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By Pete Freedman, Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 4:08PM
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jonny.jpg
Jonny Greenwood last night at Starplex. (Michael Insuaste)

My checking account is empty. My ears are still ringing. My stomach and head are arguing over who’s in more pain from last night’s excesses.

But if Radiohead were playing anywhere within a five-hour drive tonight, I’d seriously consider applying for a new credit card to buy tickets. I don’t even want to think about what my wife might do for them.

Saturday’s show was our third time to see Radiohead at the lovely The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion near Houston in The Woodlands, and our fourth time seeing them overall. As always, the World’s Greatest Band put on an incandescent show--even without incandescent lighting, as they’ve opted for earth-friendlier LED arrays on this tour. Every moment was perfect, from the jittery opening “15 Step” to the insane electronic improvisation on “The Gloaming” to Thom Yorke’s spastic dancing during “Idioteque,” which closed the second and final encore set. The show lasted a generous 24 songs and was completely satisfying. And yet, we still wanted more.

During the drive back to Dallas on Sunday, we tried to talk ourselves out of the previous night’s economically foolhardy idea of buying tickets from a scalper. We simply couldn’t afford it. And yet, like a couple of helpless addicts, there we were at 7 p.m., cruising Fitzhugh Avenue with a pocketful of 20 dollar bills, neither of us willing to be the voice of reason.

Merritt Martin did a great job of describing yesterday’s Radiohead show with her “Last Night” entry. But how did it stack up to the previous day’s show?

Venue
There are few areas in which the Woodlands Pavilion doesn’t kick Starplex’s ass. The Houston venue had better sound, a better view of the stage, prettier scenery and, well, the parking is free. It even edges the ‘Plex out with concessions quality and pricing--$10 got you a 24-oz. import beer at the Woodlands, whereas a 24-oz. can of Coors Light ran $11 in Dallas. However, the security personnel at the Pavilion were considerably more intrusive. Every concertgoer had to empty the contents of their pockets for examination before entering, and the guards aggressively paced the aisles looking for pot smokers.
Advantage: Houston, by far.

Audience
As Merritt already pointed out, a small but loud percentage of the Dallas crowd was compelled to dash any quiet moments with hoots and hollers. It happened in Houston, too, but wasn’t nearly as noticeable. Another difference was that people in Dallas sang along far more. I’m probably in the minority in that I enjoy being part of an active audience, one that sings along and even gives a well-timed “Woo!” But--note to the dude standing behind me in Dallas--don’t sing along if you don’t know the words. There’s nothing about a “Fake plastic watering tree” in “Fake Plastic Trees,” and that nonexistent line is most certainly not repeated for the entire song.
Advantage: Houston.

Performance
Both shows were phenomenal, with no weak moments. Jonny’s multi-instrumental greatness was as entertaining as ever, and Phil and Colin sounded like one of the most confident, powerful rhythm sections in the world. Both performances relied heavily on In Rainbows material, which I was all for. Then again, I think everything Radiohead has done from The Bends on has been great at worst, with “wonderful,” “amazing” and “perfect” as my more common descriptors. So I’m not exactly a tough critic when it comes to these guys. That said, I’ll pick the Dallas show as the better of the two performances. The Woodlands crowd was treated to great versions of “The Gloaming” and “Street Spirit (Fade Out),” and Thom’s hilarious camera work on “You and Whose Army” was far more entertaining the first time. But, overall, Dallas--their last date on this U.S. leg of their tour--got a better set, with epic performances of “The Bends” and “Paranoid Android” to cap a beautiful night.
Advantage: Dallas, barely.

Verdict: The Dallas show was better than I expected it to be, but if I had to pick, I'd take The Woodlands every time. --Jesse Hughey

I found these set lists on a fan site, and if memory serves correctly, they’re accurate.

