC SCENE.. 

Malzm1
Malzm1

We are not blaming the EDC for Jesse taking drugs, that was his poor choice but the fact that he laid lifeless on the floor with no help from anyone does hold them liable! His life may have been saved had security, paramedics, fellow concert goer, EDC worker helped him instead of ignoring him! They say they have the carnival overstaffed but no one was around to possibly save a life-that is the argument, not the fact he took the drugs!

Craig
Craig

Somebody tell these gumbas to hold this event in January. 

Paco Jamal Warner
Paco Jamal Warner

I don't want to sound like my grandpa, but who the fuck still goes to raves? I thought we all agreed they sucked back in the late '90s.

Travis Brooks
Travis Brooks

Haha you do sound like a grandpa... Have you been living under a rock for the past several years?

P.L.U.R.
P.L.U.R.

People who attend these events make their own choices,not the venues,true.EDC can't be blamed for unresponsible choices.But let's be fair tho very stereotypical we all know that a lot people at these EDM events are on psychoactive drugs...at least more than other musical event.People don't have to do drugs to feel the music but it is a big part of it.What makes me upset is where is the P.L.U.R in all this?Why was Jesse alone,laying in an open area?where were his friends,or at least a stranger to help him out?!...Responsability not just for you but a fellow raver.At least give the families some closure by acknowleging the dangers of rolling and hopefully EDC Vegas won't have such outcomes.

Masane Deviant Artist
Masane Deviant Artist

This event is not about drugs also the venue is for 18 and up only. All concerts are going to have some sort of drug, its not the venue selling them its the patrons who bring it there. That is the true story. He made a bad decision.

Derek Swift Cousemaker
Derek Swift Cousemaker

I can't believe some of you are trying to stop these events, saying they cause deaths. People die from doing drugs. It's sad but true. Drugs can be found anywhere, not just these raves. At any type of concert. Also, shame on his friends for letting him wander off in that state. We need to watch each other so these things stop bringing heat on our shows.

Masane Deviant Artist
Masane Deviant Artist

Well said!! People are so ignorant. They make the choices not the venue. So many sneak in drugs or take prior before going in to avoid being caught with them on their person. Learn the real story ..

carmela (r.i.p jesse morales0
carmela (r.i.p jesse morales0

it doesnt matte if they had water or not we r talkn about young people dying over this raving shit it has to stop how many more lives have to get taking away for people to know that raving is wrong... plus my brother had every right to live just like everyone else does on this world,, and hopefully for those of u talkn shit on here it dont happen to u or a family member cuz i guarantee u,, u would be doin the samthing trying to let word come out to help close EDC down for other young peoples lives and sake.. haterz go to hell!!!! we do wat we gotta do!! love u jesse sincerly <3 mela<3

HakkaiXcho
HakkaiXcho

i think the point people are trying to make, is drugs are bad for you. don't tell people to stop going to raves or try to close down edc. if you really wanna make a difference for the young people your worried about. do something to get them educated. im sorry for your loss but if he had taking the same drugs anywhere else would u blame his school,disneyland,mexico. the blame should be on him for taking them and his friends for not helping. yes edc can hire more first aid staff. they do give free water. there are websites online that educate people for this and identify drugs to know which are safe and which aren't. don't even start saying drugs are bad because u can look in your medicine cabinet and be a hypocrite. yes its bad to take for pleasure rather then medical reasons but drugs are drugs and u have taken them. just like some precriptions say take with food and water and don't operarate machinery or stay out of direct sunlight, illegal drugs work the same way as far as things you should and shouldn't do.

Lucy Furr
Lucy Furr

Then we should completely ban all Spring Break celebrations and close and destroy all theme parks and water parks while we're at it.  Oh, and no more swimming at the beach ever again.  How many more people have to die at Disneyland before you realize it's wrong?We will not sit idly by as your scapegoats at your misdirected anger.  Blame the person responsible.  Hint: it isn't us sober music-lovers.

Masane Deviant Artist
Masane Deviant Artist

The event was for 18 and older they are adults sorry to burst your bubble. But he took the choice and now that is what happened. It is not EDC fault. They will never close down the venue, if you do that might as well close down all concerts, ect.  It's called common sense dear.

Morales_riz
Morales_riz

Fuckin smart asses my brother died it's no joke anything could happen no matter what the circumstances you dumb asses!

Lucy Furr
Lucy Furr

Perhaps so, but we sober music-lovers and musicians are not going to stand idly by as we are made into your scapegoats.  Your brother chose to take drugs.  I am sorry for your loss but we are not going to suffer for his decisions when we did everything possible to make it not happen.  Ample adequate security, as strict as possible, free water everywhere, security and medics everywhere.  These events are statistically safer than Spring Break and even safer than Disneyland.

joanjett19
joanjett19

If I were to go to EDC and slit my wrists or shoot myself in the head while sober should EDC be held responsible?

Morales1369
Morales1369

You are a fuCkn idiot! Go do that! I'd Loooove to watCh!

Malzm1
Malzm1

Jim Roberts you are a very ignorant person.......good luck to you in life cause you will need it!

Cride540
Cride540

Everything was accessible in both 2010 and 2011. I never once waited for water, restroom and noticed security everywhere. It is very very sad, but yes young adults will make poor choices. If they don’t have this safe place that provides all of these amenities they will go somewhere else. That somewhere else will be far away from, water, security, hospitals and other of these amenities that are provided. My heart goes out to the families. There will be a lot more of these broken families if the youth find hidden and more dangerous places to hold these events. I just hope that event holders can get better and promote better decisions. One thing that could improve is having very visible and accessible first aid stations. I have been to events like these in other countries and they have cool down stations and several first aid stations that are very accessible. Safety should always be first. My prayers are with those family members. Very sorry for your loss.

