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Is The Prophet Bar Backsliding? Potentially! Or So Says New Part-Time Booking Agent

Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 05:19:08 PM
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Just got off the horn with area bartender and musician Stephen Benavides a little bit ago, and he had some interesting news to share: Seems Russell Hobbs has brought him into the fold to help book some shows to the Prophet Bar, the alcohol-serving extension of the The Door down in Deep Ellum (y'know, the one housed in the old Gypsy Tea Room spot).

Anyway, Benavides, who most recently worked as a bartender and part-time booking agent for the now-closed Lucky's Roadhouse on Lower Greenville, says he's been asked to do what he can to change the Prophet Bar's squeaky-clean, The Door-tainted image.

"They're trying to do--I'm not gonna say less Christian shows, but they're gonna move those," he says.

With Hobb's The Door franchise now expanded out to a jaw-dropping four North Texas locations (Dallas, Ft. Worth, Canton and the just-opened Plano location), Benavides says most of the youth-oriented, suburban teen-aimed Christian rock shows that The Door hosts will be moved to the new Plano spot (which I'm sure has these guys just super-stoked). And, if that's right, that will open up the bigger room at The Door to more Prophet Bar shows.

(This gets a bit confusing, so let me explain: The Door is an all-ages, alcohol-free venue. The Prophet Bar is a venue that sometimes houses all-ages shows, but always serves liquor to those of legal drinking age. From time to time, The Prophet Bar is able to move its shows to The Door's stage when its available. Such a move allows for a bigger crowd and, yes, for alcohol to be served in The Door's room. Those shows, however, are not, well, at least from management's standpoint, considered Door shows; they're just Prophet Bar shows held in The Door's space. Got it? Good. Moving on...)

As I see it, The Prophet Bar's always been pretty secular. (OK, aside from The Door's affiliation with it). It does a decent job booking non-Christian-affiliated bands as is, and every now and then is able to bring a decidedly non-Christian touring act to The Door's bigger room (as it did back in March when Muslim albino rapper Brother Ali played there). Still, bringing in Benavides (who, granted, is a bit of a no-name) is an interesting move.

Says Benavides of the rules that will apply to the bands he'll be booking: "If they wanna cuss or do things like that on stage, it's no problem."

Not that as much ever was a problem at the Prophet Bar, but, again, I digress. If The Prophet Bar really is trying to change its image as a Christian venue, it might want to look into another option. Like say, changing its name from The Prophet Bar.

But what do I know, I'm Jewish.

Local acts interested in playing The Door can contact Benavides here. --Pete Freedman

Category: Music News

6 Comments:

dtc says:

i wont buy it until they start booking black metal.

Liles says:

The original Prophet Bar on Commerce Street was actually called that well before Russ Hobbs ever turned to Christianity.

The word "Prophet" wasn't even a nod to Jesus Christ, but to all of the "prophets" (his word) who performed in the neighborhood at the time: Rev. Horton Heat, HR from Bad Brains, Alex Moore and the Legendary Revelations, Shallow Reign, Gibby Haynes from Butthole Surfers, Screamin' Jay Hawkins... people like that.

Russ honestly thought that these people were subversive visionaries. The name made perfect sense at the time.

I actually like the fact that Russ has renamed that space on Elm Street after the original Prophet Bar. In a way, it's a good metaphor for his own path coming full circle.

It's a great little room. Hopefully he can recapture the essence of the old Prophet Bar. The neighborhood really needs it.

anonymous says:

I played at the Prophet Bar about a month or two ago, and while I didn't really expect to enjoy it, it was one of the better venues I've played in recent months. In fact, I'll soon be playing on one of these relatively-confusing "Prophet Bar in the Ballroom" shows.

Either way, it's nice to see strides being made to return the Tearoom/Ballroom into semi-relevant venues rather than just a larger stage for The Door and the (by-and-large) uninteresting shows they book.

And, without trying to stir up much trouble, any change to the former-Rock Steady (now The Door Plano) will be a positive one. The previous owner made no effort to book interesting bands, have working equipment, or generally do much more than play computer solitaire. I dare say that the pop-punk and metalcore loving kids of Plano deserve better, so hopefully Hobbs can provide that.

Local Music Lover! says:


I'm not so sure the Prophet Bar booking non-Christian shows is really a new thing.
The Murder Junkies played there not too long ago and GBH is booked to play very soon.
Both bands are far from Christian acts.

Also, I'm not certain hiring a bartender from a Lower Greenville meat market is really the best way to tap into some great shows. I would expect many more "pay to play" shows with a few decent headliners here and there. The sad thing about the larger shows is that the most radio friendly "battle of the bands" types will be the ones to get the opening spots.

Good thing we still have fun shows being booked my Da Da and Bar of Soap and even Reno's!

Matt says:

This is great news.

The Door (in Deep Ellum) is a great venue. But unfortunately, due to the type of bands it normally books, it has been ignored by those that can actually bring $$ to a venue– the 'over 21' crowd.

A venue with that much potential shouldn't be wasted on high school garage bands posing as "Christian acts" just to get the opportunity to play on a huge stage with their botox injected moms working their merch booths... which is the impression I've gotten the 2-3 times I've been there.

I always thought it was kind of silly that one of the largest music venues in deep ellum was a 'Christian' , 'all-ages' venue.

I agree. Keep that stuff in Plano! It makes a lot more sense. Besides... we don't want the good Prestonwoodians of the burbs to be corrupted by the EE-vils of Deep Ellum anyway, now do we?

Their pastors can handle that.

Back sliding is a term for negative actions of the sort which does not apply to the addition of "non Christian" shows at the Prophet Bar. These types of shows which include local headliners as well as regional and national acts have been a part of this venue and the slight lapse in coverage has been noted. Enter Stephen Benavides.
When I think of a no name I think someone who has zero experince and might have very little idea of the "booking" market. This term does not include an 8year clasically trained musician that has headlined most of Dallas venues in years past and has personal contacts with local headliners as well connections with national agents.

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