Woodlands set list
Set 1:
1. 15 Step
2. Bodysnatchers
3. Lucky
4. Morning Bell
5. Nude
6. Pyramid Song
7. Weird Fishes/Apeggi
8. The Gloaming
9. National Anthem
10. Faust Arp
11. Videotape
12. Optimistic
13. Where I End and You Begin
14. Reckoner
15. Everything in Its Right Place
16. All I Need
17. There There

Encore 1:
18. Jigsaw Falling Into Place
19. House of Cards
20. Climbing Up The Walls
21. Planet Telex
22. Street Spirit (Fade Out)

Encore 2:
23. You And Whose Army?
24. Idioteque

Dallas set list
01. All I Need
02. There There
03. 15 Step
04. Bangers and Mash
05. Nude
06. Pyramid Song
07. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
08. The National Anthem
09. Dollars and Cents
10. Faust Arp
11. Videotape
12. A Wolf At The Door
13. Optimistic
14. Reckoner
15. Everything In Its Right Place
16. Idioteque
17. Bodysnatchers

Encore 1:
18. Fake Plastic Trees
19. Jigsaw Falling Into Place
20. House of Cards
21. Exit Music (For A Film)
22. The Bends

Encore 2:
23. You And Whose Army?
24. Paranoid Android

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Anonymous says:

FUCKING STOP!!!! We get it. The Observer loves Radiohead. How many more posts about this boring overrated band do we have to endure? They make boring white people think that they are listening to something experimental and artistic.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 4:28PM
Anonymous says:

If someone just started reading this blog two weeks ago, he or she might think the sole purpose of it is to write about the Old 97s, Mount Righteous, and Radiohead.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 4:40PM
Pete Freedman says:

Let's see...15 combined posts on those three bands (including Good Fridays and Playbacks)...out of 87 total in the past two weeks...

...carry the two...

That's a whopping 17 percent dedicated to two bands in the news and one who's participating in a new feature of ours.

Shocking, I know.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 4:53PM
billie says:

I was at both, and I enjoyed Dallas more. The Woodlands is pretty and all, and the parking was free, but the crowd was a bit more alive in Dallas...definitely louder between encores. I loved both set lists, but the Dallas show just seemed to have more energy. I sang along more in Houston, while in Dallas I was mostly staring in awe!

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 5:01PM
Anonymous says:

Pete shut up and read this again:

Pete, first of all, let's lose the term "local music".

For the longest time, the word "local" has been code to describe musical acts who will never amount to anything but existing as a regional curiosity. Dozens of our artists have gone on to sell literally millions of CDs and many of them have toured all over the world. The word "local" is not only redundant and beneath them, it cheapens their achievements and reduces the perception of our collective music community as insignificant. Local bands play at restaurants and high school proms. Our recording artists play all over the world. (When Erykah Badu gets back from her tour of Russia, I dare you to call her a "local" artist to her face.)

Next, let's drop the pretense and just tell it like it is. You are a 23-year-old kid from Colorado. You aren't teaching us anything about our music community that we don't already know. More accurately, we've taught you everything that you now know. It's a ridiculous dynamic, and the result, as evidenced in the current issue, is that other more experienced writers like Robert Wilonsky are now having to contribute more material in an obvious effort to re-establish credibility to the music section of the paper.

Third, lose the territorial pissing. No one cares if you happen to think that you were the first to write about anything, because we all know you haven't been here long enough to speak with any measure of historical perspective or authority. If you were the "first" to write about anything, it's only because you were the first to cut-and-paste it from somewhere else.

The "critique" of Quick's Award Show was pathetic. If it was really as pointless as you reported, why was it even worth writing about? Awards exist for one reason - so the sponsor can lay some claim to being the "official" voice of authority for that particular branch of the creative community. The Dallas Observer sacrificed that credibility when they hired a kid from out of town to be the music editor. By writing so pithily about the Quick Awards Show, you inadvertently validated their efforts and exposed your paper as feeling threatened by their existence.