Cride540
Cride540

Everything was accessible in both 2010 and 2011. I never once waited for water, restroom and noticed security everywhere. It is very very sad, but yes young adults will make poor choices. If they don’t have this safe place that provides all of these amenities they will go somewhere else. That somewhere else will be far away from, water, security, hospitals and other of these amenities that are provided. My heart goes out to the families. There will be a lot more of these broken families if the youth find hidden and more dangerous places to hold these events. I just hope that event holders can get better and promote better decisions. One thing that could improve is having very visible and accessible first aid stations. I have been to events like these in other countries and they have cool down stations and several first aid stations that are very accessible. Safety should always be first. My prayers are with those family members. Very sorry for your lose.

Cride540
Cride540

Everything was accessible in both 2010 and 2011. I never once waited for water, restroom and noticed security everywhere. It is very very sad, but yes young adults will make poor choices. If they don’t have this safe place that provides all of these amenities they will go somewhere else. That somewhere else will be far away from, water, security, hospitals and other of these amenities that are provided. My heart goes out to the families. There will be a lot more of these broken families if the youth find hidden and more dangerous places to hold these events. I just hope that event holders can get better and promote better decisions. One thing that could improve is having very visible and accessible first aid stations. I have been to events like these in other countries and they have cool down stations and several first aid stations that are very accessible. Safety should always be first. My prayers are with those family members. Very sorry for your lose.

Jimroberts33
Jimroberts33

Everyone is trying to get their 15 minutes of fame after the death at this years EDC. The promoters, music, and festival are not to blame. Interesting how there have been 10 deaths since 2002 at Bonnaroo but has anyone heard anything about them, no.

Malzm1
Malzm1

We are not trying to gain fame by the death of our family member! We want the EDC to be aware that deaths are occurring at their events and maybe they should do something about it! This should not have been shoved under the rug a year ago!!

Lucy Furr
Lucy Furr

The people that should take responsibility are the ones that did the drugs.  Sadly, in cases like these, those people can't take responsibility so the survivors must suffer unjustly.  He wasn't drugged.  Those drugs have a very strong taste and you can't sneak them to people without their knowing.  He took more than one.  You can't die from one.  You obviously don't know what these events are about if you claim they're all about drugs.  I've been going to about 50 a year for over a decade and I don't do drugs at all, even smoke cigarettes.  And I'm not alone.  Far from it.  We rode in a caravan of sober people.  I met many sober people there.  Statistically, Spring Break is much more deadly than these all-year events.  Hell, Disneyland is more dangerous!  Should we attack and ban those as well?  I also found more drugs and dealers in my high school than ever at any concert of any genre of music.  We've all lost people close to us.  You lost one to a drug overdose.  It happened to be at an EDM event.  Blame the person that took the drugs, not the sober music-lovers and musicians who are tired of your misdirected blame.  We are sorry for your loss but we are not your scapegoat.

Tiney
Tiney

great story btw

Tiney
Tiney

"The thing that is disturbing is that there's all these young kids that are going to these raves and getting into situations that they're not prepared for with all this stuff around them." That is true but it only speaks to about 0.9% of the people who actually attend. In my opinion, I don't understand how you cannot feel yourself dying. Drink water people and be responsible. I doubt the ecstasy he took was laced, he probably just took too much. Where's your head at?

Caleb
Caleb

Its all about personal choice. I go to raves and I was there. I don't do x, or anything else for that matter. Stfu, and stop trying to blame the festival for your childs bad decisions. Yes its sad and I can understand that. But seriously, I saw more drugs in the hallway of my high-school than I did Saturday night. It's everywhere, hope your kid makes good choices, and live with it.

Kujayhawksmelita
Kujayhawksmelita

u stfu u guys r a bunch of low lives who dont like to take responsibility over actions like this how many more deaths have to come down on this and thats wat raves all about party and fuqn drugs and just because u didnt loose a family member over this shit u wouldnt know how it feels

Lucy Furr
Lucy Furr

The people that should take responsibility are the ones that did the drugs.  Sadly, in cases like these, those people can't take responsibility so the survivors must suffer unjustly.  He wasn't drugged.  Those drugs have a very strong taste and you can't sneak them to people without their knowing.  He took more than one.  You can't die from one.  You obviously don't know what these events are about if you claim they're all about drugs.  I've been going to about 50 a year for over a decade and I don't do drugs at all, even smoke cigarettes.  And I'm not alone.  Far from it.  We rode in a caravan of sober people.  I met many sober people there.  Statistically, Spring Break is much more deadly than these all-year events.  Hell, Disneyland is more dangerous!  Should we attack and ban those as well?  I also found more drugs and dealers in my high school than ever at any concert of any genre of music.  So don't claim just because you know someone that died that makes you an expert.  We've all lost people close to us.  You lost one to a drug overdose.  It happened to be at an EDM event.  Blame the person that took the drugs, not the sober music-lovers and musicians who are tired of your misdirected blame.  We are not your scapegoat.

Travis Brooks
Travis Brooks

I take plenty of responsibility for my own actions.  I do not, however, take responsibility for your brother taking the drugs that killed him - and no one else should either.  In the end, it was his choice.  Like it or not. 

Masane Deviant Artist
Masane Deviant Artist

Um I have been to many raves and it's not all about drugs. Given to your writing either your on drugs right now or a youngster that doesn't know squat

Guest
Guest

well, his friends drugged him. dont say anything unless you dont know

Travis Brooks
Travis Brooks

So according to what you said you don't know either, as you said something.

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