All of this taken into consideration, perhaps it is more appropriate to lay the blame at the feet of the Observer's parent company Village Voice Media, which somehow came to the rather insulting conclusion that the paper was better off with an inexperienced outsider as the music editor, rather than promoting one of the many talented music writers who are already on staff. What is it, exactly, that you bring to the table that isn't already available from one of the other writers? And what did it do to morale around the office when these other, more deserving reporters were bypassed for promotion in light of your hiring? They aren't "your" writers - they were here long before you were.

If you are seriously committed to hanging around as the music editor of the Dallas Observer, then stop cut-and-pasting everything and start doing some actual research. That means asking real questions - not making vapid declarations based on information that you've gathered from other published sources.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 5:24PM
brett says:

sounds like somebody applied for the music editor position and didnt get a call back....

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 5:36PM
JC says:

Hey anonymous - suck it.

I was at both shows and I have yet to pick a favorite. I loved Climbing Up The Walls and Street Spirit in Houston, but Wolf At The Door, Dollars and Cents, and Exit Music in Dallas pwned too. Lights seemed more impressive in Houston, it looked like maybe they were on the fritz last night? Security in Houston sucked balls. They made me check my camera. Dallas let me in after a quick look in my bag. I think one's impression of an audience is very subjective and variable depending on location. If there's only one douche anywhere in the vicinity it can ruin things for you, while people in the next section might have great neighbors. I think Dallas suffered from a higher douche quotient overall.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 6:26PM
Merritt says:

JC, "douche quotient" is my new favorite term.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 6:35PM
Mikal says:

I, like Merritt, have had a deep and lasting love affair with Radiohead. Getting to see them both nights was magical. I enjoyed the different sets and the light show was wicked. They have to be the most charmed people on earth. They are incapable of making bad music. And no, Jesse does not want to know what I'd do for more tickets.

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 8:03PM
Erich says:

OK, I didn't go to the Houston show but I've read a few posts and comments about the Dallas light show being on the "fritz." I was at the Dallas show and noticed nothing but one of the most innovative concert lighting setups I've ever seen. I was dazzled. Anybody with more details on the diff between the venues?

I was exhausted before I set foot in Starplex (ahem -- excuse me, Superpages.com) and probably didn't enjoy it as much as I would've otherwise but I think a Radiohead show in Dallas is worth covering on the Observer's music blog, so to whomever is posting as "anonymous" -- suck it -- or at least tell us your real name. If you don't want to read about Radiohead (or Mount Righteous) then don't click on the friggin' link, ya Turkey!

And oh yeah, douchbag city at the Star-(grrr...back off)plex Sunday night. I actually find a little comfort in knowing that these dudes were being exposed to some decent tunes for probably the first time in their lives.

Too soon? Too soon?

Posted On: Monday, May. 19 2008 @ 11:30PM
JC says:

Erich,

My initial impression was that the lights didn't seem as bright in Dallas. I haven't seen anyone else say this though, so I'm starting to wonder if maybe it was a function of where I was standing for each show? I also saw the show in Bristow VA and the lights seemed brighter there too. As far as where I was for each show, Bristow=lawn (yes, it was miserable), Houston=left side row P, Dallas=pit. I can post some Houston photos on my flickr account when I get home tonight for comparison.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 20 2008 @ 8:47AM
JC says:

Here's something that maybe lends credence to the location theory of why the lights looked different to me: The lights used are apparently LEDs. LED light is very directional. It is very bright if you are in the direct path of it, but not if you are out of that light path. So maybe I was too close for the lights to look their best?

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 20 2008 @ 12:54PM
blown away says:

went to both shows..... didn't notice anything about the lights. I was Left row Y at Houston and Lawn in Dallas.... though was able to see half of the show in the pit.

If you've seen a better show in Dallas in the last 2 decades I would have a hard time believing you. Give me anyone... U2, GnR, Pink Floyd....

I haven't seen a band at this level live - ever.

Too bad they probably won't be here for another decade because of the 5% douchbag factor which was way more evident in Dallas than in Houston. If I recall correctly, didn't Thom get something thrown at him the last time they were in Dallas on the OK.C tour?

Posted On: Wednesday, May. 21 2008 @ 2:38AM

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